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what do you think about these people?

They are doing the right thing.
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8%
They are ruining the holiday.
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I see both sides.
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Not sure.
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Postby Page » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:40 pm

New Genoa wrote:Personally, I find it greatly amusing to see right wing blowhards lose their shit over silly stuff like this.


The freak out over the red Starbucks cups was my favorite.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:57 pm

New Genoa wrote:Personally, I find it greatly amusing to see right wing blowhards lose their shit over silly stuff like this.

So war on Christmas is ok in my book.


Uh....I'm pretty sure it's left wingers losing their shit over people saying ''Merry Christmas'' rather than ''Happly Holidays''.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Arlenton » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:02 pm

I do enjoy the holidays. The fact that it causes such mental pain to those afraid of even a slight hint of racism/sexism/whateverism is hilarious and makes the holiday season more enjoyable.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:26 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
New Genoa wrote:Personally, I find it greatly amusing to see right wing blowhards lose their shit over silly stuff like this.

So war on Christmas is ok in my book.


Uh....I'm pretty sure it's left wingers losing their shit over people saying ''Merry Christmas'' rather than ''Happly Holidays''.

Nope. No one cares, pretty much thought the terms were interchangeable until Glenn Beck and Bill O'Rielly started losing their shit over the idea that saying "Happy Holidays" was some sort of liberal conspiracy to erase Christmas. They extrapolated from a few places telling their tellers to say "Happy Holidays" in order to be inclusive to others since during December they just want money and they don't care what name you give your holiday and the Fox News hosts lost their fucking shit. It's a manufactured situation.
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Postby South Ccanda » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:56 pm

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Postby Crylante » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:34 pm

I don't know. It appears people are too focused on the odd person on social media complaining about possible offences and getting worked up over their statements to enjoy the holiday season.

It's a shame really.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:40 pm

Page wrote:I am firmly of the belief that the majority, perhaps the vast majority of controversies in which someone is supposedly offended by this or that, are false flags manufactured by far-right trolls, so they can respond to it, so they can keep saying "everyone is offended these days, but I'm a smart freethinking person who isn't politically correct!"

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Postby Chernoslavia » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:48 pm

Page wrote:I am firmly of the belief that the majority, perhaps the vast majority of controversies in which someone is supposedly offended by this or that, are false flags manufactured by far-right trolls, so they can respond to it, so they can keep saying "everyone is offended these days, but I'm a smart freethinking person who isn't politically correct!"


So I suppose you think SJWs getting offended over a paper sign saying it's okay to be white is fake news too right?
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:50 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Page wrote:I am firmly of the belief that the majority, perhaps the vast majority of controversies in which someone is supposedly offended by this or that, are false flags manufactured by far-right trolls, so they can respond to it, so they can keep saying "everyone is offended these days, but I'm a smart freethinking person who isn't politically correct!"


So I suppose you think SJWs getting offended over a paper sign saying it's okay to be white is fake news too right?

Oh shit, are you cats still trying to sell that one as a success? That's fucking precious.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:53 pm

People shouldn't begrudge anyone who likes holiday events and etc. However, it is not all sunshine and rainbows. There is plenty to hate about Holidays for certain people. If they're struggling or if they make hard decisions, or simply aren't into all the stress and frivolities and such surrounding an annual event like Christmas.

December is associated with becoming financially drained or more stressed because of all the materialist pressures and it is wrong in my view. People who have to economize, should feel free to do this without being lambasted for being too "stingy" or whatever other nonsense by strangers who shill for donations for infinite "causes" and immediate family or kids who only want material goods or favors.

There is a far narrower path to becoming financially successful or secure than there is for becoming poor. If you don't have discipline, chances are you'll lose your way until you're too deep in poverty. The solution is to work your way out of it via making better decisions about your limited resources and having more appreciation for being alive. Not constantly comparing yourself to others. All wealth is relative.

Chances are that there is always someone worse or better off than you are. You don't want to be chasing a goal post that is constantly moving out of reach. Stick with more realistic goals and direction and you'll probably be happier regardless of where you're at after a certain point.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:10 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
So I suppose you think SJWs getting offended over a paper sign saying it's okay to be white is fake news too right?

Oh shit, are you cats still trying to sell that one as a success? That's fucking precious.


Good lord, so you do think this was a manufactured situation as well. Newsflash - It wasn't. You have people from the institution being genuinely pissed about it. And yeah, I would say it was very successful, this little bait proved how overly sensitive the far left are and the amount of outrage that ensued is hilarious, I mean really, you lot are so predictable. And you can stop pretending that this is the only example, we both know that there a shit ton of other crap you folks get easily offended about, and you denying it just takes away your credibility.

The left is hurting itself, and there is no denying it.
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:25 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Oh shit, are you cats still trying to sell that one as a success? That's fucking precious.


Good lord, so you do think this was a manufactured situation as well. Newsflash - It wasn't.

It literally could not have been more manufactured if you had played Powerhouse while doing it. I remember the cloying thread where you cats tried so desperately tried to make this work.

Instead, all the stories, and there weren't many, all knew to do a half a second google search and found the origin of the campaign and reported on it. Then you guys tried to paint that as outrage. It was hilarious to watch, but not as hilarious as you still pretending it worked. For those who missed it, you can check out the 96 pages of comedy here.

The short version is one of those posts where they take themselves waaaaaaay too seriously came up as a hamhanded way to try culture jamming with all that super serious for a 12 year old talk...check it out:
Do Not Alter The Message
Do Not Alter The Flyers
Anyone Who Tries To Change Things Is A Shill
There Is No Phase 2

It’s Okay To Be White. 5 words. Simple, elegant, effective. The plan is working. Stick to the plan. There is no phase 2.

If you take part remember; print the original flyers in the pic, post them in legal areas, be aware of cameras, and get home safely.

Do not trespass. Do not Vandalize. Do not post over other signs or flyers. Do not say anything racist or provocative in the comments of news stories. We are giving the left all the rope they want and they are racing to hang themselves. The goal is to expose the media’s anti-white bias through their reaction to a harmless flyer. It is working. Stick to the plan. There is no phase 2. Anyone who suggests change is a shill.

And the anti-white bias that the media portrayed? They reported, "So, people put up these fliers and this is why. Kind of dorky, misses the point, but what's new, right?"

They had to make the thread themselves when there was no outrage. Goddamn hilarious.

Chernoslavia wrote: You have people from the institution being genuinely pissed about it.

Not being able to name a single place this was done and have to refer to it as 'the institution' is also hilarious. Also, 'genuinely pissed' is a relative term.
Chernoslavia wrote:
And yeah, I would say it was very successful, this little bait proved how overly sensitive the far left are and the amount of outrage that ensued is hilarious,

In that there was virtually none.
Chernoslavia wrote: I mean really, you lot are so predictable. And you can stop pretending that this is the only example, we both know that there a shit ton of other crap you folks get easily offended about, and you denying it just takes away your credibility.

Sure.
Chernoslavia wrote:The left is hurting itself, and there is no denying it.

Okey dokey.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:51 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Good lord, so you do think this was a manufactured situation as well. Newsflash - It wasn't.

It literally could not have been more manufactured if you had played Powerhouse while doing it. I remember the cloying thread where you cats tried so desperately tried to make this work.

Instead, all the stories, and there weren't many, all knew to do a half a second google search and found the origin of the campaign and reported on it. Then you guys tried to paint that as outrage. It was hilarious to watch, but not as hilarious as you still pretending it worked. For those who missed it, you can check out the 96 pages of comedy here.

The short version is one of those posts where they take themselves waaaaaaay too seriously came up as a hamhanded way to try culture jamming with all that super serious for a 12 year old talk...check it out:
Do Not Alter The Message
Do Not Alter The Flyers
Anyone Who Tries To Change Things Is A Shill
There Is No Phase 2

It’s Okay To Be White. 5 words. Simple, elegant, effective. The plan is working. Stick to the plan. There is no phase 2.

If you take part remember; print the original flyers in the pic, post them in legal areas, be aware of cameras, and get home safely.

Do not trespass. Do not Vandalize. Do not post over other signs or flyers. Do not say anything racist or provocative in the comments of news stories. We are giving the left all the rope they want and they are racing to hang themselves. The goal is to expose the media’s anti-white bias through their reaction to a harmless flyer. It is working. Stick to the plan. There is no phase 2. Anyone who suggests change is a shill.

And the anti-white bias that the media portrayed? They reported, "So, people put up these fliers and this is why. Kind of dorky, misses the point, but what's new, right?"

They had to make the thread themselves when there was no outrage. Goddamn hilarious.

Chernoslavia wrote: You have people from the institution being genuinely pissed about it.

Not being able to name a single place this was done and have to refer to it as 'the institution' is also hilarious. Also, 'genuinely pissed' is a relative term.
Chernoslavia wrote:
And yeah, I would say it was very successful, this little bait proved how overly sensitive the far left are and the amount of outrage that ensued is hilarious,

In that there was virtually none.
Chernoslavia wrote: I mean really, you lot are so predictable. And you can stop pretending that this is the only example, we both know that there a shit ton of other crap you folks get easily offended about, and you denying it just takes away your credibility.

Sure.
Chernoslavia wrote:The left is hurting itself, and there is no denying it.

Okey dokey.


Thread? I have no idea what you’re talking about, but in either case it does not address my statements at all, so I really don’t care.

I really don’t see why you felt the need to show me the instructions.

Nice omission but try “It’s evil motivation, go back to your hole” “Disturbing story”. Students tearing down one of the papers. Another saying how a paper that means it’s okay to be white means “it’s not okay to be people of color.” And this isn’t the first and only campus where this stunt happened. You do realize they even tried to get police involved right?

So now you’re upset that I didn’t specify the place where this originally took place. Lol ok?

Just face it. People baited the far left into making fools of themselves and it worked, as much as you wish to deny it.

Me: people got outraged.
News: people are outraged.
Campus Student: I’m outraged.
You: Lalalala! Fake news!
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:06 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:It literally could not have been more manufactured if you had played Powerhouse while doing it. I remember the cloying thread where you cats tried so desperately tried to make this work.

Instead, all the stories, and there weren't many, all knew to do a half a second google search and found the origin of the campaign and reported on it. Then you guys tried to paint that as outrage. It was hilarious to watch, but not as hilarious as you still pretending it worked. For those who missed it, you can check out the 96 pages of comedy here.

The short version is one of those posts where they take themselves waaaaaaay too seriously came up as a hamhanded way to try culture jamming with all that super serious for a 12 year old talk...check it out:

And the anti-white bias that the media portrayed? They reported, "So, people put up these fliers and this is why. Kind of dorky, misses the point, but what's new, right?"

They had to make the thread themselves when there was no outrage. Goddamn hilarious.


Not being able to name a single place this was done and have to refer to it as 'the institution' is also hilarious. Also, 'genuinely pissed' is a relative term.

In that there was virtually none.

Sure.

Okey dokey.


Thread? I have no idea what you’re talking about, but in either case it does not address my statements at all, so I really don’t care.

I really don’t see why you felt the need to show me the instructions.

Nice omission but try “It’s evil motivation, go back to your hole” “Disturbing story”. Students tearing down one of the papers. Another saying how a paper that means it’s okay to be white means “it’s not okay to be people of color.” And this isn’t the first and only campus where this stunt happened. You do realize they even tried to get police involved right?

So now you’re upset that I didn’t specify the place where this originally took place. Lol ok?

Just face it. People baited the far left into making fools of themselves and it worked, as much as you wish to deny it.

Me: people got outraged.
News: people are outraged.
Campus Student: I’m outraged.
You: Lalalala! Fake news!

People are free to click the link to the original thread I already provided and see how pathetically this all played out. There's no need to hijack this thread on manufactured outrage with another failed attempt.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:12 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Thread? I have no idea what you’re talking about, but in either case it does not address my statements at all, so I really don’t care.

I really don’t see why you felt the need to show me the instructions.

Nice omission but try “It’s evil motivation, go back to your hole” “Disturbing story”. Students tearing down one of the papers. Another saying how a paper that means it’s okay to be white means “it’s not okay to be people of color.” And this isn’t the first and only campus where this stunt happened. You do realize they even tried to get police involved right?

So now you’re upset that I didn’t specify the place where this originally took place. Lol ok?

Just face it. People baited the far left into making fools of themselves and it worked, as much as you wish to deny it.

Me: people got outraged.
News: people are outraged.
Campus Student: I’m outraged.
You: Lalalala! Fake news!

People are free to click the link to the original thread I already provided and see how pathetically this all played out. There's no need to hijack this thread on manufactured outrage with another failed attempt.


There were people who got butthurt over it. The News even called it “disturbing”. Stop lying. Also let’s take this to TG then. Funny how you advise we stop hijacking the thread now.
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:15 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:People are free to click the link to the original thread I already provided and see how pathetically this all played out. There's no need to hijack this thread on manufactured outrage with another failed attempt.


There were people who got butthurt over it. The News even called it “disturbing”. Stop lying. Also let’s take this to TG then.

1. Do not TG me, I do not accept unsolicited TGs and will block you.
2. People can check the thread if they care. My guess, they do not.
3. It is not the subject of this thread.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:19 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
There were people who got butthurt over it. The News even called it “disturbing”. Stop lying. Also let’s take this to TG then.

1. Do not TG me, I do not accept unsolicited TGs and will block you.
2. People can check the thread if they care. My guess, they do not.
3. It is not the subject of this thread.


1. Oh no! Can is gonna block me and not talk to me anymore boo-fucking-hoo! :roll:
2. Or you can just check WUSA9’s coverage on the ''incident'' showing people outraged about it.
3. Then stop fucking talking!
4. When you say manufactured outrage do you mean that the people who did this stunt are faking the supposed leftist outrage or that they purposefully caused leftists to be outraged? Cuz you do realize there are people who did express outrage on video about the papers right?
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:56 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
New Genoa wrote:Personally, I find it greatly amusing to see right wing blowhards lose their shit over silly stuff like this.

So war on Christmas is ok in my book.


Uh....I'm pretty sure it's left wingers losing their shit over people saying ''Merry Christmas'' rather than ''Happly Holidays''.

I’ve literally never seen anyone get upset at someone saying “merry Christmas” and I’ve worked in retail for some 6 odd years
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Postby New haven america » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:56 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
New Genoa wrote:Personally, I find it greatly amusing to see right wing blowhards lose their shit over silly stuff like this.

So war on Christmas is ok in my book.


Uh....I'm pretty sure it's left wingers losing their shit over people saying ''Merry Christmas'' rather than ''Happly Holidays''.

It's not.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:05 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
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Uh....I'm pretty sure it's left wingers losing their shit over people saying ''Merry Christmas'' rather than ''Happly Holidays''.

I’ve literally never seen anyone get upset at someone saying “merry Christmas” and I’ve worked in retail for some 6 odd years

For over a decade which included when this fake issue became a talking point in a liberal state in a liberal city at a store that attracts liberals...nada, nothing. No one gave a shit. The only time I even saw someone giving a shit either way was some lady sniping a neighboring store's clerk for saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas."
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Postby The Snazzylands » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:27 pm

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New Genoa wrote:Personally, I find it greatly amusing to see right wing blowhards lose their shit over silly stuff like this.

So war on Christmas is ok in my book.


Uh....I'm pretty sure it's left wingers losing their shit over people saying ''Merry Christmas'' rather than ''Happly Holidays''.

I've literally never even heard of this actually happening in real life. I'm convinced it's just the Christmas edition of the "leftists hate Western culture" strawman.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:02 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Uh....I'm pretty sure it's left wingers losing their shit over people saying ''Merry Christmas'' rather than ''Happly Holidays''.

I’ve literally never seen anyone get upset at someone saying “merry Christmas” and I’ve worked in retail for some 6 odd years


I haven't actually looked into the matter so I wouldn't really know, just something I kept hearing.

Now if I can get Cannot to concede that there were in fact leftists outraged by ''it's okay to be white''....
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Postby Valgora » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:12 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:I’ve literally never seen anyone get upset at someone saying “merry Christmas” and I’ve worked in retail for some 6 odd years


I haven't actually looked into the matter so I wouldn't really know, just something I kept hearing.

Now if I can get Cannot to concede that there were in fact leftists outraged by ''it's okay to be white''....

First, the "It's okay to be White" was really just stupid to begin with.
Second, I see nothing on Wikipedia about leftists being outraged by it - only some stuff about progressives.
Third, it was later spread by Neo-Nazi and White Supremacists; once that happens, you should probably expect some outrage when that starts happening.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:24 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I’ve literally never seen anyone get upset at someone saying “merry Christmas” and I’ve worked in retail for some 6 odd years


I haven't actually looked into the matter so I wouldn't really know, just something I kept hearing.

Now if I can get Cannot to concede that there were in fact leftists outraged by ''it's okay to be white''....

Dude, really?
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Postby Chernoslavia » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:29 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
I haven't actually looked into the matter so I wouldn't really know, just something I kept hearing.

Now if I can get Cannot to concede that there were in fact leftists outraged by ''it's okay to be white''....

Dude, really?


Not here, obviously.
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