Riots in France over fuel tax rises

[Petrolheadia]

Gas taxes are a crummy way to combat climate change. They result in a minimal level of pollution reduction, and place the burden on people who are neither heavy polkuters, nor easily able to accommodate the tax.

How else do you propose implementing a carbon tax if a large chunk of CO2 emissions come from burning fossil fuels for personal transportation?

Not implementing one. Duh.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

How else do you propose implementing a carbon tax if a large chunk of CO2 emissions come from burning fossil fuels for personal transportation?

Not implementing one. Duh.

Honestly my solution would be to give tax breaks for electric/hybrid cars/buses/trucks. Or subsidize biofuel production from crop waste like corn stalks. Anything that would reduce our reliance on gas since those of us in the Anglosphere aren't going to give up driving.

[Painisia]

Just a normal repetition in French history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6_February_1934_crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1968_events_in_France
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_French_riots
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_Riots
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_de ... 5_May_1848

[Telconi]

Not implementing one. Duh.

Honestly my solution would be to give tax breaks for electric/hybrid cars/buses/trucks. Or subsidize biofuel production from crop waste like corn stalks. Anything that would reduce our reliance on gas since those of us in the Anglosphere aren't going to give up driving.

Carrots work better than sticks.

[Novus America]

Gas taxes are a crummy way to combat climate change. They result in a minimal level of pollution reduction, and place the burden on people who are neither heavy polkuters, nor easily able to accommodate the tax.

How else do you propose implementing a carbon tax if a large chunk of CO2 emissions come from burning fossil fuels for personal transportation?

Just tariff or ban the importation of internal combustion engines. It would not harm the drivers if current cars.
But it would make electric cars more competitive.

[Trumptonium1]

How else do you propose implementing a carbon tax if a large chunk of CO2 emissions come from burning fossil fuels for personal transportation?

Just tariff or ban the importation of internal combustion engines. It would not harm the drivers if current cars.
But it would make electric cars more competitive.

The same way horseback rides over long distance are made more competitive if you ban aviation and shipping.

[Novus America]

Just tariff or ban the importation of internal combustion engines. It would not harm the drivers if current cars.
But it would make electric cars more competitive.

The same way horseback rides over long distance are made more competitive if you ban aviation and shipping.

Restrictions on imports does not mean you ban the thing entirely.
People would no longer be able to buy foreign combustion engines but could buy domestically made ones.
And they could continue to use existing imported combustion engines.
It would only affect the ability to buy new imported ones.

[Liriena]

Those protests are looking rad.

Macron? Don't like him, don't like his policies, but still prefer him to anything that the Rassemblement national sharts out. Melenchon is my dude.

[Novus America]

Those protests are looking rad.

Macron? Don't like him, don't like his policies, but still prefer him to anything that the Rassemblement national sharts out. Melenchon is my dude.

Because someone who will do whatever Putin says is better?

[Liriena]

Those protests are looking rad.

Macron? Don't like him, don't like his policies, but still prefer him to anything that the Rassemblement national sharts out. Melenchon is my dude.

Because someone who will do whatever Putin says is better?

Wait what?

[Novus America]

Because someone who will do whatever Putin says is better?

Wait what?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... ntial-race

[Aellex]

Those protests are looking rad.

Macron? Don't like him, don't like his policies, but still prefer him to anything that the Rassemblement national sharts out. Melenchon is my dude.

Mélenchon has been showing his true colors more and more lately and that has killed much of the support that used to exist for him. He's most likely heading the same way as Valls into complete irrelevance.

[PaIsPoLodOtoS]

Macrons face after riots:

[Liriena]

Wait what?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... ntial-race

Those protests are looking rad.

Macron? Don't like him, don't like his policies, but still prefer him to anything that the Rassemblement national sharts out. Melenchon is my dude.

Mélenchon has been showing his true colors more and more lately and that has killed much of the support that used to exist for him. He's most likely heading the same way as Valls into complete irrelevance.

Oh... dammit. Welp, friendship ended with Melenchon. Poutou is my best friend again.

[Aellex]

Oh... dammit. Welp, friendship ended with Melenchon. Poutou is my best friend again.

and

are as good as him when it comes to shitpost tho in diametrically different ways.

But yeah, Mélenchon essentially did a repeat of Macron's "suit" episode and that killed the last shred of respect most people had left for him.

[Hirota]

Wait what?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... ntial-race

Not to mention his alleged dodgy dealings during the 2017 elections.

[Liriena]

Oh... dammit. Welp, friendship ended with Melenchon. Poutou is my best friend again.

and

are as good as him when it comes to shitpost tho in diametrically different ways.

But yeah, Mélenchon essentially did a repeat of Macron's "suit" episode and that killed the last shred of respect most people had left for him.

More [clap] shiposting [clap] in [clap] politics!

[Mardla]

Those protests are looking rad.

Macron? Don't like him, don't like his policies, but still prefer him to anything that the Rassemblement national sharts out. Melenchon is my dude.

Because someone who will do whatever Putin says is better?

Pretty sure anyone who doesn't slap Putin in the face and say "I piss on Russia" is considered a puppet by the establishment these days.

[Hirota]

I was going to joke Frexit when? But then I saw this in the protests:


But seriously, perhaps instead of taking the lead on trying to dictate the terms of Brexit, he would have done better soothing over the cracks in his own government, especially when he knew full well the French people would probably want to follow us.

And now, with his position effectively untenable, it mean Le Pen will probably lead the country and it will mean a EU referendum, and then the whole EU is thrown into doubt.

[Bienenhalde]

Honestly my solution would be to give tax breaks for electric/hybrid cars/buses/trucks. Or subsidize biofuel production from crop waste like corn stalks. Anything that would reduce our reliance on gas since those of us in the Anglosphere aren't going to give up driving.

Carrots work better than sticks.

But is that actually true, or just wishful thinking from people who want more carrots?

[Bienenhalde]

Maybe the people who are causing trouble to stop the fuel tax increases should be sent to re-education camps. :^)

[Petrolheadia]

How else do you propose implementing a carbon tax if a large chunk of CO2 emissions come from burning fossil fuels for personal transportation?

Just tariff or ban the importation of internal combustion engines. It would not harm the drivers if current cars.

For someone thinking so long-term, it's quite an oversight not to notice that people like to sometimes change cars.

Also, thanks for wishing trouble for French trucking.

[Infected Mushroom]

The riots in France show that democracy cannot, for the most part, handle environmentalism

its generally incompatible

[Petrolheadia]

The riots in France show that democracy cannot, for the most part, handle environmentalism

its generally incompatible

Good to see that the people ain't buying it.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

They look like rioting Minions.