Must Santa always be an fat old white guy?

by **Hammer Britannia** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:37 pm

A better question is how do we know he is white?

For all we know, he could be an Albino Bantu man who was rejected from his tribe in Kenya

by **Vassenor** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:37 pm

The Black Party wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Did you not ask a question with the intent that any answer would support your argument by default regardless of content or if that even makes logical sense?

No, I asked a question with the intent of receiving an answer the successfully refutes it. Your answer has the intent of refuting, but fails to do so logically.

Did you pull something reaching that hard?

by **Valentine Z** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:38 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:A better question is how do we know he is white?

For all we know, he could be an Albino Bantu man who was rejected from his tribe in Kenya

That might explain why he simply bombards the presents instead of parachuting them down gently; he had enough of this crap.

by **Sahansahiye Iran** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:38 pm

Hrythingia wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Yes and I'm sure Saint Nicholas also rode a flying sleigh, wore a heavy red coat, and lives at the North Pole.

He doesn't but he is the progenitor of the various iterations of the character.

Not in the least. Santa Claus as we know today is an amalgam of several figures drawn from several theories. Certain people even hold he is based on Woden from Yule.

by **The Black Party** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:38 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Black Party wrote:No, I asked a question with the intent of receiving an answer the successfully refutes it. Your answer has the intent of refuting, but fails to do so logically.

Did you pull something reaching that hard?

No, because my first retort is literally a re-wording of my last.

The Black Party wrote:You did. I asked, "why can't," and your reply was "Because there's nothing saying he has to be."

by **Sahansahiye Iran** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:39 pm

The Black Party wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Good Lord, you're reaching pretty far. I hope you stretched before those mental gymnastics.

This is simple English. Anyone who's taken a Year 9 English course will easily comprehend this.

And anyone who understands basic logic will see how your reasoning is faulty lol. Vass gave a specifically non-exclusionary answer and you someone how interpreted it to be exclusionary in nature to try and fit your narrative. Fuckin hell.

by **Andsed** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:40 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:A better question is how do we know he is white?

For all we know, he could be an Albino Bantu man who was rejected from his tribe in Kenya

These are the true questions that must be asked.

But seriously can we just stop this utterly pointless debate now? I mean Santa is widely accepted to be a old fat white guy so it is kinda pointless and odd to change it. But it really does not matter. Can we just enjoy the holiday please?

by **The Black Party** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:41 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
The Black Party wrote:This is simple English. Anyone who's taken a Year 9 English course will easily comprehend this.

And anyone who understands basic logic will see how your reasoning is faulty lol. Vass gave a specifically non-exclusionary answer and you someone how interpreted it to be exclusionary in nature to try and fit your narrative. Fuckin hell.

It's not non-exclusionary because it is a reply to a

"Why can't" question with a

"Because this" answer.

by **The South Falls** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:41 pm

Valentine Z wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:A better question is how do we know he is white?

For all we know, he could be an Albino Bantu man who was rejected from his tribe in Kenya

That might explain why he simply bombards the presents instead of parachuting them down gently; he had enough of this crap.

He should just fire the presents from cannons. Catch a shell, and a present!

by **Earth Luna and Mars** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:42 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Earth Luna and Mars wrote:Must SJWs always use the "Race card" to whine about something?

No goddamn need to go

"FUCKING SJWS"

every time you see a debate topic you disagree with. Just calmly debate this argument like everybody else.

I will admit I was very uncivil when first joined this thread but, hey we all make mistakes.

As for the debate itself like I said it doesn't matter what he looks like if you want to see Santa as a African-American that's fine. We just need to relax and enjoy the holidays that's all it matters.

by **The South Falls** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:42 pm

Andsed wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:A better question is how do we know he is white?

For all we know, he could be an Albino Bantu man who was rejected from his tribe in Kenya

These are the true questions that must be asked. But seriously can we just stop this utterly pointless debate now? I mean Santa is widely accepted to be a old fat white guy so it is kinda pointless and odd to change it. But it really does not matter. Can we just enjoy the holiday please?

JINGLE THOSE FUCKING BELLS HARDER!
Wait, that sounds like the opening line to Christmas porn.

by **Andsed** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:42 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:
That might explain why he simply bombards the presents instead of parachuting them down gently; he had enough of this crap.

He should just fire the presents from cannons. Catch a shell, and a present!

That is going to end in an lawsuit real quick.

by **South Ccanda** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:42 pm

Y'all ever heard of cajun santa?

good ole papa noel?

by **Hrythingia** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:42 pm

Andsed wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:A better question is how do we know he is white?

For all we know, he could be an Albino Bantu man who was rejected from his tribe in Kenya

These are the true questions that must be asked. But seriously can we just stop this utterly pointless debate now? I mean Santa is widely accepted to be a old fat white guy so it is kinda pointless and odd to change it. But it really does not matter. Can we just enjoy the holiday please?

No, we can't enjoy our western Christian hetero-normative patriarchal capitalist Christmas.

by **Sahansahiye Iran** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:43 pm

The Black Party wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:And anyone who understands basic logic will see how your reasoning is faulty lol. Vass gave a specifically non-exclusionary answer and you someone how interpreted it to be exclusionary in nature to try and fit your narrative. Fuckin hell.

It's not non-exclusionary because it is a reply to a

"Why can't" question with a

"Because this" answer.

It is logically non-exclusionary if said "because" literally is followed by "it doesn't matter". You're literally just changing things in order to justify your outrage at this point, mate. It's pretty sad.

by **Andsed** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:43 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Andsed wrote:These are the true questions that must be asked. But seriously can we just stop this utterly pointless debate now? I mean Santa is widely accepted to be a old fat white guy so it is kinda pointless and odd to change it. But it really does not matter. Can we just enjoy the holiday please?

JINGLE THOSE FUCKING BELLS HARDER!
Wait, that sounds like the opening line to Christmas porn.

OKAY! *Grabs a fucking sledge hammer and hits bell furiously*

... Yeah it does sound like that. I can´t unhear or unsee that.

by **Hammer Britannia** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:43 pm

Andsed wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:A better question is how do we know he is white?

For all we know, he could be an Albino Bantu man who was rejected from his tribe in Kenya

These are the true questions that must be asked. But seriously can we just stop this utterly pointless debate now? I mean Santa is widely accepted to be a old fat white guy so it is kinda pointless and odd to change it. But it really does not matter. Can we just enjoy the holiday please?

So long as two people on opposite sides can bicker about stupid shit, there will never be peace

Congrats NSG, you ruined Christmas. You're worse than the Grinch.

by **Sahansahiye Iran** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:44 pm

In general, this is such a ridiculous thing to be upset about. Fuckin hell. For those who do insist he must be this, what are people in countries with a lack of fat old white guys supposed to do? Are we importing them now?

by **Andsed** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:44 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Andsed wrote:These are the true questions that must be asked. But seriously can we just stop this utterly pointless debate now? I mean Santa is widely accepted to be a old fat white guy so it is kinda pointless and odd to change it. But it really does not matter. Can we just enjoy the holiday please?

So long as two people on opposite sides can bicker about stupid shit, there will never be peace

Congrats NSG, you ruined Christmas. You're worse than the Grinch.

Sadly this is true. Also we here on NSG have probably ruined a whole lot more than Christmas.

by **Valentine Z** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:45 pm

Like I said, it doesn't matter how he looks, or whether it sticks with the common portrayal.

Just have some Christmas spirit, make friends with one another, maybe cook a killer meal to keep the Winter away.

Don't ruin Valentine's Day, I swear...

by **The South Falls** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:45 pm

Andsed wrote:
The South Falls wrote:He should just fire the presents from cannons. Catch a shell, and a present!

That is going to end in an lawsuit real quick.

What if I want a spent 155mm on Christmas day?

by **Cedoria** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:45 pm

Hrythingia wrote:
Cedoria wrote:Santa is fictional, he doesn't have an ethnicity, by definition.

I mean Saint Nicholas was a real person...

And was neither old, fat nor 'white' in the sense it is described, nor is he in anyway relevant to his fictional counterpart, who shares nothing more then his name.

Just because things have the same name doesn't make them the same,

by **Hammer Britannia** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:46 pm

Valentine Z wrote:Like I said, it doesn't matter how he looks, or whether it sticks with the common portrayal.

Just have some Christmas spirit, make friends with one another, maybe cook a killer meal to keep the Winter away.

Pretty much this

by **The Black Party** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:46 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:It is logically non-exclusionary if said "because" literally is followed by "it doesn't matter".

Removed the pseudo-ad hominem for your pleasure.

According to what logic exactly?

by **Valentine Z** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:46 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Andsed wrote:That is going to end in an lawsuit real quick.

What if I want a spent 155mm on Christmas day?

*Shell* out some money for that!

Must Santa always be an fat old white guy?

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