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Postby Katganistan » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:18 pm

Saiwania wrote:
New haven america wrote:He doesn't care, all he wants to do is get rid of the evilness that is women.


Well, from a Biblical perspective- it was a woman who led Adam astray and brought original sin to our entire world. ;)

Was poor widdle ickle Adam unable to say "No"?
Was he so weak and and stupid that just because Eve smiled at him he had to do what she said?

Or did he want to eat it too, then threw her under the bus with "It's her fault"? :p
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Postby Grenartia » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:19 pm

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Grenartia wrote:[And no, you are incorrect, SCOTUS settled the "is porn free speech?" question half a century ago. The answer is that it is.

For over a century before that pornography was not considered to be free speech, until some activist judges


"Activist judges" lolwat

decided to arbitrarily twist the constitution


It wasn't arbitrary, and it wasn't twisting.

to shoot down a perfectly legitimate law.


Nothing legitimate about it, and that's half the purpose of SCOTUS, is to decide what is and is not constitutional. The other half is being the final authority in the appeals process.

And even if free speech did include porn, perhaps it would be better not to have free speech at all.


That's petty as fuck, and a stupid idea to boot.
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Postby Grenartia » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:22 pm

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Klorgia1 wrote:You mean because there have definitely been no studies on rapists after getting out of prison who said they use porn as a release?


Why would you trust that their testimony was accurate?


Because people can be reformed?

Even if they did use it "as a release", there must be a healthier way to treat these people's psychological problems.


Porn is actually pretty fucking healthy. Antipornism is the only thing that's inherently unhealthy here.

Besides, if they are watching porn that could mean that the actors would effectively become the victims, due to the exploitation occurring in the industry.


The only inherent exploitation in porn is that which is inherent to capitalism itself. Which is why I don't consume mainstream porn.

Switching from direct victimization to indirect victimization is not really solving the problem.


Its not victimization if all parties involved are of legal age and have given informed and free consent.
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Postby Katganistan » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:27 pm

PR New England wrote:
Imperator Seven wrote:Personally, i think that its good to remove all that vile garbage from the site. hell, maybe it will become a decent site.
Also, its funny to laugh at the people going nuts about it.

Its what happens when you separate addicts from their high. Pornography is a drug. It is not speech. It needs to be banned.

:roll:

I'd say the 19th century is calling, but they had porn too.
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Postby Katganistan » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:36 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Grenartia wrote:[And no, you are incorrect, SCOTUS settled the "is porn free speech?" question half a century ago. The answer is that it is.

For over a century before that pornography was not considered to be free speech, until some activist judges decided to arbitrarily twist the constitution to shoot down a perfectly legitimate law. And even if free speech did include porn, perhaps it would be better not to have free speech at all.


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Postby Valgora » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:39 pm

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Grenartia wrote:[And no, you are incorrect, SCOTUS settled the "is porn free speech?" question half a century ago. The answer is that it is.

For over a century before that pornography was not considered to be free speech, until some activist judges decided to arbitrarily twist the constitution to shoot down a perfectly legitimate law. And even if free speech did include porn, perhaps it would be better not to have free speech at all.

"I don't like porn being free speech; therefore, free speech shouldn't exist."
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Postby Benuty » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:40 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Well, from a Biblical perspective- it was a woman who led Adam astray and brought original sin to our entire world. ;)

Was poor widdle ickle Adam unable to say "No"?
Was he so weak and and stupid that just because Eve smiled at him he had to do what she said?

Or did he want to eat it too, then threw her under the bus with "It's her fault"? :p

Yet Eve had the defense of being deceived while Adam had the choice to follow through or not...so not really sure why Eve gets as much blame as she does.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:47 pm

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Rezmaeristan wrote:I don't use porn(trying to quit that is) but...

Is Tumblr trying to commit suicide? How many people use Tumblr for porn? :rofl:


I hope you realize there's no reason to quit.

There are very good reasons to quit: stronger and more stable romantic relationships, boycotting a corrupt and exploitative industry, and becoming more spiritual. But maybe none of those things matters to you? In any case, I would consider these things very important.
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Postby Grenartia » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:07 pm

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I hope you realize there's no reason to quit.

There are very good reasons to quit: stronger and more stable romantic relationships,


Actually, the strongest and most stable relationships I've ever had were where my partners and I all openly enjoyed porn. It brought us closer together, if anything.

boycotting a corrupt and exploitative industry,


Go for amateur porn instead.

and becoming more spiritual.


Porn consumption and spirituality do not inherently conflict.
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Postby Valgora » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:12 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:boycotting a corrupt and exploitative industry,


Go for amateur porn instead.


Or the animated stuff.
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Postby Teachian » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:13 pm

Katganistan wrote: :roll:

I'd say the 19th century is calling, but they had porn too.


When it comes to stuff like porn, there’s really only two time periods:
A)The time when people produced, spread and enjoyed porn, despite government/groups’ opposition, and
B)The time when people produced, spread and enjoyed porn, despite government/group’s opposition but modern day people pretend they didn’t.

Idk, maybe there’s a third option where the government officially gets behind sexy-times, but it sure as hell ain’t one where the majority of humans weren’t being kinky af.
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Postby Myrensis » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:24 pm

Benuty wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Was poor widdle ickle Adam unable to say "No"?
Was he so weak and and stupid that just because Eve smiled at him he had to do what she said?

Or did he want to eat it too, then threw her under the bus with "It's her fault"? :p

Yet Eve had the defense of being deceived while Adam had the choice to follow through or not...so not really sure why Eve gets as much blame as she does.


Because 'boys will be boys' isn't exactly a modern concept.

Been a theme throughout history that obviously men can't help themselves, God/nature/whatever made them to be impetuous and aggressive and to lack self control, so it's clearly the fault of those dirty dirty sluts for leading them astray!

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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:33 pm

I mean, there is a reason that both of 'em got booted from the Garden, and it wasn't God being a dick vindictive being about it :p
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:22 pm

Katganistan wrote:Was poor widdle ickle Adam unable to say "No"?
Was he so weak and and stupid that just because Eve smiled at him he had to do what she said?

Or did he want to eat it too, then threw her under the bus with "It's her fault"? :p


There is no reason to hate women in general, in my view. But it can't be denied that women tend to hold quite a power over men for various reasons. It is perhaps the natural order of things. There is free will of course, but the temptation to cede ground is probably greater.

I find that there is such a thing as feminine wiles.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:48 am

Teachian wrote:
Katganistan wrote: :roll:

I'd say the 19th century is calling, but they had porn too.


When it comes to stuff like porn, there’s really only two time periods:
A)The time when people produced, spread and enjoyed porn, despite government/groups’ opposition, and
B)The time when people produced, spread and enjoyed porn, despite government/group’s opposition but modern day people pretend they didn’t.

Idk, maybe there’s a third option where the government officially gets behind sexy-times, but it sure as hell ain’t one where the majority of humans weren’t being kinky af.

People today are, in terms of general outlook, basically the same people that existed throughout all of human history. Some might say that the dawn of the Information Age resulted in sexual deviance (or whatever is currently destroying modern society while also somehow leaving it completely intact), but really, all that happened was that something that had always been there was now visible.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:31 am

Katganistan wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Well, from a Biblical perspective- it was a woman who led Adam astray and brought original sin to our entire world. ;)

Was poor widdle ickle Adam unable to say "No"?
Was he so weak and and stupid that just because Eve smiled at him he had to do what she said?

Or did he want to eat it too, then threw her under the bus with "It's her fault"? :p

Please, the most beautiful women in the world, standing naked in front of you with an apple says, "hey baby, eat this apple it will teach you things" seductively takes a bite and offers it to you... no guy is going to say ""No"

Personally I think she did it because she wanted a nice pair of shoes, open toed, 4 inch heels...
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Postby The Biggles Syndicate » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:49 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Well, from a Biblical perspective- it was a woman who led Adam astray and brought original sin to our entire world. ;)

Was poor widdle ickle Adam unable to say "No"?
Was he so weak and and stupid that just because Eve smiled at him he had to do what she said?

Or did he want to eat it too, then threw her under the bus with "It's her fault"? :p

How did we get from Tumblr banning porn to Genesis?
(and by the way, Eve manipulated Adam and told him he would receive great power from the apple, just like the serpent told her. we both know how that turned out...)
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Postby Katganistan » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:09 pm

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/12/4 ... ork-fandom

This article explains a lot more about the Tumblr situation -- and for those of you saying that it's 'all porn' -- I was unaware that 1% of the user base creating porn posts, and 22% of the user base reading it, was "all" or even "mostly".

https://www.vox.com/2018/12/4/18124120/ ... r-backlash

Hilariously, the platform marked its own announcement about the ban as being explicit. Tell you a bit about how well it does its own job.

Long story short: they want to monetize the site even more, and think that alienating the very people they want to make money from is going to double the number of daily users.

Good luck with that.
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Postby Katganistan » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:10 pm

The Biggles Syndicate wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Was poor widdle ickle Adam unable to say "No"?
Was he so weak and and stupid that just because Eve smiled at him he had to do what she said?

Or did he want to eat it too, then threw her under the bus with "It's her fault"? :p

How did we get from Tumblr banning porn to Genesis?
(and by the way, Eve manipulated Adam and told him he would receive great power from the apple, just like the serpent told her. we both know how that turned out...)


Ask Saiwania how we got here. (Nice to make it look like my response came out of nowhere and wasn't a reply to another post, thanks.)
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:11 pm

Katganistan wrote:
The Biggles Syndicate wrote:How did we get from Tumblr banning porn to Genesis?
(and by the way, Eve manipulated Adam and told him he would receive great power from the apple, just like the serpent told her. we both know how that turned out...)

So, you're saying that he could not say no, and was too weak and stupid to do what God said, because Eve told him different?

Because we all know a man would never say no to his wife
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Postby Katganistan » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:14 pm

Benuty wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Was poor widdle ickle Adam unable to say "No"?
Was he so weak and and stupid that just because Eve smiled at him he had to do what she said?

Or did he want to eat it too, then threw her under the bus with "It's her fault"? :p

Yet Eve had the defense of being deceived while Adam had the choice to follow through or not...so not really sure why Eve gets as much blame as she does.

She shouldn't have listened to the snake either, to be fair.
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