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Postby Andsed » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:15 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Maybe that will be what unites us with the tribes.

One nation under chicken. :lol2:

This is something I am willing to fight for. :)
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Postby The South Falls » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:17 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Maybe that will be what unites us with the tribes.

One nation under chicken. :lol2:

Indivisible, with legs and wings for all.
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The South Falls wrote:True dat. We had mass and then a bunch of Christmas chicken and cookies at church last year.

Have you ever been to a feast hosted by a newly opened church? The food there will make you believe, I’ll tell you that.

No, but I've been to the one at our school's auction. Purely amazing.
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Postby Ors Might » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:18 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Luminesa wrote:One nation under chicken. :lol2:

Indivisible, with legs and wings for all.
Ors Might wrote:Have you ever been to a feast hosted by a newly opened church? The food there will make you believe, I’ll tell you that.

No, but I've been to the one at our school's auction. Purely amazing.

The British Empire might still be around if they had fried chicken.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:20 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Luminesa wrote:One nation under chicken. :lol2:

Indivisible, with legs and wings for all.
Ors Might wrote:Have you ever been to a feast hosted by a newly opened church? The food there will make you believe, I’ll tell you that.

No, but I've been to the one at our school's auction. Purely amazing.

I pledge allegiance to the KFC bucket of the united chicken republic and to food for which it stands one nation under chicken Indivisible, with legs and wings for all.
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Postby Ors Might » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:22 pm

Andsed wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Indivisible, with legs and wings for all.

No, but I've been to the one at our school's auction. Purely amazing.

I pledge allegiance to the KFC bucket of the united chicken republic and to food for which it stands one nation under chicken Indivisible, with legs and wings for all.

Amen.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:23 pm

Andsed wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Indivisible, with legs and wings for all.

No, but I've been to the one at our school's auction. Purely amazing.

I pledge allegiance to the KFC bucket of the united chicken republic and to food for which it stands one nation under chicken Indivisible, with legs and wings for all.


Why do people even like wings? There's no meat on them. Buffalo drumsticks or thighs should be the thing.

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Postby Andsed » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:25 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Andsed wrote:I pledge allegiance to the KFC bucket of the united chicken republic and to food for which it stands one nation under chicken Indivisible, with legs and wings for all.


Why do people even like wings? There's no meat on them. Buffalo drumsticks or thighs should be the thing.

OH HELL NAW... Actually buffalo drumsticks don't sound that bad but wings are still delicious you food heretic. Also we should probably get back on topic so we don't get the thread locked due to chicken.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:26 pm

Kind of weird how a person's death in a remote island off India became global news..
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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:27 pm

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Northern Davincia wrote:The Amish are doing quite fine while performing honest work. How are you able to determine what a comfortable life is?

Well a comfortable life is what you think and for most that includes food and a house which you get through working hard and making money. And for these islanders a comfortable life is unknown but we can assume by their standards many of them are fine.

Their standards lack fire of all things. Let's say you spend your life dedicated to comfort, and another person dedicates their life to charity. Who has lived the better life?
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Postby Andsed » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:30 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Andsed wrote:Well a comfortable life is what you think and for most that includes food and a house which you get through working hard and making money. And for these islanders a comfortable life is unknown but we can assume by their standards many of them are fine.

Their standards lack fire of all things. Let's say you spend your life dedicated to comfort, and another person dedicates their life to charity. Who has lived the better life?

That's down to personal opinion. And I don't see how it applies to the islanders.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:30 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Andsed wrote:Well a comfortable life is what you think and for most that includes food and a house which you get through working hard and making money. And for these islanders a comfortable life is unknown but we can assume by their standards many of them are fine.

Their standards lack fire of all things. Let's say you spend your life dedicated to comfort, and another person dedicates their life to charity. Who has lived the better life?


The one who is happy.

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Postby Grimmsland » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:30 pm

The islanders affect themselves, obviously. Not to be too emotional, but do you want their infants to die? Do you want them to continue to have poor nutrition? Do you want them to die of easily treated medical conditions? This status quo is ridiculously terrible. "Preserving their way of life" is preserving infant mortality, malnutrition, and miniscule life expectancy. I'm not sure how at the present moment, but it is clear they must be introduced at some point to global humanity.



Don't care. Don't care. Don't care. If it were up to me all westerners romping about the planet to bring civilization , medical treatments , democracy and empowerment of women would be outlawed. I'd also remove all infrastructure that they themselves didn't build and confiscate all technology and weapons that they've been given , sold or traded by said westerners. No airports , no ports. The world would be a much better place if westerners would stop playing GOD and leave people that are not you , be. You're going to be the end of this planet and humanity itself -- you pompous holier-than-thou do-gooding assholes. Not only do you go around the planet siphoning resources and destroying environments - you can't even have the decency to take what you need and get the hell out without trying to turn them into YOU. You suck. No wonder the west is being flooded by third worlders -- it's pay back for what you've done. I hope they strain your economies to the breaking point and burn it all down. Hail Wotan .. Hail all indigenous gods. Stick Rome and Abraham up your rears.

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Postby Andsed » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:31 pm

Bombadil wrote:Kind of weird how a person's death in a remote island off India became global news..

We have had thread debating if we should ban dogs don't underestimate human ability to make mountains out of mole hills.

Grimmsland wrote:
The islanders affect themselves, obviously. Not to be too emotional, but do you want their infants to die? Do you want them to continue to have poor nutrition? Do you want them to die of easily treated medical conditions? This status quo is ridiculously terrible. "Preserving their way of life" is preserving infant mortality, malnutrition, and miniscule life expectancy. I'm not sure how at the present moment, but it is clear they must be introduced at some point to global humanity.



Don't care. Don't care. Don't care. If it were up to me all westerners romping about the planet to bring civilization , medical treatments , democracy and empowerment of women would be outlawed. I'd also remove all infrastructure that they themselves didn't build and confiscate all technology and weapons that they've been given , sold or traded by said westerners. No airports , no ports. The world would be a much better place if westerners would stop playing GOD and leave people that are not you , be. You're going to be the end of this planet and humanity itself -- you pompous holier-than-thou do-gooding assholes. Not only do you go around the planet siphoning resources and destroying environments - you can't even have the decency to take what you need and get the hell out without trying to turn them into YOU. You suck. No wonder the west is being flooded by third worlders -- it's pay back for what you've done. I hope they strain your economies to the breaking point and burn it all down. Hail Wotan .. Hail all indigenous gods. Stick Rome and Abraham up your rears.

Ow I just cut myself on that edge.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:33 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-wampanoag-reservation-thanksgiving_us_5bf5b80de4b03b230f9e44ac

Natives should kill Americans on sight. It's only sensible from their point of view.

Sooooo...pushing for unlawful murder on American soil now? Awesome.

Also, Natives are Americans. You making them to be an “other” in society only makes them more vulnerable to violence against them. It’s why violence against gay and transgender folks is a thing. It doesn’t empower them to say they are separate from Americans, we’ve seen that this exact mindset is what led to things like the Trail of Tears. And you have no room to say what is “sensible” while calling for the deaths of people “on sight”.

I mean you are talking to someone who said about the young man killed by this tribe "Fuck him and his arrogance" so it really wouldn't be a deviation.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:35 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Sooooo...pushing for unlawful murder on American soil now? Awesome.

Also, Natives are Americans. You making them to be an “other” in society only makes them more vulnerable to violence against them. It’s why violence against gay and transgender folks is a thing. It doesn’t empower them to say they are separate from Americans, we’ve seen that this exact mindset is what led to things like the Trail of Tears. And you have no room to say what is “sensible” while calling for the deaths of people “on sight”.

I mean you are talking to someone who said about the young man killed by this tribe "Fuck him and his arrogance" so it really wouldn't be a deviation.


You have a typo in your signature.

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Postby Andsed » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:36 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Sooooo...pushing for unlawful murder on American soil now? Awesome.

Also, Natives are Americans. You making them to be an “other” in society only makes them more vulnerable to violence against them. It’s why violence against gay and transgender folks is a thing. It doesn’t empower them to say they are separate from Americans, we’ve seen that this exact mindset is what led to things like the Trail of Tears. And you have no room to say what is “sensible” while calling for the deaths of people “on sight”.

I mean you are talking to someone who said about the young man killed by this tribe "Fuck him and his arrogance" so it really wouldn't be a deviation.

TBH the dude was kind of stupid I mean you would think after the first four or five times he would get the message that the natives don't want him there.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:38 pm

Andsed wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:I mean you are talking to someone who said about the young man killed by this tribe "Fuck him and his arrogance" so it really wouldn't be a deviation.

TBH the dude was kind of stupid I mean you would think after the first four or five times he would get the message that the natives don't want him there.


He wasn't stupid, he was motivated by the urge to share the love of Jesus.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:39 pm

Andsed wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:I mean you are talking to someone who said about the young man killed by this tribe "Fuck him and his arrogance" so it really wouldn't be a deviation.

TBH the dude was kind of stupid I mean you would think after the first four or five times he would get the message that the natives don't want him there.

#BlameTheVictim

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Postby The South Falls » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:42 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Andsed wrote:TBH the dude was kind of stupid I mean you would think after the first four or five times he would get the message that the natives don't want him there.

#BlameTheVictim

It was terrible what they did to him. But he shouldn't have been there. They shouldn't have killed him.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:43 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Andsed wrote:TBH the dude was kind of stupid I mean you would think after the first four or five times he would get the message that the natives don't want him there.


He wasn't stupid, he was motivated by the urge to share the love of Jesus.

And they chased him off multiple times, he's an idiot.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:44 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
He wasn't stupid, he was motivated by the urge to share the love of Jesus.

And they chased him off multiple times, he's an idiot.

I feel sorry for him, but the fact that they let him live before is incredible.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:44 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Andsed wrote:TBH the dude was kind of stupid I mean you would think after the first four or five times he would get the message that the natives don't want him there.

#BlameTheVictim

Yeah I do put some of the blame on him. He went to the island four or five times and each time he was treated hostility. What the hell did he expect would happen? If this was the first time he went there I would not really blame him but he knew what would happen if he went and he chose to do so. Yes the men who shot him does carry most of the blame but he carries a lot of it as well.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:45 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
He wasn't stupid, he was motivated by the urge to share the love of Jesus.

And they chased him off multiple times, he's an idiot.


They just hadn't felt the love yet, it was incumbent on him to keep trying.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:51 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-wampanoag-reservation-thanksgiving_us_5bf5b80de4b03b230f9e44ac

Natives should kill Americans on sight. It's only sensible from their point of view.

Honestly we should just dissolve all of the tribal land entirely. There’s no need to have the natives in this second class citizen limbo
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Postby Reikoku » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:51 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Andsed wrote:TBH the dude was kind of stupid I mean you would think after the first four or five times he would get the message that the natives don't want him there.


He wasn't stupid, he was motivated by the urge to share the love of Jesus.


Or to feed his own ego. Considering he broke the law and bribed several fishermen to take him, was let off numerous times by the tribe, and could have wiped them all out due to outside diseases, I'm inclined to think it was the latter.

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