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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:52 pm

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PR New England wrote:I honestly don't care. If corporations want to make Santa woke/stunning and brave, that's okay with me because Jesus is the real focus of Christmas and Santa is just a Coca-Cola commercial. [1]

HEAR HEAR. I mean I'm all up for some festive cheer, mulled wine, roast goose and all the rest of it. But ultimately it is about Christ coming to earth in order to save mankind.

Its about cheese boards, turkey and playing trivial pursuit til 3am with the family
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Postby Rusthenia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:53 pm

Heloin wrote:Santa is Saami.


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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:53 pm

Rusthenia wrote:
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Why? Do you have a list of every single deity worshipped as part of the winter solstice?


because St. Nicholas was an white male. and https://www.thoughtco.com/deities-of-th ... ce-2562976, but were talking about Santa. and must Winter deities are Male.


Santa as we know it is a mashup of god knows how many mythological figures at this point.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:53 pm

Anyone can be Santa if they eat enough cookies, grow there beard,and be jolly and generous to boys and girls of all ages.

Oh, they got to know how to handle flying reindeer too.

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Merconitonitopia wrote:I don't disagree with a non-white Santa in principle, but upon seeing these 'offending' Santas in question, I must remark that they aren't all that festive-looking.
A woman Santa doesn't really make much sense given we already have Mrs. Claus, although I suppose it's acceptable if she's a particularly jolly woman.
But fat? Yes, he must be fat. Let's not get carried away here.

idk man this ex army captain black santa looks great.
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Postby Caracasus » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:54 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Hrythingia wrote:HEAR HEAR. I mean I'm all up for some festive cheer, mulled wine, roast goose and all the rest of it. But ultimately it is about Christ coming to earth in order to save mankind.

Its about cheese boards, turkey and playing trivial pursuit til 3am with the family


Yup. That and the 3 or 4 days of the year where it's acceptable to drink during the day.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:55 pm

I don't care who portrays Santa.
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Postby Hystaria » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:56 pm

Gartonch wrote:Yes, he will always be an old fat white guy because... you know... :bow: WHITE SUPREMACY :bow:

Or that, you know, tradition, like from Fon people of Benin tell of Gu, it would be weird if some weird white girl played as him.

Its just Tradition and respect...and i am an asexual atheist, but i still know the whats and why they see that way
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:58 pm

Hystaria wrote:
Gartonch wrote:Yes, he will always be an old fat white guy because... you know... :bow: WHITE SUPREMACY :bow:

Or that, you know, tradition, like from Fon people of Benin tell of Gu, it would be weird if some weird white girl played as him.

Its just Tradition and respect....


Santas always been a bit weird, but a white girl could play Ms.Claus
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Postby Hrythingia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:58 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Hrythingia wrote:HEAR HEAR. I mean I'm all up for some festive cheer, mulled wine, roast goose and all the rest of it. But ultimately it is about Christ coming to earth in order to save mankind.

Its about cheese boards, turkey and playing trivial pursuit til 3am with the family

Thats part of the festive fun aye, but the reason why we celebrate is in the name. And that should not be forgotten.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:58 pm

Eh. It's just Santa. His/her name isn't masculine or feminine, so I'm alright with that.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:58 pm

To follow up on what I said, a good chunk of the deities associated with the winter solstice are in fact female. Including, but not limited to Alcyone, Ameratasu, Bona Dea, Cailleach Bheur, Demeter, Frau Holle and Frigga, among others.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:59 pm

Gartonch wrote:Yes, he will always be an old fat white guy because... you know... :bow: WHITE SUPREMACY :bow:

If that's not a joke I'm telling santa to move your name to the naughty list.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:59 pm

Hrythingia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Its about cheese boards, turkey and playing trivial pursuit til 3am with the family

Thats part of the festive fun aye, but the reason why we celebrate is in the name. And that should not be forgotten.

Yeah good lot of people are not going to care about that.
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Postby Ccanda » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:00 pm

Considering all the different backgrounds for Christmas(Even my Jewish friends family celebrates it), y'all can do with Santa what you want. put him in full BDSM gear for all I care, but do not try to push that on my kids. it's one thing to say that santa is whatever you want him to be, but to tell someone he is a certain way is way over the line the way I view it. for my children and I, hes a fat old white dude cause thats what my familial traditions say he is.
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Postby NERVUN » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:00 pm

Santa is a tall skeleton with a fake beard and a cushion down his robe, of course... Or is that the Hogfather, I forget...

Don't bother me none, especially as Japanese Santas are normal here for obvious reasons. Though kids do seem to think that Santa MUST be a white dude, which also suits me fine as that's how I earn some Christmas money.

Er, for those saying that St Nicholas has to be a white guy though... have you looked at the older images of him? He wasn't.
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Postby Hrythingia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:02 pm

Vassenor wrote:To follow up on what I said, a good chunk of the deities associated with the winter solstice are in fact female. Including, but not limited to Alcyone, Ameratasu, Bona Dea, Cailleach Bheur, Demeter, Frau Holle and Frigga, among others.

This is a valid point if we are talking about Yuletide festivities however Santa is part of the Christian understanding of Christmas; Santa meaning Saint. Saint Nicholas ought to be a a jolly fat bearded man.
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Hrythingia wrote:Thats part of the festive fun aye, but the reason why we celebrate is in the name. And that should not be forgotten.

Yeah good lot of people are not going to care about that.

Fine, but that is the festival they are celebrating.
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Postby PR New England » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:04 pm

NERVUN wrote:Santa is a tall skeleton with a fake beard and a cushion down his robe, of course... Or is that the Hogfather, I forget...

Don't bother me none, especially as Japanese Santas are normal here for obvious reasons. Though kids do seem to think that Santa MUST be a white dude, which also suits me fine as that's how I earn some Christmas money.

Er, for those saying that St Nicholas has to be a white guy though... have you looked at the older images of him? He wasn't.

If I had to have an opinion, I'd say that its probably best Santa stays a white guy. Only because that is the image most people have of him.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:09 pm

At the very least, I'm sure that people can agree Santa Claus would be male.

Right?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:11 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:At the very least, I'm sure that people can agree Santa Claus would be male.

Right?


Well way to ignore everything I've said about how not every solstice deity is male.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Hystaria wrote:Or that, you know, tradition, like from Fon people of Benin tell of Gu, it would be weird if some weird white girl played as him.

Its just Tradition and respect....


Santas always been a bit weird, but a white girl could play Ms.Claus

Yes, Ms, a separate person, and the statement about a ¨a weird white girl¨ was at portraying Gu, the black man
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Earth Luna and Mars wrote:Must SJWs always use the "Race card" to whine about something?

"OMG a debate question on race it must be the ebil sjws who posted it"
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Postby Geneviev » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:13 pm

It really doesn't matter how Santa looks. He's usually a fat old white guy, but it can be different. The more important issue is that he's breaking and entering.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:14 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:At the very least, I'm sure that people can agree Santa Claus would be male.

Right?


Well way to ignore everything I've said about how not every solstice deity is male.

That is how most Christmas stories (And advertising) would depict "Santa", though.
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