by The Untied Federation of Russia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:29 pm
by Engleberg » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:35 pm
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by Teachian » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:36 pm
by Steampunk World War 1 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:38 pm
by Trinadaed » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:38 pm
The Untied Federation of Russia wrote:Now before you say "OMG IT'S NOT DECEMBER 7TH YET!" well calm down there a second and let me explain. Yes I know it isn't December 7th but wouldn't it be fun to discuss the events at Pearl Harbor?
Anyway for those who don't know American History, December 7th, 1941 was the day the Japanese bombed a U.S. Naval base in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. Many American ships were sunk and around 2,335 people were killed during the attack. What was the result of this attack you may ask?
Well for starters it weakened the U.S. Pacific fleet and dragged America into World War 2 which led to Japanese-American citizens being sent to camps all across the United States.
So NSG what is your opinion on the Attack On Pearl Harbor? Do you think Japan was sucessful in knocking out the U.S. Pacific fleet or did they fail in doing so by dragging America into World War 2?
My opinion- I'm neutral on this because for one while Japan had a good plan it also resulted in their downfall by the end of the war. And the Japanese-American citizens were abused in the United States just because of their country of origin. Which I get America was worried about spies but they shouldn't have put Japanese-American citizens into camps.
But then again during times of war a country has to make the toughest choices when it comes to protecting the homefront.
by Steampunk World War 1 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:53 pm
Engleberg wrote:May we never forget the Day of Infamy and those who died in this unprovoked attack. May Americans also remember those who died protecting our nation against the forces of evil during this trying time. I couldn’t imagine being stuck in one of the battleships that capsized after being torpedoed. Having nearly no way to get out because of that armour. All because of some radar operators/commanders who thought it was just a glitch.
Hopefully we will not have a repeat in 2041 of either WWII or WWI. God Bless America.
EDIT: read the OP a bit more.
No, I do not see Pearl Harbour being successful for the Japanese. They failed to destroy the US aircraft carriers, which would prove vital in Midway. Destroying older battleships might’ve seemed crucial to the Japanese, who still followed the B.B. doctrine, but it did little to nothing but anger the US into joining the war and activating its war machine. The Japanese would’ve had to attack the US eventually, but this wasn’t the right time or place and only spelled their fate.
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by The Untied Federation of Russia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:37 pm
Teachian wrote:It was a pretty shocking and ballsy move. Though if I remember correctly, didn’t they fail to deal any real damage to the station’s infrastructure (at least when it came to fuel) and missed all the U.S. aircraft carriers (who were out on a training exercise)?
Not to say that it wasn’t a good move, or that we don’t have the benefit of hindsight, but the surprise attack mostly ended up angering America more than crippling it. Though, in all fairness, I highly doubt there was any scenario Japan wouldn’t have hard to wear the U.S. down before they gave up, which means it was a lost cause from the beginning.
by US-SSR » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:25 pm
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by Steampunk World War 1 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:38 pm
by Dark Socialism » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:40 pm
by Steampunk World War 1 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:48 pm
US-SSR wrote:One wonders how the Japanese attack would have played out had they not violated international law by failing to inform the US of their declaration of war before launching it, not to mention their attacks on UK forces in Malaya, Singapore and Hong Kong. Blinded by military ambition, the Japanese High Command miscalculated badly and brought the combined might of the Allied forces down on their own heads, leading to inevitable and inexorable defeat. Those responsible paid the ultimate price. May the world nevermore see such slaughter, and may warmongers, war criminals, torturers and violent nationalists, wherever they are, meet the same fate as Tojo, Muto, Kimura, Itagaki, Hirota, Doihara and Matsui.
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by The Untied Federation of Russia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:57 pm
Steampunk World War 1 wrote:US-SSR wrote:One wonders how the Japanese attack would have played out had they not violated international law by failing to inform the US of their declaration of war before launching it, not to mention their attacks on UK forces in Malaya, Singapore and Hong Kong. Blinded by military ambition, the Japanese High Command miscalculated badly and brought the combined might of the Allied forces down on their own heads, leading to inevitable and inexorable defeat. Those responsible paid the ultimate price. May the world nevermore see such slaughter, and may warmongers, war criminals, torturers and violent nationalists, wherever they are, meet the same fate as Tojo, Muto, Kimura, Itagaki, Hirota, Doihara and Matsui.
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I'm pretty sure International Law wasn't a thing during World War 2 since both sides did some war crimes. Correct me if I am wrong by the way.
by Steampunk World War 1 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:59 pm
The Untied Federation of Russia wrote:Steampunk World War 1 wrote:
I'm pretty sure International Law wasn't a thing during World War 2 since both sides did some war crimes. Correct me if I am wrong by the way.
International Laws were still around during the time of World War 2 its just that both sides broke some of those laws.
Like how the U.S. imprison Japanese-American citizens into camps after the attacks on Pearl Harbor.
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:00 pm
by US-SSR » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:01 pm
Steampunk World War 1 wrote:US-SSR wrote:One wonders how the Japanese attack would have played out had they not violated international law by failing to inform the US of their declaration of war before launching it, not to mention their attacks on UK forces in Malaya, Singapore and Hong Kong. Blinded by military ambition, the Japanese High Command miscalculated badly and brought the combined might of the Allied forces down on their own heads, leading to inevitable and inexorable defeat. Those responsible paid the ultimate price. May the world nevermore see such slaughter, and may warmongers, war criminals, torturers and violent nationalists, wherever they are, meet the same fate as Tojo, Muto, Kimura, Itagaki, Hirota, Doihara and Matsui.
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I'm pretty sure International Law wasn't a thing during World War 2 since both sides did some war crimes. Correct me if I am wrong by the way.
by Steampunk World War 1 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:10 pm
US-SSR wrote:Steampunk World War 1 wrote:
I'm pretty sure International Law wasn't a thing during World War 2 since both sides did some war crimes. Correct me if I am wrong by the way.
OK. Japan was a state party to the 1907 Hague Convention Relative to the Opening of Hostilities which required states to notify each other before the commencement of war. Just because states did war crimes in WWII (and today), just because some war crimes were (and are) not punished, does not mean international law is not a thing. To be fair, the formal charges against the Japanese defendants were waging aggressive war, not necessarily failing to declare war, though that fact didn't exactly help them avoid the noose.
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by Cetacea » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:34 am
Engleberg wrote:May we never forget the Day of Infamy and those who died in this unprovoked attack. May Americans also remember those who died protecting our nation against the forces of evil during this trying time.
No, I do not see Pearl Harbour being successful for the Japanese. They failed to destroy the US aircraft carriers, which would prove vital in Midway. Destroying older battleships might’ve seemed crucial to the Japanese, who still followed the B.B. doctrine, but it did little to nothing but anger the US into joining the war and activating its war machine. The Japanese would’ve had to attack the US eventually, but this wasn’t the right time or place and only spelled their fate.
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