Would you kill Hitler?

[Cameroi]

I’d be afraid of it backfiring. Somebody has to take his place as chancellor. What if it ends up being someone just as bad, but much better at war strategy? Then the alternate Nazi Germany would win, and I might not be able to get access to the time machine again to fix the timeline.

And then what about Italy and Japan? They had dictators during WWII too. Wouldn’t I need to kill them too?

there is also this. one person is the context of their circumstances.
the demise of one person, however much credit might be theirs for organizing a situation and circumstance, has no guarantee of changing it in any particular way.
life should be so simple.

i wouldn't be too worried about italy or japan, as much as goering and the rest of itler's "possy"

a king without his cadre, is just a nepoleon of bedlam. and his cadre, might very well produce a replacement.

[Valrifell]

Maybe all he needed was a good hug.

Or, y'know, someone to teach him that killing Jews is a bad idea...

There's actually quite a few theories that "explain" Hitler's antisemitism, one states that he started down that path when he was rejected by a Jewish girl in his youth.

So, basically, Hitler was an InCel.

[Cameroi]

Maybe all he needed was a good hug.

Or, y'know, someone to teach him that killing Jews is a bad idea...

or maybe, remove all evidence of his identity, paint a star of david on his back, and load him on the cattle car?

[Bombadil]

Maybe all he needed was a good hug.

Or, y'know, someone to teach him that killing Jews is a bad idea...

Yeah, a good hug and a little whisper in the ear about not killing Jews.

[Ifreann]

i would want to have seen him neutralized. whoever did the job would have to be someone willing to sacrafice their own life to do so.
because it would very probably cost that to achieve.

For most of his life Hitler was just an ordinary man. It wouldn't be especially dangerous or difficult to kill him before he was the leader of Nazi Germany.

And it would probably be easy to arrange for him to have killed himself. He almost did so after the Beer Hall Putsch failed, just find some way to keep the woman who intervened from being there at the time and Adolf Hitler becomes a footnote in history, the leader of a failed coup who committed suicide rather than be arrested for treason.

[Hrythingia]

i would want to have seen him neutralized. whoever did the job would have to be someone willing to sacrafice their own life to do so.
because it would very probably cost that to achieve.

For most of his life Hitler was just an ordinary man. It wouldn't be especially dangerous or difficult to kill him before he was the leader of Nazi Germany.

And it would probably be easy to arrange for him to have killed himself. He almost did so after the Beer Hall Putsch failed, just find some way to keep the woman who intervened from being there at the time and Adolf Hitler becomes a footnote in history, the leader of a failed coup who committed suicide rather than be arrested for treason.

Nah, ww2 provides some top tier banter material.

[Nolo gap]

Or, y'know, someone to teach him that killing Jews is a bad idea...

Yeah, a good hug and a little whisper in the ear about not killing Jews.

i'm all for trying that. just not taking for granted someone else wouldn't come along instead. you've got to take into account the conditions that gave rise to him.
maybe if one or two details of the conditions of the world war one armistice had been i little more different, more thoroughly and logically better thought out?

often its not just the one person who needs the hug.
all factors need to be considered, what conditions they create and what conditions those conditions create.
circumstances create niches. its the niches they create and how they do so, that we need to pay attention to, if we don't want to keep creating would be hitlers.

[Xmara]

Or, y'know, someone to teach him that killing Jews is a bad idea...

There's actually quite a few theories that "explain" Hitler's antisemitism, one states that he started down that path when he was rejected by a Jewish girl in his youth.

So, basically, Hitler was an InCel.

That's it

That explains everything

[The Two Jerseys]

Alternate idea: kidnap Baby Hitler, drop him off at a Jewish orphanage.

[Thermodolia]

Ya sure. In bring a bunch of MOSSAD agents with me as well.

[Thermodolia]

Maybe all he needed was a good hug.

Yes a good neck hug.

[Infected Mushroom]

To the minority who said they would kill Hitler, I ask of you:

“What has Hitler done to YOU?”

If nothing really then you’re saying you would murder without provocation

[Thermodolia]

To the minority who said they would kill Hitler, I ask of you:

“What has Hitler done to YOU?”

If nothing really then you’re saying you would murder without provocation

Killed 6 Million of my people. 36 million Jews would be alive today if the Holocaust never happened. And I think not having the technology we have now is a small price to pay for 36 million people.

[The Emerald Legion]

To the minority who said they would kill Hitler, I ask of you:

“What has Hitler done to YOU?”

If nothing really then you’re saying you would murder without provocation

Killed 6 Million of my people. 36 million Jews would be alive today if the Holocaust never happened. And I think not having the technology we have now is a small price to pay for 36 million people.

I mean, it's not like the Nazi's were particularly good at science, what with their constant murdering of scientists over that whole race thing.

The issue isn't 'We'd lose technology' the issue is 'The world wouldn't learn it's lesson at a fairly safe-ish stage of development' Now. Imagine Jerry The New Hitler comes along in 2020, in a Hitlerless world, nobody would know any better that fascism is bad. It'd just be some oddball ideology that Spain and Italy did at some point. Suddenly Death Camps, Nuking of racially impure countries, and other assorted nastiness but with better technology to do it.

All in all, learning that lesson then is better than learning that lesson now.

[Xmara]

Killed 6 Million of my people. 36 million Jews would be alive today if the Holocaust never happened. And I think not having the technology we have now is a small price to pay for 36 million people.

I mean, it's not like the Nazi's were particularly good at science, what with their constant murdering of scientists over that whole race thing.

Fortunately there were many Jewish scientists who escaped Nazi Europe and made it to the US and non-occupied Europe, including Albert Einstein and Niels Bohr.

Unfortunately there were also a lot who didn’t. Think of the advancements we could have had if they weren’t killed.

[Valrifell]

Killed 6 Million of my people. 36 million Jews would be alive today if the Holocaust never happened. And I think not having the technology we have now is a small price to pay for 36 million people.

I mean, it's not like the Nazi's were particularly good at science, what with their constant murdering of scientists over that whole race thing.

The issue isn't 'We'd lose technology' the issue is 'The world wouldn't learn it's lesson at a fairly safe-ish stage of development' Now. Imagine Jerry The New Hitler comes along in 2020, in a Hitlerless world, nobody would know any better that fascism is bad. It'd just be some oddball ideology that Spain and Italy did at some point. Suddenly Death Camps, Nuking of racially impure countries, and other assorted nastiness but with better technology to do it.

All in all, learning that lesson then is better than learning that lesson now.

You're starting with the idea that a Hitler is inevitable and working backwards to derive a worst-case scenerio.

What would most likely happen is that eugenics would peter out through protest movements that were all the rage in the 20s and 30s and would've likely continued beyond. Also, do note that racial purity was an aspect unique to Nazism, Mussolini's Fascism just called for perpetual warfare and the like.

All-in-all, we're more likely to suffer from a longer depression than anything.

[The Liberated Territories]

I'd adopt him as my son and teach him to become a famous artist.

[Duhon]

I'll have to respond to this more fully later, but:

Joyfully. Oh, I shall exult as I dismember him, I shall exult his death, so, so much --

-- and then there are the rest --

[Nettunia]

Whatever did this guy even do to make everyone so upset at him anyway?


But in seriousness no, I wouldn't kill him cause I wouldn't kill anyone ever. I may try to boycott his political carreer though. From the shadows mind you, I don't wanna get stabbed.

[Australian rePublic]

Also, do note that racial purity was an aspect unique to Nazism,

No, it wasn't. The NAZIs might have been unique amongst the facists, but the concept of racial purity pre-dates the NAZIs by centuries. Everything from the African slave trade to the horrible treatment of natives during colonisation were justified by racial purity/superiority. You're acting as if the NAZIs were the only people in the world to commit genocide, and that couldn't be futher from the truth. The difference is that the NAZIs took things ridiculously too far, causing the world to wake up and see how horrible these things are

[The Free Joy State]

Maybe all he needed was a good hug.

Or, y'know, someone to teach him that killing Jews is a bad idea...

If you're being non-violent, you could go back in time, take him from his family and give him to a nice adoptive family -- one who'd been carefully vetted and would raise him to respect people and who'd have the money to get him some decent art tuition (reducing the chance of him failing and becoming embittered).

Of course, if I was going to actually kill Hitler, I'd do it at an early rally -- when he was surrounded by a lot of the top Nazi leadership. Perhaps in the mid-1920s (after the failed Beer Hall Putsch, but before the Nazis had any real influence in parliament). The Nazi Party would have just been a footnote in German history (like the group that attempted a right-wing coup in Berlin in the 1920/21 -- how many people remember that?).

Would I actually do it? Probably not, because there's a chance another group or individual may come along -- possibly later, although maybe not because the Nazis didn't have a monopoly on their hateful ideology at the time -- and do equally heinous things. They could have been a better tactician, or someone who was not a prolific drug user. In short, someone even worse could come along, in a world that was unprepared for it.

Though, if I knew no-one worse would come along, I'd would be tempted to get rid of him.. At least, it would be tempting to neutralise the threat through non-violent means.

[Firaxin]

I would not kill hitler, it is not in my authority to decide another's end, and this is only knowing he will not change before death. If I did know that he would not repent, then I'd likely denounce those who would kill him even if he still commited the act, because no soul should be adandoned.

[Nimzonia]

I would probably use the time machine to kill all the idiots trying to use their time machines to change history.

[Democratic Deutschland]

Unfortunately, no.

There could be a lot of Time Complications, and going back in time to kill Hitler could create a never-ending Paradox.

While Hitler was a really evil Guy, there's no telling how many more people would die just because someone killed him.

[Infected Mushroom]

Or, y'know, someone to teach him that killing Jews is a bad idea...

If you're being non-violent, you could go back in time, take him from his family and give him to a nice adoptive family -- one who'd been carefully vetted and would raise him to respect people and who'd have the money to get him some decent art tuition (reducing the chance of him failing and becoming embittered).

Of course, if I was going to actually kill Hitler, I'd do it at an early rally -- when he was surrounded by a lot of the top Nazi leadership. Perhaps in the mid-1920s (after the failed Beer Hall Putsch, but before the Nazis had any real influence in parliament). The Nazi Party would have just been a footnote in German history (like the group that attempted a right-wing coup in Berlin in the 1920/21 -- how many people remember that?).

Would I actually do it? Probably not, because there's a chance another group or individual may come along -- possibly later, although maybe not because the Nazis didn't have a monopoly on their hateful ideology at the time -- and do equally heinous things. They could have been a better tactician, or someone who was not a prolific drug user. In short, someone even worse could come along, in a world that was unprepared for it.

Though, if I knew no-one worse would come along, I'd would be tempted to get rid of him.. At least, it would be tempting to neutralise the threat through non-violent means.

THEY WERE ALL ON DRUGS?!!!!

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