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Postby Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:39 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Olerand wrote:The Bonapartes themselves? No they don't rule any countries.


Well the Trastamara are gone so... And the Spanish Hapsburgs as well... The Bourbon won the war, so they get to rule, as things went back then.

I know they don’t rule anything but they exist as pretenders

Oh sure, but not as descendants of Napoléon I or III... So... At least the others can claim Louis XIV, or his gay brother...
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:41 pm

New haven america wrote:
Kubra wrote:But less people driving in France is a good thing, french drivers are a safety hazard let's be real

Also, less car pollution is always a good thing.

2 birds with 1 stone, nice.

I know, because who cares about people who have to use their car for their livelihood? :roll:
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Postby Kowani » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:42 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
New haven america wrote:Also, less car pollution is always a good thing.

2 birds with 1 stone, nice.

I know, because who cares about people who have to use their car for their livelihood. :roll:

Now, I may be wrong, because doesn’t France have a pretty decent public transportation system?
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Postby Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:44 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
New haven america wrote:Also, less car pollution is always a good thing.

2 birds with 1 stone, nice.

I know, because who cares about people who have to use their car for their livelihood. :roll:

Well people would care more if they actually talked about that. About how hard it is to live in areas not served by effective public transportation, how hard it is to find good paying jobs, etc. It would be a good catalyst to a national discussion.

This, however... Isn't it.

The government has also announced assistance measures to low-income workers, but not low-middle income or middle-income.

Kowani wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I know, because who cares about people who have to use their car for their livelihood. :roll:

Now, I may be wrong, because doesn’t France have a pretty decent public transportation system?

When you live in the middle of nowhere, with no nearby hub or populous agglomeration, not really. It is impossible to do so, nobody has that, not even Japan.
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Postby Baltenstein » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:46 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Olerand wrote:The Bonapartes themselves? No they don't rule any countries.


Well the Trastamara are gone so... And the Spanish Hapsburgs as well... The Bourbon won the war, so they get to rule, as things went back then.

I know they don’t rule anything but they exist as pretenders


Tradition dictates that a Bonaparte has to be republican dictator before crowning himself monarch, so in order to restore House Bonaparte, we'll have to do that first. (Also, a military expedition of some kind in some far away land beyond the sea has to happen, because tradition.)
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Postby US-SSR » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:36 pm

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Form your battalions.


March on, march on, until the foreigners' impure blood waters our fields.
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We're not going to control the pandemic!

It is a slaughter and not just a political dispute.

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Postby Painisia » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:39 pm

Maybe Mr Macron should pump more subsidies to green means of transportation?
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Postby Kaggeceria » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:40 pm

US-SSR wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:To arms citizens.
Form your battalions.


March on, march on, until the foreigners' impure blood waters our fields.

But I mean they'd be fighting each other, not foreigners.
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Postby US-SSR » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:49 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
US-SSR wrote:
March on, march on, until the foreigners' impure blood waters our fields.

But I mean they'd be fighting each other, not foreigners.


Just finishing the translation of the Marsaillaise.
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We're not going to control the pandemic!

It is a slaughter and not just a political dispute.

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Postby Teachian » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:11 pm

Besides some minor discussion on the actual topic, NS’ first inclination was to discuss the next French Revolution and how to get another Bonaparte on the throne.

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Postby Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:23 pm

Painisia wrote:Maybe Mr Macron should pump more subsidies to green means of transportation?

Like the SNCF? Not happening, he's eyeing competition in the sector, and probably later privatization. Electric vehicles? Not pragmatic, considering their usability, the problems with their batteries, and the massive investment needed to ensure the necessary infrastructure.

The current government isn't big on investments, it can't be, we can't scratch a 3% deficit.
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Postby Kubra » Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:07 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
New haven america wrote:Also, less car pollution is always a good thing.

2 birds with 1 stone, nice.

I know, because who cares about people who have to use their car for their livelihood? :roll:
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:57 pm

If it were up to me, I would call in the French Army and crush/disperse the rebellion. Protests are a threat to public safety and they spread very easily.

I don’t see how France tolerates this.

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Postby Kustonia » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:02 pm

New haven america wrote:
Kubra wrote: The extra tax income can be used to clean the paris metro of its piss smell
This couldn't be better!

Jeez, now I'm against the protestors, they're having all this nice stuff basically handed to them and they just want to complain.


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Postby New haven america » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:05 pm

Kustonia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Jeez, now I'm against the protestors, they're having all this nice stuff basically handed to them and they just want to complain.


Basically every Liberal and immigrant in the world. Selfishness is nothing new, it has its origins in the Enlightenment Era.

A. I'm not a liberal. Hahahaha~
B. And the Right doesn't understand what humor and sarcasm is
C. How is helping the world to make sure newer generations have an easier life and actually have a planet to live on selfish?
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Postby Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:12 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:If it were up to me, I would call in the French Army and crush/disperse the rebellion. Protests are a threat to public safety and they spread very easily.

I don’t see how France tolerates this.

... Right... :lol2:
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Postby Kubra » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:37 pm

Kustonia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Jeez, now I'm against the protestors, they're having all this nice stuff basically handed to them and they just want to complain.


Basically every Liberal and immigrant in the world. Selfishness is nothing new, it has its origins in the Enlightenment Era.
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Postby Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:39 pm

Kubra wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
Basically every Liberal and immigrant in the world. Selfishness is nothing new, it has its origins in the Enlightenment Era.
wooooooosh

The funny thing is I don't think anybody at the protest would consider themselves a liberal, nor a friend to liberalism.
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Postby Kustonia » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:39 pm

New haven america wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
Basically every Liberal and immigrant in the world. Selfishness is nothing new, it has its origins in the Enlightenment Era.

A. I'm not a liberal. Hahahaha~
B. And the Right doesn't understand what humor and sarcasm is
C. How is helping the world to make sure newer generations have an easier life and actually have a planet to live on selfish?


If you are saying that welfare and food stamps make people have an easier life, you are foolishly mistaken. People must do things and accomplish tasks to be happy. Newer generations are looking for belonging and community, not human rights. Human rights make people independent of their community because there are no duties and responsibilities to be had. Young people need training and leadership for proper guidance. One does not develop respect alone, it must be cultivated.
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Postby Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:39 pm

Kustonia wrote:
New haven america wrote:A. I'm not a liberal. Hahahaha~
B. And the Right doesn't understand what humor and sarcasm is
C. How is helping the world to make sure newer generations have an easier life and actually have a planet to live on selfish?


If you are saying that welfare and food stamps make people have an easier life, you are foolishly mistaken. People must do things and accomplish tasks to be happy. Newer generations are looking for belonging and community, not human rights. Human rights make people independent of their community because there are no duties and responsibilities to be had. Young people need training and leadership for proper guidance. One does not develop respect alone, it must be cultivated.

Alright well... Let's leave all of that outside of France.
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Postby Kustonia » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:47 pm

Olerand wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
If you are saying that welfare and food stamps make people have an easier life, you are foolishly mistaken. People must do things and accomplish tasks to be happy. Newer generations are looking for belonging and community, not human rights. Human rights make people independent of their community because there are no duties and responsibilities to be had. Young people need training and leadership for proper guidance. One does not develop respect alone, it must be cultivated.

Alright well... Let's leave all of that outside of France.


Are you aware of the French political party Rassemblement National? It is gaining a lot of support in France right now and is expected to gain tremendously in the European elections in May 2019. I don't think you are aware of the fact that what I am saying has a lot of traction amongst young and old Europeans.

Are you aware of Alain de Benoist? He is one of my favorite philosophers.
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Favorite Philosophers/Theoreticians: Plato, Julius Evola, Ernst Jünger, Oswald Spengler, Carl Schmitt, Aleksandr Dugin, Alain De Benoist, Georges Sorel
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Postby Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:49 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Olerand wrote:Alright well... Let's leave all of that outside of France.


Are you aware of the French political party Rassemblement National? It is gaining a lot of support in France right now and is expected to gain tremendously in the European elections in May 2019. I don't think you are aware of the fact that what I am saying has a lot of traction amongst young and old Europeans.

Are you aware of Alain de Benoist? He is one of my favorite philosophers.

... Am I aware of the RN? :lol2:

Yes. The RN does not support cutting down on welfare, nor is it against human rights. In fact, it might sue you for slander if you say it is... :lol2:

Yes, I am also aware of Alain de Benoist. Let's keep your thoughts in the original quote out of France.
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Postby Kubra » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:50 pm

Kustonia wrote:
Olerand wrote:Alright well... Let's leave all of that outside of France.


Are you aware of the French political party Rassemblement National? It is gaining a lot of support in France right now and is expected to gain tremendously in the European elections in May 2019. I don't think you are aware of the fact that what I am saying has a lot of traction amongst young and old Europeans.

Are you aware of Alain de Benoist? He is one of my favorite philosophers.
What is their stance on trains
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Postby Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:51 pm

Kubra wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
Are you aware of the French political party Rassemblement National? It is gaining a lot of support in France right now and is expected to gain tremendously in the European elections in May 2019. I don't think you are aware of the fact that what I am saying has a lot of traction amongst young and old Europeans.

Are you aware of Alain de Benoist? He is one of my favorite philosophers.
What is their stance on trains

Against privatization; lukewarm on public investment.
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Postby Kubra » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:52 pm

Olerand wrote:
Kubra wrote: What is their stance on trains

Against privatization; lukewarm on public investment.
so.....more or less trains?
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