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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:04 pm

PR New England wrote:
Imperator Seven wrote:Personally, i think that its good to remove all that vile garbage from the site. hell, maybe it will become a decent site.
Also, its funny to laugh at the people going nuts about it.

Its what happens when you separate addicts from their high. Pornography is a drug. It is not speech. It needs to be banned.

Oddly, the people are having isn't that but when the thing is flagging every post that looks vaguely like it has skin shown, regardless of context. Also any posts complaining about the spectacularly bad bot flagging.

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Postby Japan and Pacific States » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:05 pm

We're going to ban all adult content
- Tumblr


Yeah from what I've seen that statement seems to be going well for them. They're going to toss possibly a quarter of their userbase off. Maybe over a quarter, I'll give it a generous 35% at the most. And I forget where I saw but their stocks are already falling like a tonne a bricks off the top of Big Ben. Seems like all's well I suppose.

Being sarcastic on the latter part, not intending to bait or flamebait or whatever, just my opinion

Still can't believe I have to add that disclaimer.
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PR New England
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Postby PR New England » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:06 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
PR New England wrote:Its what happens when you separate addicts from their high. Pornography is a drug. It is not speech. It needs to be banned.

Oddly, the people are having isn't that but when the thing is flagging every post that looks vaguely like it has skin shown, regardless of context. Also any posts complaining about the spectacularly bad bot flagging.

Why ban individual posts when you could specifically go after NSFW accounts. I believe that a ban on the distribution of works that have no purpose other than sexual titillation is the right choice and is in line with the first amendment. At the very least, ban it from being accessible for free online.
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Andsed
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Postby Andsed » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:07 pm

PR New England wrote:
Imperator Seven wrote:Personally, i think that its good to remove all that vile garbage from the site. hell, maybe it will become a decent site.
Also, its funny to laugh at the people going nuts about it.

Its what happens when you separate addicts from their high. Pornography is a drug. It is not speech. It needs to be banned.

Okay despite my jokes from before I don´t really care all that much for porn. But banning it is utterly ridiculous. It hurts basically no one and is a nice stress relief for many. Also this ban Tumblr is doing hurts all the artist there that don´t do that stuff and is going to make a large portion of Tumblr´s population go to different sites.
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PR New England
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Postby PR New England » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:10 pm

Andsed wrote:
PR New England wrote:Its what happens when you separate addicts from their high. Pornography is a drug. It is not speech. It needs to be banned.

Okay despite my jokes from before I don´t really care all that much for porn. But banning it is utterly ridiculous. It hurts basically no one and is a nice stress relief for many. Also this ban Tumblr is doing hurts all the artist there that don´t do that stuff and is going to make a large portion of Tumblr´s population go to different sites.

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/miscell ... days-porn/
It is a drug that should be unprotected by free speech.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:10 pm

PR New England wrote:
Imperator Seven wrote:Personally, i think that its good to remove all that vile garbage from the site. hell, maybe it will become a decent site.
Also, its funny to laugh at the people going nuts about it.

Its what happens when you separate addicts from their high. Pornography is a drug. It is not speech. It needs to be banned.

Actually according to medical Science porn isn’t addictive or a drug and according to SCOTUS porn is free speech
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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:11 pm

PR New England wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Oddly, the people are having isn't that but when the thing is flagging every post that looks vaguely like it has skin shown, regardless of context. Also any posts complaining about the spectacularly bad bot flagging.

Why ban individual posts when you could specifically go after NSFW accounts. I believe that a ban on the distribution of works that have no purpose other than sexual titillation is the right choice and is in line with the first amendment. At the very least, ban it from being accessible for free online.

I have no idea of their thought process, all I know is that their bot to ban porn stuff is systematically trashing several sfw fandom artists I follow.

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Postby Latin Islands » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:11 pm

And I thought safe mode would suffice. Back then it was easy to see adult content by just using a search engine then clicking on any Tumblr site listed in the results. Turns out that some don't seem to be contented with the safe mode activation. Plus, they decide to ban everything adult content when what they needed was stronger monitoring of illegal material like child porn.

Maybe they'll change their minds if this decision significantly decreases their web traffic (or if they realize it).
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Postby Freezic Vast » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:11 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
PR New England wrote:Its what happens when you separate addicts from their high. Pornography is a drug. It is not speech. It needs to be banned.

Actually according to medical Science porn isn’t addictive or a drug and according to SCOTUS porn is free speech

Porn is entertainment, just in a different way when someone watches TV/movies or plays video games.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:13 pm

PR New England wrote:
Andsed wrote:Okay despite my jokes from before I don´t really care all that much for porn. But banning it is utterly ridiculous. It hurts basically no one and is a nice stress relief for many. Also this ban Tumblr is doing hurts all the artist there that don´t do that stuff and is going to make a large portion of Tumblr´s population go to different sites.

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/miscell ... days-porn/
It is a drug that should be unprotected by free speech.

99.9% of that is bullshit. Porn isn’t a drug nor should it be. And even if it was it still shouldn’t be illegal.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:14 pm

PR New England wrote:
Andsed wrote:Okay despite my jokes from before I don´t really care all that much for porn. But banning it is utterly ridiculous. It hurts basically no one and is a nice stress relief for many. Also this ban Tumblr is doing hurts all the artist there that don´t do that stuff and is going to make a large portion of Tumblr´s population go to different sites.

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/miscell ... days-porn/
It is a drug that should be unprotected by free speech.

It is in no way a drug. Sure some may get to obsessed with it but it´s only purpose is arousing you and getting you to well you know(trying to not violate the pg-13 rules) Now I won´t deny the whole effects masturbation has in your brain as the release of chemicals it causes it what makes it so relieving. But to suggest that it makes you addicted is utterly ridiculous. The majority of people who use porn use it as a stress reliever and nothing else and then move on after finishing. Next you will be saying video games or sex are drugs.
I do be tired


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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:15 pm

Andsed wrote:
PR New England wrote:https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/miscell ... days-porn/
It is a drug that should be unprotected by free speech.

It is in no way a drug. Sure some may get to obsessed with it but it´s only purpose is arousing you and getting you to well you know(trying to not violate the pg-13 rules) Now I won´t deny the whole effects masturbation has in your brain as the release of chemicals it causes it what makes it so relieving. But to suggest that it makes you addicted is utterly ridiculous. The majority of people who use porn use it as a stress reliever and nothing else and then move on after finishing. Next you will be saying video games or sex are drugs.

And choking the chicken is very healthy for you too
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Postby PR New England » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:16 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
PR New England wrote:Its what happens when you separate addicts from their high. Pornography is a drug. It is not speech. It needs to be banned.

Actually according to medical Science porn isn’t addictive or a drug and according to SCOTUS porn is free speech

Do you know how easy it is to bribe scientists? All you need to do to come to the conclusion I made is look at how long the average relationship lasts today and the declining sperm count of males in the west. Many cultures and religions explicitly and specifically discourage chasing after lust. Under the logic that sex isn't a drug, this would be an evolutionary hindrance. The truth is that chasing after lust is wrong by many cultures because it harms both partners who, once they sink from their high, quickly abandon each other for the next high. Why else do you think that the fall of many civilizations has been preceded by periods of sexual deviance? The Romans before their fall, the Ottomans before their fall, Germany before the rise of Hitler, etc.
May 30, 1981: Clashes between black and white nationalists have been broken up by Louisiana police. President Dave Treen says that though the protest has been broken up and leaders on both sides have been arrested, there is still an environment of ethnic strife in Louisiana.

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Postby Imperator Seven » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:17 pm

The South Falls wrote:As long as they keep the SFW stuff, I'm alright. Go to a porn site if you want it. Tumblr's not the place for it...


If only we could stop the leftist-stereotype tumblrs


I mean, its pretty easy to combat theme meme-wise. just look at what happened to Gritty. The problem is convincing the level-headed individuals within the left that some of their ideals are ridiculous and unrealistic.

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Postby Andsed » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:17 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Andsed wrote:It is in no way a drug. Sure some may get to obsessed with it but it´s only purpose is arousing you and getting you to well you know(trying to not violate the pg-13 rules) Now I won´t deny the whole effects masturbation has in your brain as the release of chemicals it causes it what makes it so relieving. But to suggest that it makes you addicted is utterly ridiculous. The majority of people who use porn use it as a stress reliever and nothing else and then move on after finishing. Next you will be saying video games or sex are drugs.

And choking the chicken is very healthy for you too

Especially for your sex life as it helps you last longer before ¨finishing¨(again trying to follow pg-13 here as Reppy´s banhammer is quite big... No I´m not going to make a penis joke... you degenerate.)
I do be tired


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Postby PR New England » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:18 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Andsed wrote:It is in no way a drug. Sure some may get to obsessed with it but it´s only purpose is arousing you and getting you to well you know(trying to not violate the pg-13 rules) Now I won´t deny the whole effects masturbation has in your brain as the release of chemicals it causes it what makes it so relieving. But to suggest that it makes you addicted is utterly ridiculous. The majority of people who use porn use it as a stress reliever and nothing else and then move on after finishing. Next you will be saying video games or sex are drugs.

And choking the chicken is very healthy for you too

NPC's. Enjoy wasting all your good swimmers on socks and bed sheets while you ogle at pixels.
May 30, 1981: Clashes between black and white nationalists have been broken up by Louisiana police. President Dave Treen says that though the protest has been broken up and leaders on both sides have been arrested, there is still an environment of ethnic strife in Louisiana.

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Postby Andsed » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:19 pm

PR New England wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Actually according to medical Science porn isn’t addictive or a drug and according to SCOTUS porn is free speech

Do you know how easy it is to bribe scientists? All you need to do to come to the conclusion I made is look at how long the average relationship lasts today and the declining sperm count of males in the west. Many cultures and religions explicitly and specifically discourage chasing after lust. Under the logic that sex isn't a drug, this would be an evolutionary hindrance. The truth is that chasing after lust is wrong by many cultures because it harms both partners who, once they sink from their high, quickly abandon each other for the next high. Why else do you think that the fall of many civilizations has been preceded by periods of sexual deviance? The Romans before their fall, the Ottomans before their fall, Germany before the rise of Hitler, etc.

[citation needed]

Also no sexual deviancy did not cause the fall of Rome or the Ottomans and did not lead to the rise of Nazi Germany.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:21 pm

Imperator Seven wrote:
The South Falls wrote:As long as they keep the SFW stuff, I'm alright. Go to a porn site if you want it. Tumblr's not the place for it...


If only we could stop the leftist-stereotype tumblrs


I mean, its pretty easy to combat theme meme-wise. just look at what happened to Gritty. The problem is convincing the level-headed individuals within the left that some of their ideals are ridiculous and unrealistic.

No, I mean the ones that are like "a trans person can't commit rape because rape is about power".
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:22 pm

PR New England wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Actually according to medical Science porn isn’t addictive or a drug and according to SCOTUS porn is free speech

Do you know how easy it is to bribe scientists?

You need to lay off the conspiracy sites

All you need to do to come to the conclusion I made is look at how long the average relationship lasts today and the declining sperm count of males in the west.

Which has nothing to do with porn. Stress and bad diets actually lower sperm counts

Many cultures and religions explicitly and specifically discourage chasing after lust.

And?

Under the logic that sex isn't a drug, this would be an evolutionary hindrance. The truth is that chasing after lust is wrong by many cultures because it harms both partners who, once they sink from their high, quickly abandon each other for the next high.

Last time I checked not one of those cultures was the US culture and the constitution wasn’t replaced with a Bible

Why else do you think that the fall of many civilizations has been preceded by periods of sexual deviance? The Romans before their fall, the Ottomans before their fall, Germany before the rise of Hitler, etc.

Not one of those was caused by sex. Hell at lot of things like porn was illegal in Germany before Hitler. Maybe if the Germans had something to beat off too they wouldn’t have gone nuts
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:23 pm

PR New England wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Actually according to medical Science porn isn’t addictive or a drug and according to SCOTUS porn is free speech

Do you know how easy it is to bribe scientists? All you need to do to come to the conclusion I made is look at how long the average relationship lasts today and the declining sperm count of males in the west. Many cultures and religions explicitly and specifically discourage chasing after lust. Under the logic that sex isn't a drug, this would be an evolutionary hindrance. The truth is that chasing after lust is wrong by many cultures because it harms both partners who, once they sink from their high, quickly abandon each other for the next high. Why else do you think that the fall of many civilizations has been preceded by periods of sexual deviance? The Romans before their fall, the Ottomans before their fall, Germany before the rise of Hitler, etc.

Please, cite your sources. Prostitution was cracked down on hard even before Hitler. Oh, yea, sperm retention doesn't improve count. Good dieting, more exercise, etc increases sperm count. Also, cite sources that the average relationship breaks apart because of porn.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:23 pm

PR New England wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And choking the chicken is very healthy for you too

NPC's. Enjoy wasting all your good swimmers on socks and bed sheets while you ogle at pixels.

That’s not how it works. I’m a medic, sperm is constantly produced until you die.

Besides I’m gay so what do I care.
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Postby Imperator Seven » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:24 pm

New haven america wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:It's not "censorship". Private corporations can do anything they want with their platforms. Stop overusing the word censorship.

No, it's definitely censorship.



Its a private corporation. they have the right to do anything they want with their site. It may be censorship to you, but not to the general public.

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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:25 pm

PR New England wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And choking the chicken is very healthy for you too

NPC's. Enjoy wasting all your good swimmers on socks and bed sheets while you ogle at pixels.

*unironically using NPC's*

Also, it's not like you've got 582 wives that you fuck each night.

No offense, but it's statistically likely that you're currently single.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:26 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
PR New England wrote:NPC's. Enjoy wasting all your good swimmers on socks and bed sheets while you ogle at pixels.

That’s not how it works. I’m a medic, sperm is constantly produced until you die.

Besides I’m gay so what do I care.

Next, this guy is gonna denigrate you because you aren't impregnating women and producing heirs.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:27 pm

Censorship:

Suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient" as determined by a government or private institution,for example, corporate censorship.
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