What did the Nazis do for us?

[Baltenstein]

No Versailles was to fucking weak and not enforced. If the British had put aside their distrust of the French and gone with the French version there wouldn’t haven’t been any WW2.

Hell if they had threatened to invade Germany after they rearmed the Rhineland WW2 would have been a total German embarrassment

If i remember Hitler actually had orders for the german military to retreat from the rhineland if it was challenged by the French, he only sent a handful of battalions too i believe, nothing that could have taken on the french army in an immediate fight. But france had its own issues at that time.

Not doing so actually kind of fucked over the allies come 1940, as the Belgians switched to a policy of neutrality after the Germans reoccupied the Rhineland and saw that the French did nothing and thus didnt want to rely on them as much as they did before. As the original French plan was to meet the Germans in northern Belgium along the Meuse river with the Belgian army, however they were not able to take up positions in Belgian soil because of Belgiums new foreign policy, so when Belgium was invaded they were not quick enough to take up those positions and had to fight further west in open ground which hampered their plans.

Missed chances to stop Nazi Germany's aggression in its tracks:

1936, when a militarily unprepared German army gambled the Rhineland back under its control.
1938, when German officers secretly urged Western representatives at Munich to take a hard stance against Hitler to create a pretext for couping him out of power.
1939, when the vast majority of the German military was engaged in Poland, with Germany's western flank and its core industries virtually undefendened with Germany having less than 20 divisions against the combined 120+ divisions of the Allies standing at the border.
1940, when the French failed to realize that the bulk of the German tank forces was slogging its way through the Ardennes forests, where they could have easily been trapped and destroyed, before it was too late.

So yeah all in all, that's quite an example of hindsight being 20/20.

[Duvniask]

If i remember Hitler actually had orders for the german military to retreat from the rhineland if it was challenged by the French, he only sent a handful of battalions too i believe, nothing that could have taken on the french army in an immediate fight. But france had its own issues at that time.

Not doing so actually kind of fucked over the allies come 1940, as the Belgians switched to a policy of neutrality after the Germans reoccupied the Rhineland and saw that the French did nothing and thus didnt want to rely on them as much as they did before. As the original French plan was to meet the Germans in northern Belgium along the Meuse river with the Belgian army, however they were not able to take up positions in Belgian soil because of Belgiums new foreign policy, so when Belgium was invaded they were not quick enough to take up those positions and had to fight further west in open ground which hampered their plans.

Missed chances to stop Nazi Germany's aggression in its tracks:

1936, when a militarily unprepared German army gambled the Rhineland back under its control.
1938, when German officers secretly urged Western representatives at Munich to take a hard stance against Hitler to create a pretext for couping him out of power.
1939, when the vast majority of the German military was engaged in Poland, with Germany's western flank and its core industries virtually undefendened with Germany having less than 20 divisions against the combined 120+ divisions of the Allies standing at the border.
1940, when the French failed to realize that the bulk of the German tank forces was slogging its way through the Ardennes forests, where they could have easily been trapped and destroyed, before it was too late.

So yeah all in all, that's quite an example of hindsight being 20/20.

Not to mention the Czechoslovak-Soviet Treaty of Alliance, itself a result of the Franco-Soviet Treaty of Mutual Assistance from 1935. Essentially the Czechoslovak-Soviet Treaty stipulated that France had to give aid to the victim of aggression (were it the USSR or Czechoslovakia) in order for it to go into effect - and France chose to go along with the Munich Agreement instead. Sacrebleu, France.

We might've had a two-front war in 1938, although, ironically, Poland was in the way and would probably not have allowed the Red Army passage through their country anyway.

[Thermodolia]

No Versailles was to fucking weak and not enforced. If the British had put aside their distrust of the French and gone with the French version there wouldn’t haven’t been any WW2.

Hell if they had threatened to invade Germany after they rearmed the Rhineland WW2 would have been a total German embarrassment

The only thing that making Versailles even worse would have caused is for the French to get marched into the death camps instead of Slavs.

I don’t exactly see how. Especially since the French plan was to literally occupy/annex the Rhineland and puppet southern Germany and the area near the Netherlands. All Germany would have gotten is the area right around Berlin as the Polish would have gotten Königsberg and Denmark would have gotten Schleswig-Holstein.

Germany would have been too poor to do shit

[Washington Resistance Army]

The only thing that making Versailles even worse would have caused is for the French to get marched into the death camps instead of Slavs.

I don’t exactly see how. Especially since the French plan was to literally occupy/annex the Rhineland and puppet southern Germany and the area near the Netherlands. All Germany would have gotten is the area right around Berlin as the Polish would have gotten Königsberg and Denmark would have gotten Schleswig-Holstein.

Germany would have been too poor to do shit

You can't actually believe that plan would have worked lol

[Katganistan]

They gave us villains for the Castle Wolfenstein series of video game, countless games (video and board) about WWII, plenty of movies like Casablanca and Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Hogan's Heroes.

[Thermodolia]

I don’t exactly see how. Especially since the French plan was to literally occupy/annex the Rhineland and puppet southern Germany and the area near the Netherlands. All Germany would have gotten is the area right around Berlin as the Polish would have gotten Königsberg and Denmark would have gotten Schleswig-Holstein.

Germany would have been too poor to do shit

You can't actually believe that plan would have worked lol

The French already occupied the Rhineland in real life. So yes I do think it could have worked. The reason why the British where against it is because they feared the French would control all of Europe again.

Besides part of the plan was used after WW2 anyway. The French plan would have just made that one happen sooner.

[Atheris]

You can't actually believe that plan would have worked lol

The French already occupied the Rhineland in real life. So yes I do think it could have worked. The reason why the British where against it is because they feared the French would control all of Europe again.

Besides part of the plan was used after WW2 anyway. The French plan would have just made that one happen sooner.

I mean, the French did get to Moscow...

[Saiwania]

National Socialism gave inspiration and a blueprint for all fascist movements to follow, in terms of the rise to power. Magnificent and almost without flaw, with the best orator and leader at the helm (before he became crazy). There will never quite be another political movement like it ever again, but there is hope for a 4th Reich in the far future. Although probably not in Germany, and the core tenants and platform modified to better suit our contemporary politics and global situation.

[Infected Mushroom]

National Socialism gave inspiration and a blueprint for all fascist movements to follow, in terms of the rise to power. Magnificent and almost without flaw, with the best orator and leader at the helm (before he became crazy). There will never quite be another political movement like it ever again, but there is hope for a 4th Reich in the far future. Although probably not in Germany, and the core tenants and platform modified to better suit our contemporary politics and global situation.

A 4th Reich?

Where do you think there’s more chance then Germany?

USA or?

[Xmara]

National Socialism gave inspiration and a blueprint for all fascist movements to follow, in terms of the rise to power. Magnificent and almost without flaw, with the best orator and leader at the helm (before he became crazy). There will never quite be another political movement like it ever again, but there is hope for a 4th Reich in the far future. Although probably not in Germany, and the core tenants and platform modified to better suit our contemporary politics and global situation.

You say this like it would be a good thing.

[Dark Socialism]

National Socialism gave inspiration and a blueprint for all fascist movements to follow, in terms of the rise to power. Magnificent and almost without flaw, with the best orator and leader at the helm (before he became crazy). There will never quite be another political movement like it ever again, but there is hope for a 4th Reich in the far future. Although probably not in Germany, and the core tenants and platform modified to better suit our contemporary politics and global situation.

You say this like it would be a good thing.

Because it is

[The South Falls]

You say this like it would be a good thing.

Because it is

You'd like a world where Jews, black people, Chinese people, and... just about anyone who isn't white is imprisoned?

I wouldn't. Considering that I'd probably have to flee.

[Dark Socialism]

Because it is

You'd like a world where Jews, black people, Chinese people, and... just about anyone who isn't white is imprisoned?

I wouldn't. Considering that I'd probably have to flee.

Mostly just Chinese people (because of ethnic reasons) but sure, a Racial Empire has to be intolerant towards other races

[Petrolheadia]

You'd like a world where Jews, black people, Chinese people, and... just about anyone who isn't white is imprisoned?

I wouldn't. Considering that I'd probably have to flee.

Mostly just Chinese people (because of ethnic reasons) but sure.

"Ethnic reasons"

What kind of bullshit it exactly is?

[The South Falls]

You'd like a world where Jews, black people, Chinese people, and... just about anyone who isn't white is imprisoned?

I wouldn't. Considering that I'd probably have to flee.

Mostly just Chinese people (because of ethnic reasons) but sure.

That's not how that would work. The government would need to find multiple races and classes to demonize if it was to survive in a fascist way. That would mean that the people would be harnessed against certain races for the benefit of the regime. It is naiive to believe that picking and choosing races to demonize would be the process of the nation.

And what do you have against Chinese people?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Because it is

You'd like a world where Jews, black people, Chinese people, and... just about anyone who isn't white is imprisoned?

I wouldn't. Considering that I'd probably have to flee.

Also include all those white people who are the wrong kind of white people, like the slavs for example.

[Dark Socialism]

Mostly just Chinese people (because of ethnic reasons) but sure.

That's not how that would work. The government would need to find multiple races and classes to demonize if it was to survive in a fascist way. That would mean that the people would be harnessed against certain races for the benefit of the regime. It is naiive to believe that picking and choosing races to demonize would be the process of the nation.

And what do you have against Chinese people?

There's a billion of them killing the earth, colonizing America, East Africa and Tibet and they killed many of my ancestors in WW2

[The South Falls]

That's not how that would work. The government would need to find multiple races and classes to demonize if it was to survive in a fascist way. That would mean that the people would be harnessed against certain races for the benefit of the regime. It is naiive to believe that picking and choosing races to demonize would be the process of the nation.

And what do you have against Chinese people?

There's a billion of them killing the earth, colonizing America, East Africa and Tibet and they killed many of my ancestors in WW2

Your ancestors are Japanese? And also, that's the CPC. The people shouldn't be punished for that.

[The South Falls]

You'd like a world where Jews, black people, Chinese people, and... just about anyone who isn't white is imprisoned?

I wouldn't. Considering that I'd probably have to flee.

Also include all those white people who are the wrong kind of white people, like the slavs for example.

There's only like 30-60 million people that fit the right definition.

[Dark Socialism]

You'd like a world where Jews, black people, Chinese people, and... just about anyone who isn't white is imprisoned?

I wouldn't. Considering that I'd probably have to flee.

Also include all those white people who are the wrong kind of white people, like the slavs for example.

A neo-nazi regime in America would probably be Pan-European due to America being so mongrelized

[Petrolheadia]

That's not how that would work. The government would need to find multiple races and classes to demonize if it was to survive in a fascist way. That would mean that the people would be harnessed against certain races for the benefit of the regime. It is naiive to believe that picking and choosing races to demonize would be the process of the nation.

And what do you have against Chinese people?

There's a billion of them killing the earth, colonizing America, East Africa and Tibet and they killed many of my ancestors in WW2

Economic colonization is best colonization. Gave my nation tons of outsourced jobs and cheap used cars.

[The South Falls]

Also include all those white people who are the wrong kind of white people, like the slavs for example.

A neo-nazi regime in America would probably be Pan-European due to America being so mongrelized

Mongrelized by who?

[Ifreann]

National Socialism gave inspiration and a blueprint for all fascist movements to follow, in terms of the rise to power. Magnificent and almost without flaw, with the best orator and leader at the helm (before he became crazy). There will never quite be another political movement like it ever again, but there is hope for a 4th Reich in the far future. Although probably not in Germany, and the core tenants and platform modified to better suit our contemporary politics and global situation.

You say this like it would be a good thing.

Well he's a racist and a fascist, so yes, naturally he would rather like a Fourth Reich. Up until it was crushed by the free world.

[Dark Socialism]

A neo-nazi regime in America would probably be Pan-European due to America being so mongrelized

Mongrelized by who?

Americans themselves

[The South Falls]

Mongrelized by who?

Americans themselves

That implies some of us are mongrels. Who?