Katganistan wrote:Saiwania wrote:Well, from a Biblical perspective- it
was a woman who led Adam astray and brought original sin to our entire world.
Was poor widdle ickle Adam unable to say "No"?
Was he so weak and and stupid that just because Eve smiled at him he had to do what she said?
Or did he want to eat it too, then threw her under the bus with "It's her fault"?
1. According to the logic of the story, Eve ate the apple and gained knowledge of good and evil. Then told Adam to do the same while he still had no such knowledge of good and evil. While God is an asshole for telling people to not do something when they had no comprehension of why they should obey such an order and he knew that was the case, it is consistent with the logic of the story to think Eve "Knew" the morality of her action when she told Adam to eat the apple, and Adam didn't know the morality of it. You're then down to an AbrahamicVDarkMaterials interpretation of the action.
Either Eve did something blatantly evil that she knew to be evil (Corrupting an innocent), or, having gained Knowledge of Good and Evil, up and decided that God wasn't worth listening to anyway and was a jerk, and liberated Adam from his ignorance. Abrahamics believe the former, to some extent. (The very second a human being gained understanding of good and evil, their first act was to knowingly disobey god because he's an asshole, and the bible is merely a pack of lies told by a not-omnipotent merely powerful narcissistic deity)
2. It's probably a story about fucking and the snake and apples and so on is an allegory for penis and sex and so on. Especially as the punishment is their father figure saying; "Eve, y'all gonna get pregnant and its going to fucking hurt, Adam, get a fucking job." and throwing them out of the house, and the knowledge discussed is carnal knowledge. This makes Adams reaction interpretable in a number of ways. He could be throwing her under the bus for an act involving mutual consent in order to avoid the wrath of the father figure, or might not be, who knows. This also makes the story much more layered, since if it is intended as a double entendre, only Adults would understand the subtext and the "Knowledge" involved, whereas children would view the story literally, and only come to understand the story as they gain knowledge of sex. It's possible this subtext was lost over time. Notable is that Eve initiates the sex if this is the case. Given the morality of the time, Adam saying "It's her fault" in that context is consistent with beliefs at the time over men being unable to resist sex and so on, and makes the "Temptress" stuff make more sense. or it could be a rape thing, and likewise consistent with the beliefs of the time to ignore that happening to a guy.
This is probably why this goes unquestioned in the theology, if the subtext was understood for some time then it stands to reason nobody would point out until relatively recent times that what Adam did here was weird. It was understood by early commentators and theologians that it was indeed "Her fault" for "making" him have sex with her.
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