Riots in France over fuel tax rises

[Torrocca]

Taxing the common folk while not bothering to address the root issue itself, AKA Capitalism?

Do you chop your head off when it hurts?

Do you let cancer fester until it reaches stage four?

[Petrolheadia]

Do you chop your head off when it hurts?

Do you let cancer fester until it reaches stage four?

I get it removed without getting all my internal organs removed.

[Torrocca]

Do you let cancer fester until it reaches stage four?

I get it removed without getting all my internal organs removed.

And yet you give exception to the economic cancer that is Capitalism.

I can't wait to choke to death on human hubris.

[Petrolheadia]

I can't wait to choke to death on human hubris.

Ain't gonna miss you.

[Torrocca]

I can't wait to choke to death on human hubris.

Ain't gonna miss you.

Luckily you'll neither be around to watch nor enjoy that since we're all gonna bite the dust as a species by letting Capitalism fester. :3

[Petrolheadia]

Ain't gonna miss you.

Luckily you'll neither be around to watch nor enjoy that since we're all gonna bite the dust as a species by letting Capitalism fester. :3

What do you mean by that?

[Bolkenia]

It's calm here. Yellow jackets are everywhere and the riots are in the news. But I don't think it's going to end soon. The situation is so critical that they want to use the État Urgence, a sort-of lighter Martial Law, basically more policemen, more security and more surveillance. Last time they did this it was after the Charlie Hebdo's attack if I remember it right.

[Kaggeceria]

Luckily you'll neither be around to watch nor enjoy that since we're all gonna bite the dust as a species by letting Capitalism fester. :3

What do you mean by that?

Nothing, really. Just the useless fearmongering that one comes to expect from commies.

[Rojava Free State]

It's calm here. Yellow jackets are everywhere and the riots are in the news. But I don't think it's going to end soon. The situation is so critical that they want to use the État Urgence, a sort-of lighter Martial Law, basically more policemen, more security and more surveillance. Last time they did this it was after the Charlie Hebdo's attack if I remember it right.

I wouldn't call the last state of emergency light martial law. The police and national guard had the power under it to do no knock raids on homes and high level surveillance across every city and town in france. There were soldiers in Paris.
France is basically a soft dictatorship. Macron didn't need to crush people's supposed freedom like Mao or Stalin because unlike Mao or Stalin, much of the population initially believed in him. But now that his popularity is waning and people are taking to the streets against the increasing gap between rich and poor, expect the illusion of democracy to go bye bye

[Torrocca]

Luckily you'll neither be around to watch nor enjoy that since we're all gonna bite the dust as a species by letting Capitalism fester. :3

What do you mean by that?

Ocean acidification killing all the phytoplankton and strangling our oxygen supply, all caused by the pollution created by Capitalist businesses you so lovingly support.

[Petrolheadia]

What do you mean by that?

Ocean acidification killing all the phytoplankton and strangling our oxygen supply, all caused by the pollution created by Capitalist businesses you so lovingly support.

I'd prefer some more concrete description.

[Kaggeceria]

What do you mean by that?

Ocean acidification killing all the phytoplankton and strangling our oxygen supply, all caused by the pollution created by Capitalist businesses you so lovingly support.

Cool. Instead of dying from capitalist businesses we can die from commie businesses.

[Rojava Free State]

https://www.thelocal.fr/20181203/lootin ... s-protests

It's spreading to other cities and getting really intense

[Kaggeceria]

https://www.thelocal.fr/20181203/looting-and-violent-clashes-what-happened-in-the-rest-of-france-during-saturday-nights-protests

It's spreading to other cities and getting really intense

Wonder how long it'll be until Macron finally buckles.

[Torrocca]

Ocean acidification killing all the phytoplankton and strangling our oxygen supply, all caused by the pollution created by Capitalist businesses you so lovingly support.

I'd prefer some more concrete description.

No oxygen = humanity dies

That simple and concrete enough for you?

Ocean acidification killing all the phytoplankton and strangling our oxygen supply, all caused by the pollution created by Capitalist businesses you so lovingly support.

Cool. Instead of dying from capitalist businesses we can die from commie businesses.

>Commie
>businesses

I'd've figured at least somebody here who's been talking to leftists for 2+ years would know what the hell they're talking about whenever they make a reference to Communism, but apparently not.

Also, news flash, hun: Communists wouldn't perpetuate this disastrous consumer culture like Capitalism does.

[Kaggeceria]

I'd prefer some more concrete description.

No oxygen = humanity dies

That simple and concrete enough for you?

Cool. Instead of dying from capitalist businesses we can die from commie businesses.

>Commie
>businesses

I'd've figured at least somebody here who's been talking to leftists for 2+ years would know what the hell they're talking about whenever they make a reference to Communism, but apparently not.

Also, news flash, hun: Communists wouldn't perpetuate this disastrous consumer culture like Capitalism does.

A communist society wouldn't be post-scarcity. You would still feel the hunger for resources, friendo. You can't escape it. We don't have the technology for post-scarcity yet. This isn't Star Trek.

[Petrolheadia]

I'd prefer some more concrete description.

No oxygen = humanity dies

That simple and concrete enough for you?

I asked for concrete, not oversimplified.

[Torrocca]

No oxygen = humanity dies

That simple and concrete enough for you?



>Commie
>businesses

I'd've figured at least somebody here who's been talking to leftists for 2+ years would know what the hell they're talking about whenever they make a reference to Communism, but apparently not.

Also, news flash, hun: Communists wouldn't perpetuate this disastrous consumer culture like Capitalism does.

A communist society wouldn't be post-scarcity. You would still feel the hunger for resources, friendo. You can't escape it. We don't have the technology for post-scarcity yet. This isn't Star Trek.

A Communist society, however, wouldn't produce to the point of extreme waste. In fact, it's pretty damn reasonable to argue that a Communist society wouldn't be producing hyper-cheap, easily replaceable goods, either, in favor of producing much smaller quantities of quality products instead. :^3

No oxygen = humanity dies

That simple and concrete enough for you?

I asked for concrete, not oversimplified.

The simplicity of it is its concreteness. :^)

However, I'll let you put two and two together in this case, on the desperate hope you somehow don't make three or five from that.

[Kaggeceria]

A communist society wouldn't be post-scarcity. You would still feel the hunger for resources, friendo. You can't escape it. We don't have the technology for post-scarcity yet. This isn't Star Trek.

A Communist society, however, wouldn't produce to the point of extreme waste. In fact, it's pretty damn reasonable to argue that a Communist society wouldn't be producing hyper-cheap, easily replaceable goods, either, in favor of producing much smaller quantities of quality products instead. :^3

lol

Why, though? Why not produce cheap, easily-replaceable goods? What incentive would they have to not do that?

[Holy Tedalonia]

A Communist society, however, wouldn't produce to the point of extreme waste. In fact, it's pretty damn reasonable to argue that a Communist society wouldn't be producing hyper-cheap, easily replaceable goods, either, in favor of producing much smaller quantities of quality products instead. :^3

lol

Why, though? Why not produce cheap, easily-replaceable goods? What incentive would they have to do not do that?

Ironic to think that the USSR military which was considered to make cheap crappy equipment now is praised for its quality goods.

[Kaggeceria]

lol

Why, though? Why not produce cheap, easily-replaceable goods? What incentive would they have to do not do that?

Ironic to think that the USSR military which was considered to make cheap crappy equipment now is praised for its quality goods.

I really am curious though about what would incentivize a commie society to not make cheap goods.

They still won't have a solution for resource scarcity. Producing cheap goods would still be a necessity in order to avoid wasting valuable resources.

[Torrocca]

A Communist society, however, wouldn't produce to the point of extreme waste. In fact, it's pretty damn reasonable to argue that a Communist society wouldn't be producing hyper-cheap, easily replaceable goods, either, in favor of producing much smaller quantities of quality products instead. :^3

lol

Why, though? Why not produce cheap, easily-replaceable goods? What incentive would they have to not do that?

Probably the main reason would be that there's no fucking need for it? It's way better in the long-term to have effective, long-lasting, quality items, first and foremost, and secondly the lack of a profit motive because, y'know, Communism, would mean there's no reason to produce cheap consumer goods that'd maximize profits because more items are being sold as replacements.

[Kaggeceria]

lol

Why, though? Why not produce cheap, easily-replaceable goods? What incentive would they have to not do that?

Probably the main reason would be that there's no fucking need for it? It's way better in the long-term to have effective, long-lasting, quality items, first and foremost, and secondly the lack of a profit motive because, y'know, Communism, would mean there's no reason to produce cheap consumer goods that'd maximize profits because more items are being sold as replacements.

Other than conserving valuable resources?

You see, friendo, you're still ignoring the problem of resource scarcity which communism doesn't actually have a solution for.

[Torrocca]

Probably the main reason would be that there's no fucking need for it? It's way better in the long-term to have effective, long-lasting, quality items, first and foremost, and secondly the lack of a profit motive because, y'know, Communism, would mean there's no reason to produce cheap consumer goods that'd maximize profits because more items are being sold as replacements.

Other than conserving valuable resources?

You see, friendo, you're still ignoring the problem of resource scarcity which communism doesn't actually have a solution for.

It has a good solution to reduce the pains of it, which is to produce quality, long-lasting stuff that doesn't need to be replaced frequently instead of this consumerist bullshit, and it has a good solution to end it which is, of course, seizing the means of space resource production. :3

[Kaggeceria]

Other than conserving valuable resources?

You see, friendo, you're still ignoring the problem of resource scarcity which communism doesn't actually have a solution for.

It has a good solution to reduce the pains of it, which is to produce quality, long-lasting stuff that doesn't need to be replaced frequently instead of this consumerist bullshit, and it has a good solution to end it which is, of course, seizing the means of space resource production. :3

Produce quality stuff and waste valuable, scarce resources.

Not much of a solution.