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Postby Kash Island » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:06 pm

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It's not dickish or a tone

it's reality, your touting what is basically an "antifa" group, very radical and marxist

what would the fruits of this conversation lead to? you calling me a fascist?


Let's be adults and honest, are we really going to have a good conversation when you tout "redneck revolt"

That was a pretty dickish thing to say.
You just ain't willing to have a mature discussion with me because I support Redneck Revolt.

Also, I would only call you a fascist if I truly believed you to be a fascist.
Fascist ain't a term I just throw around and use to describe people because I just don't agree with them.


oh my god fine, I will entertain you

"Police, prisons, courts, artificial borders, and other systems of social control only exist to serve the rich."

that's why we won't have a good conversation, yes that's from Redneck Revolt.
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Postby Valgora » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:10 pm

Kash Island wrote:
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That was a pretty dickish thing to say.
You just ain't willing to have a mature discussion with me because I support Redneck Revolt.

Also, I would only call you a fascist if I truly believed you to be a fascist.
Fascist ain't a term I just throw around and use to describe people because I just don't agree with them.


oh my god fine, I will entertain you

"Police, prisons, courts, artificial borders, and other systems of social control only exist to serve the rich."

that's why we won't have a good conversation, yes that's from Redneck Revolt.

That doesn't change the fact that you believe we can't have a mature discussion on something like sanctuary cities just because I support Redneck Revolt.

Saying something like "we can't have a good, mature conversation because you support a leftist group" is immature and dickish.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:12 pm

Kash Island wrote:
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That was a pretty dickish thing to say.
You just ain't willing to have a mature discussion with me because I support Redneck Revolt.

Also, I would only call you a fascist if I truly believed you to be a fascist.
Fascist ain't a term I just throw around and use to describe people because I just don't agree with them.


oh my god fine, I will entertain you

"Police, prisons, courts, artificial borders, and other systems of social control only exist to serve the rich."

that's why we won't have a good conversation, yes that's from Redneck Revolt.

The fuck any of this has to do with the Mueller investigation?
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Postby Kash Island » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:12 pm

Valgora wrote:
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oh my god fine, I will entertain you

"Police, prisons, courts, artificial borders, and other systems of social control only exist to serve the rich."

that's why we won't have a good conversation, yes that's from Redneck Revolt.

That doesn't change the fact that you believe we can't have a mature discussion on something like sanctuary cities just because I support Redneck Revolt.

Saying something like "we can't have a good, mature conversation because you support a leftist group" is immature and dickish.


"leftist group" is a understatment, a radical Marxist group who would very likely kill me if they gained power.
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Postby Kash Island » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:13 pm

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oh my god fine, I will entertain you

"Police, prisons, courts, artificial borders, and other systems of social control only exist to serve the rich."

that's why we won't have a good conversation, yes that's from Redneck Revolt.

The fuck any of this has to do with the Mueller investigation?


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Postby Valgora » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:14 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Valgora wrote:That doesn't change the fact that you believe we can't have a mature discussion on something like sanctuary cities just because I support Redneck Revolt.

Saying something like "we can't have a good, mature conversation because you support a leftist group" is immature and dickish.


"leftist group" is a understatment, a radical Marxist group who would very likely kill me if they gained power.

I feel like I should tell you that Redneck Revolt ain't really that Marxist.
They would likely fall under Libertarian Socialism and/or Anarcho-Syndicalism/Revolutionary Syndicalism.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:15 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The fuck any of this has to do with the Mueller investigation?


I don't know lol

Do you have anything to say about the Mueller investigation and the latest reports of potential implications for the President?
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Postby Kash Island » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:17 pm

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I don't know lol

Do you have anything to say about the Mueller investigation and the latest reports of potential implications for the President?


Yes,I would like to say the report is garbage and the opening post is pretty trash to since it's basically an anti-trump circle jerk trying to be taken seriously. :)
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:21 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Do you have anything to say about the Mueller investigation and the latest reports of potential implications for the President?


Yes,I would like to say the report is garbage and the opening post is pretty trash to since it's basically an anti-trump circle jerk trying to be taken seriously. :)

Which "report" is garbage?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:22 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Do you have anything to say about the Mueller investigation and the latest reports of potential implications for the President?


Yes,I would like to say the report is garbage and the opening post is pretty trash to since it's basically an anti-trump circle jerk trying to be taken seriously. :)

Exactly what is trash about the report? I haven't read much about it beyond that it exists and, though heavily redacted, that it points to "Individual 1", and everyone seems to be concluding that that's Trump, directing Michael Cohen to break the law.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:23 pm

Valgora wrote:
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"leftist group" is a understatment, a radical Marxist group who would very likely kill me if they gained power.

I feel like I should tell you that Redneck Revolt ain't really that Marxist.
They would likely fall under Libertarian Socialism and/or Anarcho-Syndicalism/Revolutionary Syndicalism.


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Postby Kash Island » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:23 pm

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Yes,I would like to say the report is garbage and the opening post is pretty trash to since it's basically an anti-trump circle jerk trying to be taken seriously. :)

Exactly what is trash about the report? I haven't read much about it beyond that it exists and, though heavily redacted, that it points to "Individual 1", and everyone seems to be concluding that that's Trump, directing Michael Cohen to break the law.


"everyone" is subjective

the point is, no real collusion has been found

for the 100th time, if there was any real evidence of serious collusion, even half-way decent evidence, Trump would be toast already.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:29 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Exactly what is trash about the report? I haven't read much about it beyond that it exists and, though heavily redacted, that it points to "Individual 1", and everyone seems to be concluding that that's Trump, directing Michael Cohen to break the law.


"everyone" is subjective

the point is, no real collusion has been found

for the 100th time, if there was any real evidence of serious collusion, even half-way decent evidence, Trump would be toast already.

You do realize that the investigation for collusion is underway? That's like saying there isn't a crime because there's an investigation.

You're literally writing it off simply because it hasn't been concluded. That is literally, exactly, what you are saying.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:29 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Exactly what is trash about the report? I haven't read much about it beyond that it exists and, though heavily redacted, that it points to "Individual 1", and everyone seems to be concluding that that's Trump, directing Michael Cohen to break the law.


"everyone" is subjective

Of course.

the point is, no real collusion has been found

The investigation can, potentially, have discovered evidence of crimes not strictly related to any collusion with Russian agents. Such an occurrence is possible. And we don't yet know what the findings of the investigation are .

for the 100th time, if there was any real evidence of serious collusion, even half-way decent evidence, Trump would be toast already.

If Individual 1 is Trump then it kinda sounds like he is toast. I'm no fancy, big city lawyer, but it seems to me that telling your lawyer to break the law can only be illegal.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:30 pm

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Kash Island wrote:for the 100th time, if there was any real evidence of serious collusion, even half-way decent evidence, Trump would be toast already.

If Individual 1 is Trump then it kinda sounds like he is toast. I'm no fancy, big city lawyer, but it seems to me that telling your lawyer to break the law can only be illegal.

Also this.^^
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Postby Vrolondia » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:31 pm

Kash Island wrote:
oh my god fine, I will entertain you

"Police, prisons, courts, artificial borders, and other systems of social control only exist to serve the rich."

that's why we won't have a good conversation, yes that's from Redneck Revolt.


Well I mean, you're not wrong. Anything that enforces the status quo invariably serves the rich because the rich make rules regarding how they can be challenged.
Ie. I can't challenge rich people to duels anymore, and it's not because poor people were dying. Rich people throughout history have gotten away with murdering poor people in various ways, what with crossroad killings, nepotism, pride and honour and all that.
People don't fight duels anymore because having rich people killed or jailed hurts the economy, but god forbid someone poor try to fight a noble not on their terms.

Tldr; righteous or not, he probably won't be impeached and he'll most likely be pardoned, just like Nixon.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:50 pm

Vrolondia wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
oh my god fine, I will entertain you

"Police, prisons, courts, artificial borders, and other systems of social control only exist to serve the rich."

that's why we won't have a good conversation, yes that's from Redneck Revolt.


Well I mean, you're not wrong. Anything that enforces the status quo invariably serves the rich because the rich make rules regarding how they can be challenged.
Ie. I can't challenge rich people to duels anymore, and it's not because poor people were dying. Rich people throughout history have gotten away with murdering poor people in various ways, what with crossroad killings, nepotism, pride and honour and all that.
People don't fight duels anymore because having rich people killed or jailed hurts the economy, but god forbid someone poor try to fight a noble not on their terms.

Tldr; righteous or not, he probably won't be impeached and he'll most likely be pardoned, just like Nixon.

Meh. It'd be political suicide though.
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Kowani wrote:
Vrolondia wrote:
Well I mean, you're not wrong. Anything that enforces the status quo invariably serves the rich because the rich make rules regarding how they can be challenged.
Ie. I can't challenge rich people to duels anymore, and it's not because poor people were dying. Rich people throughout history have gotten away with murdering poor people in various ways, what with crossroad killings, nepotism, pride and honour and all that.
People don't fight duels anymore because having rich people killed or jailed hurts the economy, but god forbid someone poor try to fight a noble not on their terms.

Tldr; righteous or not, he probably won't be impeached and he'll most likely be pardoned, just like Nixon.

Meh. It'd be political suicide though.

I'm sure he'll find someone willing to take 1.5 billion to push the Senate for a pardon
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Kowani wrote:
Vrolondia wrote:
Well I mean, you're not wrong. Anything that enforces the status quo invariably serves the rich because the rich make rules regarding how they can be challenged.
Ie. I can't challenge rich people to duels anymore, and it's not because poor people were dying. Rich people throughout history have gotten away with murdering poor people in various ways, what with crossroad killings, nepotism, pride and honour and all that.
People don't fight duels anymore because having rich people killed or jailed hurts the economy, but god forbid someone poor try to fight a noble not on their terms.

Tldr; righteous or not, he probably won't be impeached and he'll most likely be pardoned, just like Nixon.

Meh. It'd be political suicide though.


I think you're vastly overestimating how much the average Republican would give a fuck if they pardoned Trump...
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Man, it's almost as if y'all elected a massive crook. If only there had been some sort of long, well-documented history of him being a crook.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:04 pm

Telconi wrote:
Kowani wrote:Meh. It'd be political suicide though.


I think you're vastly overestimating how much the average Republican would give a fuck if they pardoned Trump...

Republicans can't pardon Trump.
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Liriena wrote:Man, it's almost as if y'all elected a massive crook. If only there had been some sort of long, well-documented history of him being a crook.


If only...
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Ifreann wrote:Exactly what is trash about the report? I haven't read much about it beyond that it exists and, though heavily redacted, that it points to "Individual 1", and everyone seems to be concluding that that's Trump, directing Michael Cohen to break the law.


"everyone" is subjective

the point is, no real collusion has been found

for the 100th time, if there was any real evidence of serious collusion, even half-way decent evidence, Trump would be toast already.

I sure hope somebody is paying you for all this embarrassing shilling.
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Telconi wrote:
I think you're vastly overestimating how much the average Republican would give a fuck if they pardoned Trump...

Republicans can't pardon Trump.


And why's that?
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