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by Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:28 am
by Cannot think of a name » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:32 am
Napkiraly wrote:Lmao imagine thinking his crime is worthy of death.
by Kaggeceria » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:41 am
by Minzerland II » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:41 am
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:44 am
by Duhon » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:49 am
by Duhon » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:53 am
Kaggeceria wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
Does it not make it fortunate ? He did not manage to infect them all and the world is rid of a criminal.
Sounds like a win/win.
Uh, they killed the dude, dragged his corpse and buried it. Probably got blood on themselves.
If he did have any of those scary preventable diseases he probably already gave it to them.
Guess we'll see if they're still there to murder people when the next Indian fishermen get shipwrecked on that island. If they aren't killed by the animals then they're gone.
by Napkiraly » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:54 am
Duhon wrote:Self-defense is literally the only reason that makes sense.
And anyway, why should one (un?)intentionally kill off an insignificant tribe of a tiny island in the southern Bay of Bengal? Why expose them to that risk?
by Caracasus » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:01 am
Napkiraly wrote:Lmao imagine thinking his crime is worthy of death.
by Caracasus » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:03 am
Duhon wrote:Self-defense is literally the only reason that makes sense.
And anyway, why should one (un?)intentionally kill off an insignificant tribe of a tiny island in the southern Bay of Bengal? Why expose them to that risk?
by Kaggeceria » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:08 am
Caracasus wrote:Napkiraly wrote:Lmao imagine thinking his crime is worthy of death.
Okay, what happened to this guy really sucks, there's few things out there that really would make me think 'yeah that person deserves shooting' and as reckless and thoughtless as this person was, he didn't deserve death. In a better universe the fishing boats were intercepted and he's waiting a trial in an Indian jail cell for endangering the population of this island etc.
However, I'm struggling to see exactly what can be done here. We don't know who killed him and the insurmountable barriers of culture and language make an investigation impossible so it's not like a normal investigation can take place.
While there are patrols and such in place around the island, if someone isn't deterred by the many, many warnings and in this instance by thr fact they fired an arrow at him the last time he dropped by, I'm struggling to see how we can reasonably expect the Indian govt. To be able to stop every determined effort.
I'm assuming your comment about bombing was a joke and you aren't detatched from reality to the extent that you'd actually be OK with that so what is the solution here?
Personlly I'm struggling to see one aside from chalking this up as a damn good reason not to go there.
by Kaggeceria » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:14 am
by Duhon » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:14 am
Caracasus wrote:Duhon wrote:Self-defense is literally the only reason that makes sense.
And anyway, why should one (un?)intentionally kill off an insignificant tribe of a tiny island in the southern Bay of Bengal? Why expose them to that risk?
We don't know the reason because we know next to nothing about their culture or understand their language.
by Bombadil » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:21 am
Kaggeceria wrote:Personally, I think the Sentinelese just need to embrace diversity. It is, after all, the current year and the murder of foreigners is really something we should not tolerate.
#openborders
by Kaggeceria » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:25 am
by Bombadil » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:27 am
Kaggeceria wrote:Personally, I think the Sentinelese just need to embrace diversity. It is, after all, the current year and the murder of foreigners is really something we should not tolerate.
#openborders
by Duhon » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:34 am
by Oil exporting People » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:52 am
by Minzerland II » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:56 am
Duhon wrote:Have any of them considered that potentially spreading disease along with the Good News is a bad thing for a would-be missionary to do? That as a man of God, you have to keep your chosen flock safe and sound, and this man didn't see to it that they were safe, never mind himself?
Mind if you carry over my objections, Bombadil?
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by Caracasus » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:08 am
Kaggeceria wrote:Caracasus wrote:
Okay, what happened to this guy really sucks, there's few things out there that really would make me think 'yeah that person deserves shooting' and as reckless and thoughtless as this person was, he didn't deserve death. In a better universe the fishing boats were intercepted and he's waiting a trial in an Indian jail cell for endangering the population of this island etc.
However, I'm struggling to see exactly what can be done here. We don't know who killed him and the insurmountable barriers of culture and language make an investigation impossible so it's not like a normal investigation can take place.
While there are patrols and such in place around the island, if someone isn't deterred by the many, many warnings and in this instance by thr fact they fired an arrow at him the last time he dropped by, I'm struggling to see how we can reasonably expect the Indian govt. To be able to stop every determined effort.
I'm assuming your comment about bombing was a joke and you aren't detatched from reality to the extent that you'd actually be OK with that so what is the solution here?
Personlly I'm struggling to see one aside from chalking this up as a damn good reason not to go there.
Personally, I'd prefer ending the idiotic idea of tribal sovereignty and then perhaps sending in some troops to quell their violent and animalistic tendencies so that they can't murder anymore fishermen and missionaries. And vaccinate the less violent ones so they don't run the risk of dying from preventable diseases.
But really what should be done right now is to retrieve the body so his family could at least give him a proper burial. The idiots who brought him there saw where it was buried. Just send in a really big boat. Make some loud noise, maybe shoot off some flairs to scare the Sentinelese (who knows, maybe they'll start worshipping the boat as a God or something). Then send in some men for quick retrieval of the corpse.
by Duhon » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:17 am
Minzerland II wrote:Duhon wrote:Have any of them considered that potentially spreading disease along with the Good News is a bad thing for a would-be missionary to do? That as a man of God, you have to keep your chosen flock safe and sound, and this man didn't see to it that they were safe, never mind himself?
Mind if you carry over my objections, Bombadil?
So will we keep the Sentinelese caged up in their island for the rest of their existence? These people, I can only see, will die to disease eventually. We are just biding time till they’re finally wiped from existence.
by Oil exporting People » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:28 am
Kaggeceria wrote:Caracasus wrote:
Okay, what happened to this guy really sucks, there's few things out there that really would make me think 'yeah that person deserves shooting' and as reckless and thoughtless as this person was, he didn't deserve death. In a better universe the fishing boats were intercepted and he's waiting a trial in an Indian jail cell for endangering the population of this island etc.
However, I'm struggling to see exactly what can be done here. We don't know who killed him and the insurmountable barriers of culture and language make an investigation impossible so it's not like a normal investigation can take place.
While there are patrols and such in place around the island, if someone isn't deterred by the many, many warnings and in this instance by thr fact they fired an arrow at him the last time he dropped by, I'm struggling to see how we can reasonably expect the Indian govt. To be able to stop every determined effort.
I'm assuming your comment about bombing was a joke and you aren't detatched from reality to the extent that you'd actually be OK with that so what is the solution here?
Personlly I'm struggling to see one aside from chalking this up as a damn good reason not to go there.
Personally, I'd prefer ending the idiotic idea of tribal sovereignty and then perhaps sending in some troops to quell their violent and animalistic tendencies so that they can't murder anymore fishermen and missionaries. And vaccinate the less violent ones so they don't run the risk of dying from preventable diseases.
But really what should be done right now is to retrieve the body so his family could at least give him a proper burial. The idiots who brought him there saw where it was buried. Just send in a really big boat. Make some loud noise, maybe shoot off some flairs to scare the Sentinelese (who knows, maybe they'll start worshipping the boat as a God or something). Then send in some men for quick retrieval of the corpse.
by The Grims » Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:28 am
Minzerland II wrote:Duhon wrote:Have any of them considered that potentially spreading disease along with the Good News is a bad thing for a would-be missionary to do? That as a man of God, you have to keep your chosen flock safe and sound, and this man didn't see to it that they were safe, never mind himself?
Mind if you carry over my objections, Bombadil?
So will we keep the Sentinelese caged up in their island for the rest of their existence? These people, I can only see, will die to disease eventually. We are just biding time till they’re finally wiped from existence.
by Minzerland II » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:06 am
The Grims wrote:Minzerland II wrote:So will we keep the Sentinelese caged up in their island for the rest of their existence? These people, I can only see, will die to disease eventually. We are just biding time till they’re finally wiped from existence.
We are talking about the oldest still existing human civilisation. By far. The Chinese, the Hindus, let alone the Christians are all infants to them. Yes, they seem primitive, stale and violent - but they seem to excel at enduring.
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
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