Harry Potter Scenario

[The New California Republic]

As an aside, I think if Hogwarts was actually real they'd likely let muggles be on the teaching staff, to teach subjects that are perhaps connected with magic but do not actually require the use of magic. Perhaps a history course related to the development and uses of magic, for example? Or the ethics of magic?

As for this specific scenario, I'd let them go, yes.

[Ifreann]

As an aside, I think if Hogwarts was actually real they'd likely let muggles be on the teaching staff, to teach subjects that are perhaps connected with magic but do not actually require the use of magic. Perhaps a history course related to the development and uses of magic, for example? Or the ethics of magic?

As for this specific scenario, I'd let them go, yes.

Somehow I can't see the society that hides its very existence from wider humanity lest they be called upon to help Muggles with their problems would be very accepting of Muggles in any kind of position of authority over their children.

[The New California Republic]

As an aside, I think if Hogwarts was actually real they'd likely let muggles be on the teaching staff, to teach subjects that are perhaps connected with magic but do not actually require the use of magic. Perhaps a history course related to the development and uses of magic, for example? Or the ethics of magic?

As for this specific scenario, I'd let them go, yes.

Somehow I can't see the society that hides its very existence from wider humanity lest they be called upon to help Muggles with their problems would be very accepting of Muggles in any kind of position of authority over their children.

I think I see the fellow traveller thing from real life, and imagine that it'd play out in a similar way if Hogwarts was real, that if someone displayed an aptitude for teaching the subject and seemed committed to the theory of magic then they might be given a chance.

[Ifreann]

Somehow I can't see the society that hides its very existence from wider humanity lest they be called upon to help Muggles with their problems would be very accepting of Muggles in any kind of position of authority over their children.

I think I see the fellow traveller thing from real life, and imagine that it'd play out in a similar way if Hogwarts was real, that if someone displayed an aptitude for teaching the subject and seemed committed to the theory of magic then they might be given a chance.

Wizarding society, as presented in the books, is very discriminatory and anti-Muggle. I don't think we see any suggestion that anyone in Wizarding Britain sees Muggles as real people, as thinking, feeling, equally sapient beings. The good characters think it is wrong to torture and kill them for sport, but that's about the extent of it. No one, as I recall, objects in the slightest to how Muggles are routinely subjected to magical assault whenever that is convenient to wizards. Hermione, one of the heroes of the story, the girl who starts a campaign advocating for the rights of House Elves, erases all knowledge of her own existence from her parents' minds when she wants to wander around Britain looking for Horcruxes. That is how little she respects her Muggle parents after a few short years living among wizards.

Maybe someone would hire a Muggle to teach, as you say, History of Magic or the like, but I would expect that to be taken, at best, just as badly as when Dumbledore hired a werewolf, or when it came out that he'd hired a half-giant. Probably even worse.

[The Two Jerseys]

Try exorcism.

Pray the magic away, y'all wizards need Jesus!

I'd murder them in a blind, jealous rage probably.

Now it looks like an IM scenario

Anyway I’d exploit the magic for wealth and thrills

Yesterday I was seriously tempted to reply "have the Mafia Queen kill them"...

[Dumb Ideologies]

If the kid gets into Gryffindor or Hufflepuff, disown.

If the kid gets into Slytherin or Ravenclaw, they've got secret abilities and are smart enough to use them in a way that they mightn't get caught. Very useful.

Investing in a child is a great gamble in cost terms, this way by 11 I know whether to cut my losses. Great news.

[The Blaatschapen]

If the kid gets into Gryffindor or Hufflepuff, disown.

If the kid gets into Slytherin or Ravenclaw, they've got secret abilities and are smart enough to use them in a way that they mightn't get caught. Very useful.

Investing in a child is a great gamble in cost terms, this way by 11 I know whether to cut my losses. Great news.

What's wrong with Hufflepuff?

They're loyal to a fault. Abuse that for personal gain

[Diopolis]

If the kid gets into Gryffindor or Hufflepuff, disown.

If the kid gets into Slytherin or Ravenclaw, they've got secret abilities and are smart enough to use them in a way that they mightn't get caught. Very useful.

Investing in a child is a great gamble in cost terms, this way by 11 I know whether to cut my losses. Great news.

What's wrong with Hufflepuff?

They're loyal to a fault. Abuse that for personal gain

And nobody suspects a hufflepuff of anything.

[Auristania]

I won't send my children. I would send them to Durmstrang or Beauxbatons.

Dumbledore don't care about the safety of children and he deliberately hires an incompetent faculty.

[Ithreland]

I've seen the Super Carlin Brother's video on the wizard/muggle monetary exchange rate.
Kiddo would be magic during the school year and subtly reap the rewards the rest of the year.
Several charities would get ridiculous donations and I'd have to be on the phone with Valve/Steam to explain that I'm not doing anything illegal to get this much money.
I'd open an orphanage, buy politicians until abortion is illegal, and pay people to give me their unwanted children. Squibs from my program would be paid to be surrogates/sperm donors and I would hire scientists to quietly do the math on the genes until I could make everybody magic.
Everybody is magic, no more world hunger, and I have spells that turn animals into objects outlawed because it's really freaking unfair.

[The New California Republic]

I think I see the fellow traveller thing from real life, and imagine that it'd play out in a similar way if Hogwarts was real, that if someone displayed an aptitude for teaching the subject and seemed committed to the theory of magic then they might be given a chance.

Wizarding society, as presented in the books, is very discriminatory and anti-Muggle. I don't think we see any suggestion that anyone in Wizarding Britain sees Muggles as real people, as thinking, feeling, equally sapient beings. The good characters think it is wrong to torture and kill them for sport, but that's about the extent of it. No one, as I recall, objects in the slightest to how Muggles are routinely subjected to magical assault whenever that is convenient to wizards. Hermione, one of the heroes of the story, the girl who starts a campaign advocating for the rights of House Elves, erases all knowledge of her own existence from her parents' minds when she wants to wander around Britain looking for Horcruxes. That is how little she respects her Muggle parents after a few short years living among wizards.

Maybe someone would hire a Muggle to teach, as you say, History of Magic or the like, but I would expect that to be taken, at best, just as badly as when Dumbledore hired a werewolf, or when it came out that he'd hired a half-giant. Probably even worse.

Yes, in hindsight "the bigoted arsehole" did tend to be the norm in the Harry Potter universe.

[Rio Cana]

Home schooling when it comes to the magic part. Public schooling for there education. And if they go amock with the magic then strip there magic by putting it into an amulet. Then sell the amulet on ebay.

[Auze]

I've seen the Super Carlin Brother's video on the wizard/muggle monetary exchange rate.
Kiddo would be magic during the school year and subtly reap the rewards the rest of the year.
Several charities would get ridiculous donations and I'd have to be on the phone with Valve/Steam to explain that I'm not doing anything illegal to get this much money.
I'd open an orphanage, buy politicians until abortion is illegal, and pay people to give me their unwanted children. Squibs from my program would be paid to be surrogates/sperm donors and I would hire scientists to quietly do the math on the genes until I could make everybody magic.
Everybody is magic, no more world hunger, and I have spells that turn animals into objects outlawed because it's really freaking unfair.

This is best idea

[Saiwania]

No one, as I recall, objects in the slightest to how Muggles are routinely subjected to magical assault whenever that is convenient to wizards. Hermione, one of the heroes of the story, the girl who starts a campaign advocating for the rights of House Elves, erases all knowledge of her own existence from her parents' minds when she wants to wander around Britain looking for Horcruxes. That is how little she respects her Muggle parents after a few short years living among wizards.

Hermoine did what she did to protect her parents from harm and to ensure that they'd be fine without her, if Voldemort won. So far as the Wizarding world being anti-Muggle goes, I think "give me a break." Its clear to me anyways that No-Majs were (for a time anyways) able to pose some threat to Wizards in that they aren't completely defenseless, which is supposedly why the Wizarding world chose to conceal itself like it is. In a direct fight the Wizarding world doesn't appear to be able to fully conquer the non-magical world.

Despite having no magic, Muggles were able to persecute Witches and Wizards during medieval times and the trend for No-Maj weaponry was to only become deadlier over time. I don't expect a gun to be able to kill Wizards but if Wizards are caught by surprise in something like an ambush, I can see it temporarily incapacitating them or forcing a retreat. The risk of a No-Maj pulling out a gun and shooting at them is probably much greater in the US than would be the case in the UK or any part of Europe.

[The Emerald Legion]

I'd be worried about Rowling retroactively changing my child's sexual orientation, gender identity, race, or religion, but on the other hand this could be my in to get the Wizarding world to come out of the closet and integrate into wider society and use their magic to help the whole world instead of just themselves.

One look at Donald Trump and they'd tell you your crazy to expect them to leave their secluded world.

Though, that drives a good question. You know how the British Minister of Magic has to tell the Muggle British Prime Minister about important things that might effect Muggles; such as the Quidditch world cup, bringing dangerous magical animals into the country, breakouts from Azkbaban, etc. Mainly as a courtesy of course, since the Muggle Prime Minister can't stop them, but it's a polite thought. Also a meeting between the two to meet each other whenever either one is newly elected.

My question is how would Donald Trump react to the President of MACUSA coming into the Oval office from a portrait in the wall to either meet him for the first time or meeting him again to tell him some important news. How would Trump respond/handle it? I imagine he'd run his bloody mouth and try telling the world about wizards.

I mean, if their portrayal in the Fantastic Beasts series is any indication, MACUSA is fucking nuts and 11000x more racist against the No-Maj. I very much doubt they care to inform him.

[Ifreann]

Wizarding society, as presented in the books, is very discriminatory and anti-Muggle. I don't think we see any suggestion that anyone in Wizarding Britain sees Muggles as real people, as thinking, feeling, equally sapient beings. The good characters think it is wrong to torture and kill them for sport, but that's about the extent of it. No one, as I recall, objects in the slightest to how Muggles are routinely subjected to magical assault whenever that is convenient to wizards. Hermione, one of the heroes of the story, the girl who starts a campaign advocating for the rights of House Elves, erases all knowledge of her own existence from her parents' minds when she wants to wander around Britain looking for Horcruxes. That is how little she respects her Muggle parents after a few short years living among wizards.

Maybe someone would hire a Muggle to teach, as you say, History of Magic or the like, but I would expect that to be taken, at best, just as badly as when Dumbledore hired a werewolf, or when it came out that he'd hired a half-giant. Probably even worse.

Yes, in hindsight "the bigoted arsehole" did tend to be the norm in the Harry Potter universe.

The secret real villain of the Harry Potter universe is the Tory writing it all.

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No one, as I recall, objects in the slightest to how Muggles are routinely subjected to magical assault whenever that is convenient to wizards. Hermione, one of the heroes of the story, the girl who starts a campaign advocating for the rights of House Elves, erases all knowledge of her own existence from her parents' minds when she wants to wander around Britain looking for Horcruxes. That is how little she respects her Muggle parents after a few short years living among wizards.

Hermoine did what she did to protect her parents from harm and to ensure that they'd be fine without her, if Voldemort won.

Instead of talking to her parents and explaining what's happening and having them involved in decisions about their own safety, Hermione decides herself what's best and does it. Doesn't really signal any kind of mutual respect

So far as the Wizarding world being anti-Muggle goes, I think "give me a break." Its clear to me anyways that No-Majs were (for a time anyways) able to pose some threat to Wizards in that they aren't completely defenseless, which is supposedly why the Wizarding world chose to conceal itself like it is. In a direct fight the Wizarding world doesn't appear to be able to fully conquer the non-magical world.

Despite having no magic, Muggles were able to persecute Witches and Wizards during medieval times and the trend for No-Maj weaponry was to only become deadlier over time. I don't expect a gun to be able to kill Wizards

Of course a gun could kill a wizard. Wizards aren't bulletproof.

but if Wizards are caught by surprise in something like an ambush, I can see it temporarily incapacitating them or forcing a retreat. The risk of a No-Maj pulling out a gun and shooting at them is probably much greater in the US than would be the case in the UK or any part of Europe.

None of this responds to the points I raised about the attitudes towards Muggles demonstrated in the books. I didn't actually talk about Wizarding society keeping itself secret in the post you're responding to.

[Infected Mushroom]

I've seen the Super Carlin Brother's video on the wizard/muggle monetary exchange rate.
Kiddo would be magic during the school year and subtly reap the rewards the rest of the year.
Several charities would get ridiculous donations and I'd have to be on the phone with Valve/Steam to explain that I'm not doing anything illegal to get this much money.
I'd open an orphanage, buy politicians until abortion is illegal, and pay people to give me their unwanted children. Squibs from my program would be paid to be surrogates/sperm donors and I would hire scientists to quietly do the math on the genes until I could make everybody magic.
Everybody is magic, no more world hunger, and I have spells that turn animals into objects outlawed because it's really freaking unfair.

This is best idea

My childhood is being politicized/destroyed

please stop =(

[Saiwania]

I mean, if their portrayal in the Fantastic Beasts series is any indication, MACUSA is fucking nuts and 11000x more racist against the No-Maj. I very much doubt they care to inform him.

This lore would arguably make sense if it were somewhat common for No-Majs in the US to be able to severely injure and occasionally kill Wizards with guns. It probably depends on how long it takes for someone to die from gunshot wounds. Wizards have potions and etc. to recover from getting shot but if they're by themselves and suffer a head shot, perhaps they'd really die.

Wizards have plenty of reasons for perhaps wanting to keep their existence a secret. Its to protect No-Majs from them but also to protect them from No-Majs, so far as is possible. They have the anti-magic persecution to point to when it was the case that No-Majs were aware of the existence of witchcraft to some extent during the medieval centuries.

It appears to me anyways, that American wizards have even more cause to be afraid of No-Majs given the kinds of warfare and weaponry that're available to us. The "sex scandal" reason that is currently being offered as canon for MACUSA's attitudes, I don't think is any good. Just not impressed with that reasoning by JK Rowling. Its her story though.

[Ifreann]

This is best idea

My childhood is being politicized/destroyed

please stop =(

Exactly what about that post upsets you?

[The Blaatschapen]

I've seen the Super Carlin Brother's video on the wizard/muggle monetary exchange rate.
Kiddo would be magic during the school year and subtly reap the rewards the rest of the year.
Several charities would get ridiculous donations and I'd have to be on the phone with Valve/Steam to explain that I'm not doing anything illegal to get this much money.
I'd open an orphanage, buy politicians until abortion is illegal, and pay people to give me their unwanted children. Squibs from my program would be paid to be surrogates/sperm donors and I would hire scientists to quietly do the math on the genes until I could make everybody magic.
Everybody is magic, no more world hunger, and I have spells that turn animals into objects outlawed because it's really freaking unfair.

If Everybody is magic, and friendship is magic, then everybody is friends

[New haven america]

I've seen the Super Carlin Brother's video on the wizard/muggle monetary exchange rate.
Kiddo would be magic during the school year and subtly reap the rewards the rest of the year.
Several charities would get ridiculous donations and I'd have to be on the phone with Valve/Steam to explain that I'm not doing anything illegal to get this much money.
I'd open an orphanage, buy politicians until abortion is illegal, and pay people to give me their unwanted children. Squibs from my program would be paid to be surrogates/sperm donors and I would hire scientists to quietly do the math on the genes until I could make everybody magic.
Everybody is magic, no more world hunger, and I have spells that turn animals into objects outlawed because it's really freaking unfair.

If Everybody is magic, and friendship is magic, then everybody is friends

Eh, depends on your blood purity.

[The Blaatschapen]

If Everybody is magic, and friendship is magic, then everybody is friends

Eh, depends on your blood purity.

Then I have nothing to worry about, mine is A+

[Dumb Ideologies]

I'm a talking sheep. If I were non magical and one of my brethren were, I'd probably roll my eyes and eat some more grass.

A magical lamb wouldn't even be allowed into Hogwarts as a familiar. You'd be heading for a civil rights war and a Worms-esque scenario of great sheep legions jumping the Hogwarts towers and detonating themselves.

[Infected Mushroom]

I'm a talking sheep. If I were non magical and one of my brethren were, I'd probably roll my eyes and eat some more grass.

A magical lamb wouldn't even be allowed into Hogwarts as a familiar. You'd be heading for a civil rights war and a Worms-esque scenario of great sheep legions jumping the Hogwarts towers and detonating themselves.

I believe talking sheep would be considered a strange Reverse Animagus Phenomenon; you wouldn't be allowed into Hogwarts until/if you figured out how to use Animagi techniques to turn yourself Human.

It would be werewolf discrimination times 2000

you'd literally be expected to know advanced magic to earn the right to learn basic magic

[Infected Mushroom]

If Everybody is magic, and friendship is magic, then everybody is friends

Eh, depends on your blood purity.

it is true, even with Voldemort's defeat, if your blood isn't pure, in many of the highest circles you won't get very far

Harry Potter and his friends are an exception because of their unique history and the wheels can be said to be turning to some extent, but it would be a mistake to think that Purity is no longer relevant