What did the Nazis do for us?

[Dahon]

This thread is gonna really piss off some people

*Jephthah's daughter mode ON*

... hi.

[Geneviev]

The Nazis built the Autobahn and gave us VW. As much as I hate to say this, they didn't only do terrible things. They also ruined Europe and caused Germany to be destroyed completely. Not to mention the atomic bomb.

This thread is gonna really piss off some people

Well... you have to acknowledge that Nazis weren't pure evil.

[Internationalist Bastard]

The Nazis built the Autobahn and gave us VW. As much as I hate to say this, they didn't only do terrible things. They also ruined Europe and caused Germany to be destroyed completely. Not to mention the atomic bomb.

This thread is gonna really piss off some people

Well... you have to acknowledge that Nazis weren't pure evil.

I wouldn’t go that far
Making a highway and soda doesn’t balance out shoving people into gas chambers

[Geneviev]

The Nazis built the Autobahn and gave us VW. As much as I hate to say this, they didn't only do terrible things. They also ruined Europe and caused Germany to be destroyed completely. Not to mention the atomic bomb.


Well... you have to acknowledge that Nazis weren't pure evil.

I wouldn’t go that far
Making a highway and soda doesn’t balance out shoving people into gas chambers

And cars. And me. But the gas chambers kind of ruined it.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I wouldn’t go that far
Making a highway and soda doesn’t balance out shoving people into gas chambers

And cars. And me. But the gas chambers kind of ruined it.

Dare I ask how nazis made you?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I suppose there is Fanta - the orange drink with the bitter aftertaste of totalitarianism.

Ick, Fanta tastes like liquid sugar.

No wonder such a bad drink came from them.

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As for the OP:

They did some rocket science and stumbled a way to restart an economy.

But the crime, the killing, the riots, the genocide, the war- All this and more are reasons why the nazis where pure scum.

[Geneviev]

And cars. And me. But the gas chambers kind of ruined it.

Dare I ask how nazis made you?

I'm the German version of Captain America
My grandparents were in the party. So depending how you see it Nazis contributed to my existence.

[Thermodolia]

Created a really really annoying group of fan boys on the internet who beat themsevles off to anything they made as being the best thing ever made.

I mean you can say that about the Soviets as well really.

At least Soviet tanks actually worked

[Thermodolia]

The Nazis were brutal killers, but when it came to technological development, they were absolute geniuses.

Unless you consider overengineered crap a great technological development than sure

[Ostroeuropa]

I mean you can say that about the Soviets as well really.

At least Soviet tanks actually worked

The German tanks were designed to fail and that's not necessarily a bad thing in a total war scenario where all resources are devoted to the war effort. It lets them pump out more tanks.

Your one tank that'll work for years and is repairable and so on is gonna break on its first day if its put up against three tanks that will fail in a week but can be produced three times as quickly and cheaply.

The soviets also applied this principle, but with infantry.

[Thermodolia]

The V-2 rocket which had Werner von Braun involved? And they had a nuclear program under Heisenberg, although they were defeated before completing it.

Alright, Von Braun was in that "not much" caveat. Their nuclear program was a joke until the very end of the war, and and that point, it was just starting.

Not to mention the Nazi high command considered nuclear science to be Jewish physics.

[Ostroeuropa]

Alright, Von Braun was in that "not much" caveat. Their nuclear program was a joke until the very end of the war, and and that point, it was just starting.

Not to mention the Nazi high command considered nuclear science to be Jewish physics.

The Nazis might have won if they weren't such fucking Nazi's has been noted a few times.
Their opportunity to develop nukes, their opportunity to recruit a mass revolt against Stalin, all pissed away, along with material vital to the war effort being wasted on gassing Jews and it being clear by the start of the war that negotiation was pointless as they were an ideology devoted to permanent war and expansion, which necessitated unconditional surrender as peace terms.

Even with active genocide against the people of the USSR being common knowledge, recruitment to defend it was difficult and there were lots of desertions because of how shit it was and how badly people wanted to revolt.

Germany could have entered as liberators, but fucked it up.

A more rational Germany could have taken advantage of a lot of the blunders the allies and soviets made to possible produce a victory and sue for a peace that the allies might have been more inclined to agree to because they wouldn't have viewed it as merely an armistice with an inherently hostile nation.

That's before you even take account of the morale devestation Naziism induced on its adherents as seen in the suicide rates among troops involved with the slaughters. I've noted elsewhere that the easiest evidence for the evil of Naziism is that even its strongest advocates couldn't handle the implementation of its ideas without psychological trauma.

Beyond the suicide rates you've got the PTSD and its effect on the troops and the irrational behaviors it leads to and so on.

[Xmara]

Dare I ask how nazis made you?

I'm the German version of Captain America
My grandparents were in the party. So depending how you see it Nazis contributed to my existence.

Which reminds me: I forgot to mention that two of my great-uncles on my mom’s side were in the US Army in WWII and came back with silverware they stole from Hitler (at least that’s what they claim; nobody’s had it authenticated so we’re just taking their word for it). Don’t know who inherited it when they died. I think I got to see what it looked like once when I was 8 or 9. Meanwhile my grandpa was in the US Navy and came back with a sword he stole off the body of a dead Japanese soldier at Okinawa.

So, yeah. If it wasn’t for Nazi Germany then Hitler’s silverware wouldn’t be in my family’s possession.

[Thermodolia]

Not to mention the Nazi high command considered nuclear science to be Jewish physics.

The Nazis might have won if they weren't such fucking Nazi's has been noted a few times.
Their opportunity to develop nukes, their opportunity to recruit a mass revolt against Stalin, all pissed away, along with material vital to the war effort being wasted on gassing Jews and it being clear by the start of the war that negotiation was pointless as they were an ideology devoted to permanent war and expansion, which necessitated unconditional surrender as peace terms.

Even with active genocide against the people of the USSR being common knowledge, recruitment to defend it was difficult and there were lots of desertions because of how shit it was and how badly people wanted to revolt.

Germany could have entered as liberators, but fucked it up.

A more rational Germany could have taken advantage of a lot of the blunders the allies and soviets made to possible produce a victory and sue for a peace that the allies might have been more inclined to agree to because they wouldn't have viewed it as merely an armistice with an inherently hostile nation.

A more rational Germany would have probably tried to get the allies on their side before they pushed into the Soviet Union.

[Ostroeuropa]

The Nazis might have won if they weren't such fucking Nazi's has been noted a few times.
Their opportunity to develop nukes, their opportunity to recruit a mass revolt against Stalin, all pissed away, along with material vital to the war effort being wasted on gassing Jews and it being clear by the start of the war that negotiation was pointless as they were an ideology devoted to permanent war and expansion, which necessitated unconditional surrender as peace terms.

Even with active genocide against the people of the USSR being common knowledge, recruitment to defend it was difficult and there were lots of desertions because of how shit it was and how badly people wanted to revolt.

Germany could have entered as liberators, but fucked it up.

A more rational Germany could have taken advantage of a lot of the blunders the allies and soviets made to possible produce a victory and sue for a peace that the allies might have been more inclined to agree to because they wouldn't have viewed it as merely an armistice with an inherently hostile nation.

A more rational Germany would have probably tried to get the allies on their side before they pushed into the Soviet Union.

It would have been far more difficult to justify continuing the war if Germany had withdrawn from France entirely after ensuring a surrender/peace too, and done the same with Poland (Save for Danzig.). But that would not have been something Nazis were capable of accepting.

When it becomes a war to take Danzig from Germany rather than Liberate Poland (Who have begrudgingly recognized the new borders and are now an independent state Germany is working to mend relations with) And France And Stop The Nazi Menace, "Why die for Danzig?" becomes a much more potent question.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Create a cancerous ideology that is, sadly, still fanboyed over by an unfortunate amount of people.

[Bombadil]

I guess one could argue they saved Britain's reputation, in defeating the Germans and Nazis Britain is seen as one of the good guys as opposed to the vicious colonialists that they were, concentration camps.. yay Boer War..

Essentially they clearly defined the 'baddies' of world history, which glosses over a whole load of atrocious acts by the 'good guys'.

[Infected Mushroom]

They inspired very fun movies to watch like the Boy in the Striped Pyjamas.

No Nazis, no movies like that.

No "Remus Lupin" Nazi officer sitting at a family dinner chastising "Joffrey" about his father's disloyalty to the Regime. And when a nervous Joffrey lashes out by beating the Jewish server... Lupin chills and eats a sausage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTy7ySwT1Js

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That and Israel.

No Nazi Germany = no Israel.

[Washington Resistance Army]

They inspired very fun movies to watch like the Boy in the Striped Pyjamas.

You mean the one where some kids get carted into a gas chamber and killed? That's your idea of a fun movie?

[Infected Mushroom]

They inspired very fun movies to watch like the Boy in the Striped Pyjamas.

You mean the one where some kids get carted into a gas chamber and killed? That's your idea of a fun movie?

I like that movie. Thewlis is great in that movie.

I like the entire setup of it.

[Mattopilos II]

They inspired very fun movies to watch like the Boy in the Striped Pyjamas.

You mean the one where some kids get carted into a gas chamber and killed? That's your idea of a fun movie?

You see, we couldn't get an authentic genocide of the Jews flick without actual genocide of Jews.
/sarc

[The Huskar Social Union]

They inspired very fun movies to watch like the Boy in the Striped Pyjamas.

You mean the one where some kids get carted into a gas chamber and killed? That's your idea of a fun movie?

Fun for the whole family! Yay!

[Infected Mushroom]

You mean the one where some kids get carted into a gas chamber and killed? That's your idea of a fun movie?

Fun for the whole family! Yay!

It’s not even particularly family unfriendly.

But then I watched Ghost Ship when 10 years old. In my family we take no issue with excessive violence on tv...

[The New California Republic]

Heidegger was arguably the greatest philosopher of the 20th Century.

Much of Heidegger's work, at least the kernel of it, was already well-established before his entanglement with nazism. And even then, it could be argued that his work during the thirties and forties can, for the most part, be partitioned off from that aspect of his character...

[The New California Republic]

They inspired very fun movies to watch like the Boy in the Striped Pyjamas.

If you are calling movies about concentration camps "fun", then your definition of fun must be seriously off-beam...