Would you kill Hitler?

[Infected Mushroom]

I mean my position is straightforward. Murder is only an option for me if it’s to avenge a personal wrong.

I’m not going to kill him for the sake of other people. There are higher priority targets if I had such a time travel/get out of jail card.

I mean, with a time machine you have literally all the time in the world.

But murdering such a person wouldn’t make sense with my personal moral code

How does it fit into the smite my ennemies and reward my allies paradigm?

He can’t be my ennemy if he’s never harmed me

[Hrythingia]

So your country was not affected in any way shape or form? And does not your basic humanity incline you to despise someone who caused so much deliberate carnage?

I only despise people who cause me personal wrong/harm

Any harm before I even exist is treated by me as largely theoretical

I don’t despise him anymore then I despise Mao, Stalin or Churchill

They’re just politicians playing with lives; there’s a difference in scales though

Despise Churchill? oi

[Infected Mushroom]

If I did then I would murder a person who did me no personal wrong???

Depending on the person, you’d certainly feel some measure of distaste, yes.

Distaste is not cause enough for me to want to kill

I don’t operate on Dexter principles

[Alvecia]

I mean, with a time machine you have literally all the time in the world.

But murdering such a person wouldn’t make sense with my personal moral code

How does it fit into the smite my ennemies and reward my allies paradigm?

He can’t be my ennemy if he’s never harmed me

Sit down, cause this is going to be a helluva relegation, but sometimes, people do things for others, even if it doesn’t directly benefit themselves.
Wild, right?

[Ifreann]

I mean, with a time machine you have literally all the time in the world.

But murdering such a person wouldn’t make sense with my personal moral code

How does it fit into the smite my ennemies and reward my allies paradigm?

He can’t be my ennemy if he’s never harmed me

You don't have enemies. Or allies, for that matter.

[Infected Mushroom]

But murdering such a person wouldn’t make sense with my personal moral code

How does it fit into the smite my ennemies and reward my allies paradigm?

He can’t be my ennemy if he’s never harmed me

Sit down, cause this is going to be a helluva relegation, but sometimes, people do things for others, even if it doesn’t directly benefit themselves.
Wild, right?

Murder is where a new line is crossed

I do favors and help people, but not if it involves unprovoked murder in an individual capacity

[Alvecia]

Depending on the person, you’d certainly feel some measure of distaste, yes.

Distaste is not cause enough for me to want to kill

I don’t operate on Dexter principles

Depends on the level of distaste. Besides, it’s not the killing him that’s important, it the caring about it enough to do something, regardless of what that something is.

[Infected Mushroom]

Distaste is not cause enough for me to want to kill

I don’t operate on Dexter principles

Depends on the level of distaste. Besides, it’s not the killing him that’s important, it the caring about it enough to do something, regardless of what that something is.

I honestly feel the Allies (through Versailles) were more of a causal factor for WWII and the Holocaust then Hitler personally

Killing Hitler would also miss the point

[Alvecia]

Sit down, cause this is going to be a helluva relegation, but sometimes, people do things for others, even if it doesn’t directly benefit themselves.
Wild, right?

Murder is where a new line is crossed

I do favors and help people, but not if it involves unprovoked murder in an individual capacity

Kill one person or let millions die. When you strip it of all its fancy coverings, the Hitler question is just another variation of the Trolley Problem.
Most people, in that situation, would choose that which saves the most lives.

[Estanglia]

What if it turns out that Jesus is another time traveler. What then?

One better. What if it turns out you're Jesus?

Wait.

So, if you're also a Christian...

You'd be worshipping yourself.

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Unless I would be able to survive any time I change the timeline, even if I shouldn't exist, or I knew what would happen if I killed Hitler, I wouldn't kill him.

[Alvecia]

Depends on the level of distaste. Besides, it’s not the killing him that’s important, it the caring about it enough to do something, regardless of what that something is.

I honestly feel the Allies (through Versailles) were more of a causal factor for WWII and the Holocaust then Hitler personally

Killing Hitler would also miss the point

Sounds like a deflection to me

[The Blaatschapen]

Murder is where a new line is crossed

I do favors and help people, but not if it involves unprovoked murder in an individual capacity

Kill one person or let millions die. When you strip it of all its fancy coverings, the Hitler question is just another variation of the Trolley Problem.
Most people, in that situation, would choose that which saves the most lives.

New target, travel back in time and kill the inventor of the Trolley problem.

[Infected Mushroom]

Murder is where a new line is crossed

I do favors and help people, but not if it involves unprovoked murder in an individual capacity

Kill one person or let millions die. When you strip it of all its fancy coverings, the Hitler question is just another variation of the Trolley Problem.
Most people, in that situation, would choose that which saves the most lives.

On principle I do not kill people if they have not wronged and/or slighted me personally

I’m not going to break this rule for total strangers

[Ifreann]

Depends on the level of distaste. Besides, it’s not the killing him that’s important, it the caring about it enough to do something, regardless of what that something is.

I honestly feel the Allies (through Versailles) were more of a causal factor for WWII and the Holocaust then Hitler personally

You're wrong, though.

[Alvecia]

Kill one person or let millions die. When you strip it of all its fancy coverings, the Hitler question is just another variation of the Trolley Problem.
Most people, in that situation, would choose that which saves the most lives.

New target, travel back in time and kill the inventor of the Trolley problem.

“Why did you kill her?”
“She invented the Trolley Problem”
“The what?”
“Oh, you see, it’s this thought experiment involving.....”

[The Blaatschapen]

New target, travel back in time and kill the inventor of the Trolley problem.

“Why did you kill him?”
“He invented the Trolley Problem”
“The what?”
“Oh, you see, it’s this thought experiment involving.....”

The inventor is a woman.

So her instead of him.

[Hrythingia]

Depends on the level of distaste. Besides, it’s not the killing him that’s important, it the caring about it enough to do something, regardless of what that something is.

I honestly feel the Allies (through Versailles) were more of a causal factor for WWII and the Holocaust then Hitler personally

Killing Hitler would also miss the point

What....

Versailles was lenient. Most countries that get beaten in total wars get wiped off the map mate. Germany got off lucky. The allies had nothing to do with the holocaust...? Are you a numpty?

[Alvecia]

Kill one person or let millions die. When you strip it of all its fancy coverings, the Hitler question is just another variation of the Trolley Problem.
Most people, in that situation, would choose that which saves the most lives.

On principle I do not kill people if they have not wronged and/or slighted me personally

I’m not going to break this rule for total strangers

Which brings us back round to the start. Makes you pretty unempathetic.
Of course, I’m the generous type, and am more of the opinion that this is just a lie you tell yourself, and that faced with the actual scenario, you’d choose much like we all would.

[Alvecia]

“Why did you kill him?”
“He invented the Trolley Problem”
“The what?”
“Oh, you see, it’s this thought experiment involving.....”

The inventor is a woman.

So her instead of him.

So noted

[Ifreann]

On principle I do not kill people if they have not wronged and/or slighted me personally

I’m not going to break this rule for total strangers

Which brings us back round to the start. Makes you pretty unempathetic.
Of course, I’m the generous type, and am more of the opinion that this is just a lie you tell yourself, and that faced with the actual scenario, you’d choose much like we all would.

I'm telling you, he doesn't want to kill Hitler because he's convinced that it's necessary for WWII to happen for his favourite movies and TV shows to exist.

[The Blaatschapen]

Which brings us back round to the start. Makes you pretty unempathetic.
Of course, I’m the generous type, and am more of the opinion that this is just a lie you tell yourself, and that faced with the actual scenario, you’d choose much like we all would.

I'm telling you, he doesn't want to kill Hitler because he's convinced that it's necessary for WWII to happen for his favourite movies and TV shows to exist.

I want to kill Hitler so that the Babelsberg studios would rival Hollywoods.

[The New California Republic]

I honestly feel the Allies (through Versailles) were more of a causal factor for WWII and the Holocaust then Hitler personally

Nah.

Killing Hitler would also miss the point

Why?

[Major-Tom]

If I suddenly found myself with access to a time machine, I'd be convinced that I'd finally gone totally mad.

[The Blaatschapen]

If I suddenly found myself with access to a time machine, I'd be convinced that I'd finally gone totally mad.

The rest of don't need require that level of proof though

[Washington Resistance Army]

No because that choice could Butterfly into all sorts of other things.