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How would you react to having a Witch/Wizard in your family if you're non-magical?

Embrace their magic, be supportive.
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Hesitantly accept their magic and let them go.
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14%
Let them decide what they want to do.
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17%
Ignore the letter(s) or actively try to prevent contact with Wizarding world.
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No votes
"We're going away, far away. Where they can't find us!"
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Total votes : 59

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:02 pm

New haven america wrote:
Bering wrote:And the fact that that's probably one of their lesser problems speaks volumes of at least UK wizarding society.

Like how poverty and homelessness still somehow exists in the wizarding community even though they're capable of making interiors over 10x their size? Or how you could theoretically trade regular money for wizard money and get rich off of the trade off (Seriously, Rowling has never covered how this could be prevented)? Or the rampant racism going on in the community (With a school who's system seemingly encourages it)? Etc...


I think Pottermore said it’s illegal to deal in Muggle currency

Also that there are things that magic can’t create out of thin air (food being one of them)
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:02 pm

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
sort of

however, pure blood status is celebrated (even though it maybe implies more inbreeding)

The great wizarding house of Hatfield and the rival wizard house McCoy.


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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:05 pm

Ifreann wrote:I'd be worried about Rowling retroactively changing my child's sexual orientation, gender identity, race, or religion, but on the other hand this could be my in to get the Wizarding world to come out of the closet and integrate into wider society and use their magic to help the whole world instead of just themselves.


That would be a breach of the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy

Your kid (and maybe even you) could be thrown into Azkaban. Or whatever the Irish equivalent of Azkaban is (unless they are also ruled by the British Ministry)
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:10 pm

New haven america wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Was there a Wizarding version of decolonization/American Revolution?

No idea.

And looking at the Fantastic Beasts series, I don't think Rowling has any either.

IIRC, it was mentioned in the first movie. The wizards decided not to go to war; but they did split.
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Postby Heloin » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:10 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'd be worried about Rowling retroactively changing my child's sexual orientation, gender identity, race, or religion, but on the other hand this could be my in to get the Wizarding world to come out of the closet and integrate into wider society and use their magic to help the whole world instead of just themselves.


That would be a breach of the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy

Your kid (and maybe even you) could be thrown into Azkaban. Or whatever the Irish equivalent of Azkaban is (unless they are also ruled by the British Ministry)

Only a few people can use magic and trying to help none magic users with magic is banned? Sounds like the wizards are just being a bunch of elitist dicks. I've changed my mind and I'm with Harry's wizard hating uncle.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:15 pm

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
That would be a breach of the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy

Your kid (and maybe even you) could be thrown into Azkaban. Or whatever the Irish equivalent of Azkaban is (unless they are also ruled by the British Ministry)

Only a few people can use magic and trying to help none magic users with magic is banned? Sounds like the wizards are just being a bunch of elitist dicks. I've changed my mind and I'm with Harry's wizard hating uncle.


This vid makes some interesting observations about the HP universe that seem relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsYWT5Q_R_w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9vLQdb8Kcw
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:47 pm

Witchcraft is bad.
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Postby Nui-ta » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:59 pm

Harry Potter magic is real, and my kid has the gene?

I'll make do. Maybe Ilvermony has a support group for No-Maj parents?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:14 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Hey look at that, Saiwania's getting into the IM game.

Anyway, I was gonna say "no because magic is haram", but seeing that this universe actually has the magic gene, which if not used, is harmful to one's health, I'd let my child go to the school.


The Koran actually says something that doesn't exist is haram?


The Koran states magic is real. As are ghosts and Djinns.
And haram, yes.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:15 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Witchcraft is bad.


As it is used in the HP universe ? Yes.
But would it not be nice if your Granny gets cured of her cancer with the flick of a wand ?
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:28 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Witchcraft is bad.


As it is used in the HP universe ? Yes.
But would it not be nice if your Granny gets cured of her cancer with the flick of a wand ?

Even if it were possible in their world, they are secluding themselves to avoid ever having to let us regular folk do it. Which is why the Ministry of Magic must be the target of an IRA bombing campaign.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:30 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
As it is used in the HP universe ? Yes.
But would it not be nice if your Granny gets cured of her cancer with the flick of a wand ?

Even if it were possible in their world, they are secluding themselves to avoid ever having to let us regular folk do it.


Which is silly of them. We can offer them mobile phones to replace enslaved owls, they can cure cancer. Everybody wins.
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Postby Escade » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:37 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
New haven america wrote:There's no American Public Magic Schools though, there's only the 1.

1 school, serving a population of over ~3,500,000 people of 2 different nationalities that lives spread out in an area of over 7,000,000 sq mi.

Am I the only one who sees a problem with this place? Honestly, I think a Public Magic School would probably be better than the half-assed monstrosity that is Ilvermorney.

FOUND IT!

INNER-CITY WIZARD SCHOOL


OMG that video was hilarious lol ..

Also since so much of the post Hogwarts stuff from Rowling is *fuzzy* or *fuzzier than acceptable in a magical world* I kind of imagine a secret magical school in California and another one in .... Rhode Island because where else :P I imagine many states having such interesting subsets of regional magic.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:25 am

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
That would be a breach of the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy

Your kid (and maybe even you) could be thrown into Azkaban. Or whatever the Irish equivalent of Azkaban is (unless they are also ruled by the British Ministry)

Only a few people can use magic and trying to help none magic users with magic is banned? Sounds like the wizards are just being a bunch of elitist dicks. I've changed my mind and I'm with Harry's wizard hating uncle.


This is correct. Magic may not be used to help the non-magic unless they are your relatives.

In fact, as late as the 1930s it was outright illegal to marry a non-magic user.

Its questionable how much they are a threat to us though.

Dark Magic seems to have regressed as well.

Grindewald was able to take over entire nations during WWII. But the new "more powerful" dark lord Voldemort has difficulties taking over a high school (and can't even get a single nation, the UK under control).

His daughter is even worse. Despite getting her hands on time travel technology she fails a relatively easy mission to bring Voldemort back and gets defeated in a 2 vs 1.
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Postby Pope Joan » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:20 am

It would be handy if they would magically do the household chores,

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:41 am

Inform the local arbite office of the presence of an unsanctioned psyker/mutant and await the emperors mercy.


eh i'd tell them to just straight up murder any stretched skin bastards with no noses.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:36 am

I'm a talking sheep. If I were non magical and one of my brethren were, I'd probably roll my eyes and eat some more grass.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:36 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'd be worried about Rowling retroactively changing my child's sexual orientation, gender identity, race, or religion, but on the other hand this could be my in to get the Wizarding world to come out of the closet and integrate into wider society and use their magic to help the whole world instead of just themselves.


That would be a breach of the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy

Your kid (and maybe even you) could be thrown into Azkaban. Or whatever the Irish equivalent of Azkaban is (unless they are also ruled by the British Ministry)

Did you know that laws can be repealed?
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:30 am

New haven america wrote:No, I would not send my kids to Ilvermorney, mainly because it's an increadibly half-assed school.
It's like JK Rowling didn't know about Canadian and US geography


Well, I think it is also half assed because Rowling just doesn't understand American history and culture. It is out of her element and inserted a bit too much of her British biases and politics. She did not do the research or get enough consulting to write a magical history that truly "fits" with the No-Maj equivalent for the US. Hence, there will probably be George Lucas levels of retconning.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/j-k-rowlings-hi ... 1764311530

That said, I liked the story of Ilvermorny's founding well enough. It has the distinction of being the only major Wizarding school in the lore so far, to have been co-founded by a No-Maj. I'd have to scoff at his liking Cranberry pie though. What is more stereotypically American is to prefer Apple pie.
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Postby Page » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:56 am

If I were a muggle previously ignorant to this world but found irrefutable evidence that it's real, to give an honest answer I'd probably become obsessed with investigating the wizarding world and would want to learn all their secrets. So I would support my kid embracing their powers. But tbh I would probably also be resentful of my inability to use magic and would probably push too far in pursuing their secrets and end up obliviated.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:06 am

He makes the kid live in a cupboard. I don't think his characterization is particularly complex. Generic early-plot YA antagonist.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:15 pm

Try exorcism.
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Postby The Biggles Syndicate » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:20 pm

Well, if there was a magical person in my family, I would PURGE THE PSYKER IN THE NAME OF THE GOD EMPEROR ask them about it and make sure there are no negative affects or instance of overuse. I would also make sure that nothing malevolent is attracted to it, like a demon or spirit.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:21 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:He makes the kid live in a cupboard. I don't think his characterization is particularly complex. Generic early-plot YA antagonist.

But see, he abuses his nephew because his nephew is different. This is very relatable to certain people.
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Postby Cetacea » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:23 pm

Kannap wrote:I'd murder them in a blind, jealous rage probably.


Now it looks like an IM scenario

Anyway I’d exploit the magic for wealth and thrills

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