Must Santa always be an fat old white guy?

[Hurdergaryp]

Proposal.

Let's celebrate Viking Christmas instead. Sacrifice meat and wine to Odin in the hopes that his terrifying fae army doesn't kill us all.

More terrifying than the armies modern day mankind can field? Yeah, right.

[The Emerald Legion]

Proposal.

Let's celebrate Viking Christmas instead. Sacrifice meat and wine to Odin in the hopes that his terrifying fae army doesn't kill us all.

More terrifying than the armies modern day mankind can field? Yeah, right.

Considering it would in large part be made up of modern day humans, or at the very least world war era humans with a smattering of modern humans... Yeah. I think Odins terrifying Fae army could still give us a run for our money.

[Hurdergaryp]

More terrifying than the armies modern day mankind can field? Yeah, right.

Considering it would in large part be made up of modern day humans, or at the very least world war era humans with a smattering of modern humans... Yeah. I think Odins terrifying Fae army could still give us a run for our money.

Given how said Fae army still has to obey the regular laws of physics and biology in order to be a functional combat force, they do not seem to be a problem that can't be fixed by a regular FAE or a mundane bit of carpet bombing.

[TREY DAVIS]

Yes, he will always be an old fat white guy because... you know... WHITE SUPREMACY

Yes, because following an old tradition that included ''A Old, Fat white man" that's based off of a real person named "Saint Nicolas" which millions of people still celebrate is totally a form of white supremacy and racism.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Considering it would in large part be made up of modern day humans, or at the very least world war era humans with a smattering of modern humans... Yeah. I think Odins terrifying Fae army could still give us a run for our money.

Given how said Fae army still has to obey the regular laws of physics and biology in order to be a functional combat force, they do not seem to be a problem that can't be fixed by a regular FAE or a mundane bit of carpet bombing.

You underestimate the fae

[Hurdergaryp]

Given how said Fae army still has to obey the regular laws of physics and biology in order to be a functional combat force, they do not seem to be a problem that can't be fixed by a regular FAE or a mundane bit of carpet bombing.

You underestimate the fae

Is it even possible to underestimate something that doesn't exist?

[Valrifell]

You underestimate the fae

Is it even possible to underestimate something that doesn't exist?

You dare insult the Allfather?!

[Kowani]

Is it even possible to underestimate something that doesn't exist?

You dare insult the Allfather?!

Killed by Jesus. A pacifist. The jokes write themselves...

[The Emerald Legion]

Considering it would in large part be made up of modern day humans, or at the very least world war era humans with a smattering of modern humans... Yeah. I think Odins terrifying Fae army could still give us a run for our money.

Given how said Fae army still has to obey the regular laws of physics and biology in order to be a functional combat force, they do not seem to be a problem that can't be fixed by a regular FAE or a mundane bit of carpet bombing.

I mean. It's a magical fae army made up of part of the souls of the dead in Norse mythology.

I don't think they gotta obey shit, on account of the whole 'Magical Fae Army' to go with Odins 'Magical Undead Army.' which may or may not be the same thing.

[Hurdergaryp]

Is it even possible to underestimate something that doesn't exist?

You dare insult the Allfather?!

Is it even possible to insult something that doesn't exist?

[TREY DAVIS]

You dare insult the Allfather?!

Is it even possible to insult something that doesn't exist?

It's a joke comment.

[Technocracy of Antarctica]

Throwing something Voltaire never actually said at me is not going to make people magically stop finding offensive stereotypes offensive.

[citation needed] And also yes hate speech laws are ridiculous. I do understand it is a dick thing to stereotype and be racist it but to suggest we should start banning and punishing people for saying something is not a path we want to go down.

Thank you, kind sir. I was going to say something along the lines of "Whether he actually said it or not doesn't matter; only the actual meaning of it matters.", but yeah. You're right. Also, btw I switched nations.

[Hurdergaryp]

Is it even possible to insult something that doesn't exist?

It's a joke comment.

Is it even possible to laugh when no entertainment was to be had?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Who gives a flying fuck? It's santa. He gives gifts. Whatever the color of his skin, someone who gives gifts is good. Stop politicising things that don't need to be politicised.

[Khataiy]

let's make him a skinny black guy like Chris Rock or something

[Hurdergaryp]

Where is he portrayed as a slave owner or and animal abuser?

Dutch Santa has slaves typically portrayed by people in blackface.

Which is an oversimplification of Saint Nicholas' personal assistent, given how Zwarte Piet is a syncretic figure originally based upon a devil who challenged Saint Nicholas according to the original myth (who became a servant of Nicholas after losing said challenge), combined with the all-seeing black ravens of Odin, given how Saint Nicholas inherited certain aspect of the Allfather of the ancient Germanic faith. Hence why Saint Nicholas rides over the roofs on a horse in the Netherlands, a mutation of Odin riding through the sky on the back of his eight-legged horse Sleipnir.

[Havenburghe]

Eh santa is a corporate sham made only for kids to force their guardian/parents to spend more at the very stores that made up santa. And no Christmas is not a Christian holiday anyway, its Pagan. So in my opinion Santa should be whatever country wants him to be. White, black, asian, etc. Fat, skinny, etc. Look at Austria, they have Krampus as santas xmas bro.

[The Blaatschapen]

Dutch Santa has slaves typically portrayed by people in blackface.

Which is an oversimplification of Saint Nicholas' personal assistent, given how Zwarte Piet is a syncretic figure originally based upon a devil who challenged Saint Nicholas according to the original myth (who became a servant of Nicholas after losing said challenge), combined with the all-seeing black ravens of Odin, given how Saint Nicholas inherited certain aspect of the Allfather of the ancient Germanic faith. Hence why Saint Nicholas rides over the roofs on a horse in the Netherlands, a mutation of Odin riding through the sky on the back of his eight-legged horse Sleipnir.

Ugh, his horse. Always bragging about his exploits when he's taking a rest in my meadow.

[The Grims]

Dutch Santa has slaves typically portrayed by people in blackface.

Which is an oversimplification of Saint Nicholas' personal assistent, given how Zwarte Piet is a syncretic figure originally based upon a devil who challenged Saint Nicholas according to the original myth (who became a servant of Nicholas after losing said challenge), combined with the all-seeing black ravens of Odin, given how Saint Nicholas inherited certain aspect of the Allfather of the ancient Germanic faith. Hence why Saint Nicholas rides over the roofs on a horse in the Netherlands, a mutation of Odin riding through the sky on the back of his eight-legged horse Sleipnir.

Is there any evidence to this tale ? As far as I understand Dutch Santa had no companion until the 1850s or so - until a writer depicted him with a black servant. Who was human and consistently described as a "nikker" up till the 1950s.

[Lipnitia2]

Clearly santa must be an anorexic young black woman

[The Burke Islands]

Does anyone actually care? Why do we need to even discuss this?

When I was a kid, I paid attention to the red coat and the elves, I wouldn't have cared if he were black, Asian, or even a woman, just gimme my Nintendo DS.

[The New California Republic]

Does anyone actually care? Why do we need to even discuss this?

When I was a kid, I paid attention to the red coat and the elves, I wouldn't have cared if he were black, Asian, or even a woman, just gimme my Nintendo DS Sega Mega Drive.

Fixed.

[Hurdergaryp]

Which is an oversimplification of Saint Nicholas' personal assistent, given how Zwarte Piet is a syncretic figure originally based upon a devil who challenged Saint Nicholas according to the original myth (who became a servant of Nicholas after losing said challenge), combined with the all-seeing black ravens of Odin, given how Saint Nicholas inherited certain aspect of the Allfather of the ancient Germanic faith. Hence why Saint Nicholas rides over the roofs on a horse in the Netherlands, a mutation of Odin riding through the sky on the back of his eight-legged horse Sleipnir.

Is there any evidence to this tale ? As far as I understand Dutch Santa had no companion until the 1850s or so - until a writer depicted him with a black servant. Who was human and consistently described as a "nikker" up till the 1950s.

In Austria, Saint Nicholas is accompanied by the Krampus, a character who retained his demonic characteristics quite a bit more than his sanitized Dutch brother Zwarte Piet.

[The Grims]

Is there any evidence to this tale ? As far as I understand Dutch Santa had no companion until the 1850s or so - until a writer depicted him with a black servant. Who was human and consistently described as a "nikker" up till the 1950s.

In Austria, Saint Nicholas is accompanied by the Krampus, a character who retained his demonic characteristics quite a bit more than his sanitized Dutch brother Zwarte Piet.

That's Austria. The Dutch did not have a Krampus tradition prior to the introduction of black Pete.

[Communist Xomaniax]

Nah, people can make Santa whatever they want. He's not real.