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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:06 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
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A world where only the First Nations and other aboriginal groups qualify for US Citizenship? Sounds like fun.


Why would Indians qualify for citizenship at all?


They wouldn't, they live in India...

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Postby Cascadian Vinland » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:07 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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Why would Indians qualify for citizenship at all?


Because they're the only actual Ethnic Americans.


You should take a history class. None of them were involved in the conception, creation, or implementation of the United States. In fact, they weren't even granted citizenship until the Snyder Act in the 1920s. So, no. An Apache is not a "Native American" lol.

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Postby The South Falls » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:07 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
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I think the Trump administration has made everyone too jumpy to just deport people.


I think we should strip citizenship status from non-ethnic Americans and make them live under laws for aliens. Anyone who isn't here legally should just be executed.

Ethnic Americans? What does that mean? Also, bruh. I can replace my hairline, and mow the lawn with that edge.
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Postby Cascadian Vinland » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:07 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
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Why would Indians qualify for citizenship at all?


They wouldn't, they live in India...


Amerindians. We just call them Indians for short in the USA.

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Postby The South Falls » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:07 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
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Because they're the only actual Ethnic Americans.


You should take a history class. None of them were involved in the conception, creation, or implementation of the United States. In fact, they weren't even granted citizenship until the Snyder Act in the 1920s. So, no. An Apache is not a "Native American" lol.

So, no one who was not related to a founding father. I'm sorry, you aren't on the list.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:07 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
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Because they're the only actual Ethnic Americans.


You should take a history class. None of them were involved in the conception, creation, or implementation of the United States. In fact, they weren't even granted citizenship until the Snyder Act in the 1920s. So, no. An Apache is not a "Native American" lol.


So basically you're just being a giant racist and are getting salty that you got called on it.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:08 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
Kowani wrote:That would see the US destroyed as a country. Y’know, Native Americans and all.


I don't understand what you are saying. Native Americans are of British stock, although we do have a significant amount of fully integrated people from other Germanic nations.

Mate. No. Native Americans, also called American Indians, are Ethnic Americans. British Anglo-Saxon Americans, as well as other Europeans are the descendants of colonizers.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:08 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
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I think the Trump administration has made everyone too jumpy to just deport people.


I think we should strip citizenship status from non-ethnic Americans and make them live under laws for aliens. Anyone who isn't here legally should just be executed.

What the hell is an “ethnic American”?
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:08 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Cascadian Vinland wrote:
You should take a history class. None of them were involved in the conception, creation, or implementation of the United States. In fact, they weren't even granted citizenship until the Snyder Act in the 1920s. So, no. An Apache is not a "Native American" lol.


So basically you're just being a giant racist and are getting salty that you got called on it.

I mean, with edge like that, what are you going to do? Argue?
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Postby Otira » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:08 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:Shame. They're wasting time on him when they could be deporting actual illegal immigrante.

No human being is illegal.

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Postby Mardla » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:09 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Cascadian Vinland wrote:
Why would Indians qualify for citizenship at all?


They wouldn't, they live in India...

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Postby Cascadian Vinland » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:10 pm

The South Falls wrote:Ethnic Americans? What does that mean?


Well, my ancestors built one of the colonies and their descendants went on to build a couple of states for the union. That makes me a real American.

You can't put a mouse in a barn and expect it to magically become a horse, can you?

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:10 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Cascadian Vinland wrote:
I think we should strip citizenship status from non-ethnic Americans and make them live under laws for aliens. Anyone who isn't here legally should just be executed.

What the hell is an “ethnic American”?


White People, apparently. Because the natives don't count because reasons.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:10 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
I think the Trump administration has made everyone too jumpy to just deport people.


I think we should strip citizenship status from non-ethnic Americans and make them live under laws for aliens. Anyone who isn't here legally should just be executed.

Got it, only Native Americans can have US citizenship.
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Postby Valgora » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:10 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Because they're the only actual Ethnic Americans.


You should take a history class. None of them were involved in the conception, creation, or implementation of the United States. In fact, they weren't even granted citizenship until the Snyder Act in the 1920s. So, no. An Apache is not a "Native American" lol.

A Native American is someone who is born in America, but an Apache and other American Indians are Indigenous Americans; therefore, they are the only ethnic Americans.
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:10 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Ethnic Americans? What does that mean?


Well, my ancestors built one of the colonies and their descendants went on to build a couple of states for the union. That makes me a real American.

You can't put a mouse in a barn and expect it to magically become a horse, can you?

What the fuck have you done? Built a fucking racist commune?
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Postby Mardla » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:10 pm

Otira wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Shame. They're wasting time on him when they could be deporting actual illegal immigrante.

No human being is illegal.

Wrong. If their very presence is illegal, then they are an illegal alien.
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:12 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Ethnic Americans? What does that mean?


Well, my ancestors built one of the colonies and their descendants went on to build a couple of states for the union. That makes me a real American.

You can't put a mouse in a barn and expect it to magically become a horse, can you?

BTW, my ancestors built homes and farmed. Many were slaves. We built the union. That makes me a real American.
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Postby Valgora » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:13 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Ethnic Americans? What does that mean?


Well, my ancestors built one of the colonies and their descendants went on to build a couple of states for the union. That makes me a real American.

You can't put a mouse in a barn and expect it to magically become a horse, can you?

The only ethnic Americans are Indigenous Americans.
You, your ancestors, and their descendants ain't Indigenous Americans.

You must believe you can put a mouse in a barn and expect it to become a horse based off of what you're saying.
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Postby Cascadian Vinland » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:14 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:What the hell is an “ethnic American”?


White People, apparently. Because the natives don't count because reasons.


They don't count because they weren't involved in creating America, they already have their own nations, they aren't of common blood to us, and they don't share the same history and culture that we have.

It just makes sense, doesn't it?

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:15 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
White People, apparently. Because the natives don't count because reasons.


They don't count because they weren't involved in creating America, they already have their own nations, they aren't of common blood to us, and they don't share the same history and culture that we have.

It just makes sense, doesn't it?


No, because I'm not looking for excuses to start in on the ethnic cleansing.
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Postby Cascadian Vinland » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:15 pm

Valgora wrote:
Cascadian Vinland wrote:
You should take a history class. None of them were involved in the conception, creation, or implementation of the United States. In fact, they weren't even granted citizenship until the Snyder Act in the 1920s. So, no. An Apache is not a "Native American" lol.

A Native American is someone who is born in America, but an Apache and other American Indians are Indigenous Americans; therefore, they are the only ethnic Americans.

Indians didn't know what the fuck America was until it expanded to their doorstep.

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Postby Kowani » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:16 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
White People, apparently. Because the natives don't count because reasons.


They don't count because they weren't involved in creating America, they already have their own nations, they aren't of common blood to us, and they don't share the same history and culture that we have.

It just makes sense, doesn't it?

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Postby Cascadian Vinland » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:16 pm

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No, because I'm not looking for excuses to start in on the ethnic cleansing.

Why not?

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