How should we deal with North Korea?

[Andsed]

Okay to anyone who thinks we should support North Korea I'm going to say this. WHY?! Seriously North Korea is an oppressive regimes that refuses to let their citizens leave and as they starve spends all of their money on a nuclear program instead of you know helping their starving people. And because I know you guys are going to say I have been brainwashed by western media let me give you a couple of sources to prove this.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea/north-korea-s-ex-poet-laureate-has-human-rights-message-n893031 Jang Jin Sung is a former North Korean senior official speaking out here.

https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/101east/2017/05/thae-yong-ho-interview-north-korean-defector-170503114811043.htmlThae Yong-ho is another former North Korean government official speaking out here.
And there are countless more defectors who speak out about North Korea's human right abuses. You may not like the US but it is no where near as bad as North Korea.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I think we (primarily the US and China) should be working on the DPRK, largely on their terms, toward their re-integration with the international community. Hopefully we can even work toward the peaceful reunification of the Korean peninsula.

No doubt you support Korea's unification under Kim Jong Un, considering the fact that you want the international community to bend over to him and you're also a communist.

[Autarkheia]

I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I seriously doubt an anarcho-communist would support North Korea.

[Agarntrop]

I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I seriously doubt an anarcho-communist would support North Korea.

Yes, North Korea is totalitarian, the opposite type of leftism to anarcho-communism.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I seriously doubt an anarcho-communist would support North Korea.

Yes, North Korea is totalitarian, the opposite type of leftism to anarcho-communism.

There have been self-described anarcho-communists who went out to defend North Korea.

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North Korea should just be left alone for now, but if they try anything like invading South Korea, then Pyongyang should be blown off the map.

[Bulgar Rouge]

Just sign a peace treaty, I guess?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Just sign a peace treaty, I guess?

That's what I would do, but I don't have much faith that Kim will abide by it.

[Senkaku]

When SpaceX finally rolls out the BFR, buy a bunch and build an orbital strike system, and then use some Casaba howitzers in high orbit to fry their stuff in milliseconds.

[Bulgar Rouge]

Just sign a peace treaty, I guess?

That's what I would do, but I don't have much faith that Kim will abide by it.

Actually there is good reason to believe he would. Their propaganda narrative is based on decades of preparation for war with the United States. A peace treaty would invalidate all of that for good. Given the current climate, he seems inclined to move away from military-first and focus on economic development, which is only possible if the more belligerent parts of the old system are dismantled.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

That's what I would do, but I don't have much faith that Kim will abide by it.

Actually there is good reason to believe he would. Their propaganda narrative is based on decades of preparation for war with the United States. A peace treaty would invalidate all of that for good. Given the current climate, he seems inclined to move away from military-first and focus on economic development, which is only possible if the more belligerent parts of the old system are dismantled.

North Korea makes a lot of promises, but doesn't follow through.

[Eodor]

Actually there is good reason to believe he would. Their propaganda narrative is based on decades of preparation for war with the United States. A peace treaty would invalidate all of that for good. Given the current climate, he seems inclined to move away from military-first and focus on economic development, which is only possible if the more belligerent parts of the old system are dismantled.

North Korea makes a lot of promises, but doesn't follow through.

Why would North Korea throw away it's only method of protection in a world dedicated to destroying it?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

North Korea makes a lot of promises, but doesn't follow through.

Why would North Korea throw away it's only method of protection in a world dedicated to destroying it?

They ostracized themselves with their shitty human rights record. That is the only reason why the world hates them. They should actually give their people rights, to improve relations.

[Eodor]

Why would North Korea throw away it's only method of protection in a world dedicated to destroying it?

They ostracized themselves with their shitty human rights record. That is the only reason why the world hates them.

North Korea's "shitty human rights record" is laughably good when compared to that of Saudi Arabia or America. The world hates them because they're gorram pesky commies who're going to eat your children.

[Bulgar Rouge]

Actually there is good reason to believe he would. Their propaganda narrative is based on decades of preparation for war with the United States. A peace treaty would invalidate all of that for good. Given the current climate, he seems inclined to move away from military-first and focus on economic development, which is only possible if the more belligerent parts of the old system are dismantled.

North Korea makes a lot of promises, but doesn't follow through.

They haven't promised anything specific.

[Andsed]

They ostracized themselves with their shitty human rights record. That is the only reason why the world hates them.

North Korea's "shitty human rights record" is laughably good when compared to that of Saudi Arabia or America. The world hates them because they're gorram pesky commies who're going to eat your children.

Say what you want about the US we ain’t the ones throwing people in jail for saying anything against the government and then threatening that persons family if they escape. As for Saudi Arabia I agree we should not support them but their crimes do not excuse North Korea

[Eodor]

North Korea's "shitty human rights record" is laughably good when compared to that of Saudi Arabia or America. The world hates them because they're gorram pesky commies who're going to eat your children.

Say what you want about the US we ain’t the ones throwing people in jail for saying anything against the government and then threatening that persons family if they escape. As for Saudi Arabia I agree we should not support them but their crimes do not excuse North Korea

No crime excuses another crime, but if we're basing how bad a country is based on their rights records the US is far worse than North Korea.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

They ostracized themselves with their shitty human rights record. That is the only reason why the world hates them.

North Korea's "shitty human rights record" is laughably good when compared to that of Saudi Arabia or America. The world hates them because they're gorram pesky commies who're going to eat your children.

We don't starve people in gulags, but North Korea does; your argument is incredibly moronic.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Say what you want about the US we ain’t the ones throwing people in jail for saying anything against the government and then threatening that persons family if they escape. As for Saudi Arabia I agree we should not support them but their crimes do not excuse North Korea

No crime excuses another crime, but if we're basing how bad a country is based on their rights records the US is far worse than North Korea.

This thread ain't about the U.S. so quit deflecting.

[Andsed]

Say what you want about the US we ain’t the ones throwing people in jail for saying anything against the government and then threatening that persons family if they escape. As for Saudi Arabia I agree we should not support them but their crimes do not excuse North Korea

No crime excuses another crime, but if we're basing how bad a country is based on their rights records the US is far worse than North Korea.

Yeah we have done things that are worse than what North Korea is doing but currently North Korea is doing much worse things than the US.

[Eodor]

North Korea's "shitty human rights record" is laughably good when compared to that of Saudi Arabia or America. The world hates them because they're gorram pesky commies who're going to eat your children.

We don't starve people in gulags, but North Korea does; your argument is incredibly moronic.

You committed genocide against the Native Americans. And there is no proof North Korea "starves people in Gulags", as you say.

[Erythrean Thebes]

Say what you want about the US we ain’t the ones throwing people in jail for saying anything against the government and then threatening that persons family if they escape. As for Saudi Arabia I agree we should not support them but their crimes do not excuse North Korea

No crime excuses another crime, but if we're basing how bad a country is based on their rights records the US is far worse than North Korea.

There's no good reason to do this analysis in terms of countries as if they were personified. You have to look at the human rights record of individual people who were political leaders - in that regard, Kim Jung-Un has the dubious honor of being in the major league of evil human leaders since the dawn of the modern era and is almost certainly worse than any US President ever

[PR New England]

Conquer and - instead of going for virgin reunification - let's take the chadly option and make Northern Korea a colony of the United States.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

We don't starve people in gulags, but North Korea does; your argument is incredibly moronic.

You committed genocide against the Native Americans. And there is no proof North Korea "starves people in Gulags", as you say.

No, because the testimony from countless people doesn't exist, oh wait, yes it does.

[Eodor]

You committed genocide against the Native Americans. And there is no proof North Korea "starves people in Gulags", as you say.

No, because the testimony from countless people doesn't exist, oh wait, yes they do.

The countless people who escaped from the Gulags that are definitely inescapable and then escaped from the country that shoots everyone who tries to escape and that no one can escape from and who definitely aren't being paid to lie or anything like that.

[PR New England]

No, because the testimony from countless people doesn't exist, oh wait, yes they do.

The countless people who escaped from the Gulags that are definitely inescapable and then escaped from the country that shoots everyone who tries to escape and that no one can escape from and who definitely aren't being paid to lie or anything like that.

#BelieveSurvivors
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