Russian seizure of Ukranian Warships

[Thermodolia]

I agree that minority's got it pretty bad in history but a couple of things. Just because they got it bad in history does not mean they should get advantages and every race and ethnic group has done awful things to others.

I am pretty sure Sharania is a Shof sock puppet account where he does an act of how Russians view Americans.
So debating it is not really useful.

Plus he is thread jacking.

Actually Sharania isn’t a puppet as confirmed by the mods

[PR New England]

I am pretty sure Sharania is a Shof sock puppet account where he does an act of how Russians view Americans.
So debating it is not really useful.

Plus he is thread jacking.

Actually Sharania isn’t a puppet as confirmed by the mods

>mods
It is known.

[Tarsonis]

Oh, spare me! It’s so abused turn of phrase, no one believes it anymore! “I’m friends with X, Y, Z, so I can’t be racist” – sure you can.

But I didn’t say anything like that. You just got pissed because I said it’s pretty normal to call everyone who hails from Russia a Russian even if they might not be ethnically Russian.

It’s just outrage for outrage.

You did nothing to prove otherwise. In fact, you are digging yourself even deeper:

How exactly? I stated nothing that made me look racist either. So I don’t know how saying “I like different ethnicities” is racist.

Unless said person who I’m arguing with is actually a racist but only wants to hide said racism.

Yeah, because screw folks who were disadvantaged through history, who were persecuted, denied a fair chance, discriminated against, etc, etc.

That’s not what I’m talking about. I think laws should be based on equality of opportunity not equality of outcome.
So therefore I oppose laws which give minorities designated areas, seats in government, or the like.

Say, “centrist cultural nationalist” – what does it really mean in the Alt-Right NewSpeak?

“If you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.”
-Abraham Maslow

“Centrist cultural nationalist” is just that. It has no hidden meaning. I myself believe that the Alt-right is just another term for Nazi.

when you realize you’re dating an alt-righter

[Sharania]

But I didn’t say anything like that. You just got pissed because I said it’s pretty normal to call everyone who hails from Russia a Russian even if they might not be ethnically Russian.

It’s just outrage for outrage.

No, you are wrong. Labeling other people as you like them is wrong and insensitive. Do they identify themselves as Russians? How would you like if someone called you something you are not?

“Centrist cultural nationalist” is just that. It has no hidden meaning. I myself believe that the Alt-right is just another term for Nazi.

Yes, they are. But they try to mask it often adopting their own NewSpeak. Nationalism is never right because its always about superiority and othering of the people who do not fit in.

I'm done here, you are hopeless.

[Thermodolia]

But I didn’t say anything like that. You just got pissed because I said it’s pretty normal to call everyone who hails from Russia a Russian even if they might not be ethnically Russian.

It’s just outrage for outrage.


How exactly? I stated nothing that made me look racist either. So I don’t know how saying “I like different ethnicities” is racist.

Unless said person who I’m arguing with is actually a racist but only wants to hide said racism.


That’s not what I’m talking about. I think laws should be based on equality of opportunity not equality of outcome.
So therefore I oppose laws which give minorities designated areas, seats in government, or the like.


“If you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.”
-Abraham Maslow

“Centrist cultural nationalist” is just that. It has no hidden meaning. I myself believe that the Alt-right is just another term for Nazi.

when you realize you’re dating an alt-righter

Hahahahaha that was awesome

[Kaggeceria]

But I didn’t say anything like that. You just got pissed because I said it’s pretty normal to call everyone who hails from Russia a Russian even if they might not be ethnically Russian.

It’s just outrage for outrage.

No, you are wrong. Labeling other people as you like them is wrong and insensitive. Do they identify themselves as Russians? How would you like if someone called you something you are not?

Therm: *calls people from Russia Russians*
Sharn:

Why?

Yes, they are. But they try to mask it often adopting their own NewSpeak. Nationalism is never right because its always about superiority and othering of the people who do not fit in.

I'm done here, you are hopeless.

Abusing Orwellian terms doesn't make you correct.

[The Huskar Social Union]

No, you are wrong. Labeling other people as you like them is wrong and insensitive. Do they identify themselves as Russians? How would you like if someone called you something you are not?

Therm: *calls people from Russia Russians*
Sharn:

Why?

Abusing Orwellian terms doesn't make you correct.

Because you got to be mad about something i guess.

Even if it is something absolutely fucking moronic like that.

[Thermodolia]

But I didn’t say anything like that. You just got pissed because I said it’s pretty normal to call everyone who hails from Russia a Russian even if they might not be ethnically Russian.

It’s just outrage for outrage.

No, you are wrong. Labeling other people as you like them is wrong and insensitive.

And?

Do they identify themselves as Russians?

Ya I’m not going to ask everyone where they are from or what they identify as because I think that’s creepy.

How would you like if someone called you something you are not?

Shrug and move on with my life.

“Centrist cultural nationalist” is just that. It has no hidden meaning. I myself believe that the Alt-right is just another term for Nazi.

Yes, they are. But they try to mask it often adopting their own NewSpeak.

And?

Nationalism is never right because its always about superiority and othering of the people who do not fit in.

No that’s not what nationalism is about. And right wing nationalism isn’t the only nationalism as the Irish and Africans can tell you.

Also tumblr is that way —>

I'm done here, you are hopeless.

What is it because I didn’t play your race games?

[Andsed]

Therm: *calls people from Russia Russians*
Sharn:

Why?


Abusing Orwellian terms doesn't make you correct.

Because you got to be mad about something i guess.

Even if it is something absolutely fucking moronic like that.

Me:*States that all ethnic groups have done bad things in the past.
Sharn: *Your MAGA!!!!!!!*
Me:

[PR New England]

Yes, they are. But they try to mask it often adopting their own NewSpeak. Nationalism is never right because its always about superiority and othering of the people who do not fit in.

I'm done here, you are hopeless.

What? Gandhi was a nationalist, did he want Hindu superiority? Quite the opposite, he wanted Hindus and Muslims to live together peacefully in India. He did want to other the British, because they had conquered India, treated the locals as inferior, and did not bother teaching Indians how to rule.

[Thermodolia]

Therm: *calls people from Russia Russians*
Sharn:

Why?


Abusing Orwellian terms doesn't make you correct.

Because you got to be mad about something i guess.

Even if it is something absolutely fucking moronic like that.

But couldn’t you just be mad at the Swedes?

[Sharania]

Therm: *calls people from Russia Russians*
Sharn:

1) Are all people from the UK English?
2) Are the Kurds fleeing from Turkey "Turkish"?

[The Huskar Social Union]

No that’s not what nationalism is about. And right wing nationalism isn’t the only nationalism as the Irish and Africans can tell you.

Also tumblr is that way —>

tfw the irish nationalist parties in NI are the most leftwing parties around bar the trotskyist party.

[PR New England]

Therm: *calls people from Russia Russians*
Sharn:

1) Are all people from the UK English?
2) Are the Kurds fleeing from Turkey "Turkish"?

1) No, because England is a part of the UK.

2) Yes. They are citizens of Turkey.

[Kaggeceria]

Therm: *calls people from Russia Russians*
Sharn:

Why?


Abusing Orwellian terms doesn't make you correct.

Because you got to be mad about something i guess.

Even if it is something absolutely fucking moronic like that.

It's funny because if we take this to its logical conclusion then I'm sure Sharn would be pissed off even more.

He thinks if you exist in a country but are a different ethnicity then you aren't actually of that nationality. This means that any immigrants in America who are citizens but not from here are not American.

Wonder how angry he would get if someone said Haitian immigrants aren't American.

[PR New England]

tfw the irish nationalist parties in NI are the most leftwing parties around bar the trotskyist party.

Wait, are we talking about Irish nationalism?

[Luhanskaya]

I'll start by stating that I am Russian, who currently in Ukraine, so call me biased if you so choose, but what would Russia gain of this? This seems oddly convenient for Poroshenko and his party with the upcoming elections and all. I do not agree with what Russia had done. And even with being in the area of all this I do not have a clear reliable source from either side on what actually had transpired.

[The Huskar Social Union]

tfw the irish nationalist parties in NI are the most leftwing parties around bar the trotskyist party.

Wait, are we talking about Irish nationalism?

Take that demented ira frog fuck and never darken my door again i say.

[Andsed]

I'll start by stating that I am Russian, who currently in Ukraine, so call me biased if you so choose, but what would Russia gain of this? This seems oddly convenient for Poroshenko and his party with the upcoming elections and all. I do not agree with what Russia had done. And even with being in the area of all this I do not have a clear reliable source from either side on what actually transpired.

This is probably the most sensible sane post in this thread TBH.

[PR New England]

I'll start by stating that I am Russian, who currently in Ukraine, so call me biased if you so choose, but what would Russia gain from this? This seems oddly convenient for Poroshenko and his party with the upcoming elections and all. I do not agree with what Russia had done. And even with being in the area of all this I do not have a clear reliable source from either side on what actually transpired.

You're kind of in a tough spot, bro.
On the one hand you can be a citizen of a country that the US is probably going to war with in the coming decade.
But on the other hand you can be a citizen of a country run by corrupt Nazis.

[PR New England]

Wait, are we talking about Irish nationalism?

Take that demented ira frog fuck and never darken my door again i say.

And it's down Along the Falls Road, that's where I long to be,
Lying in the dark with a Provo company,
A comrade on my left and another on my right
And a clip of ammunition for my little Armalite.

[Utilitarian Union]

I'll start by stating that I am Russian, who currently in Ukraine, so call me biased if you so choose, but what would Russia gain of this? This seems oddly convenient for Poroshenko and his party with the upcoming elections and all. I do not agree with what Russia had done. And even with being in the area of all this I do not have a clear reliable source from either side on what actually had transpired.

If you look at the war without ethnicity, you see that the politicians (Putin, Poroshenko, and other) are all manipulating their people to consolidate their power. The Russians and Ukrainians have no reasonable reason to hate each other except for what the government tells them to think.

I say this from perspective of a Serbian, I believe that we have a similar situation like Ukraine in Republic of Kosovo, the government is only looking out for themselves and using people's hatred to get more power.

[Vassenor]

No, you are wrong. Labeling other people as you like them is wrong and insensitive. Do they identify themselves as Russians? How would you like if someone called you something you are not?

Therm: *calls people from Russia Russians*
Sharn:

Why?

Abusing Orwellian terms doesn't make you correct.

But calling people from Europe European is bad sometimes.

[Andsed]

Therm: *calls people from Russia Russians*
Sharn:

Why?


Abusing Orwellian terms doesn't make you correct.

But calling people from Europe European is bad sometimes.

I have literally heard no one complain about that. Seriously someone give me a source where someone is complaining about that?

[Novus Wrepland]

I am pretty sure Sharania is a Shof sock puppet account where he does an act of how Russians view Americans.
So debating it is not really useful.

Plus he is thread jacking.

Actually Sharania isn’t a puppet as confirmed by the mods

IIRC they don’t have the right technology to be sure. Anecdotally I saw them leave and join at the same time once.

If not it’s probably Lyttenburgh for those of you old enough to remember when that unpleasant person posted here.