Sovaal wrote:6th republic when?
With 250,000 protesters? Not anytime soon.
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by Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:46 am
Sovaal wrote:6th republic when?
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Sovaal » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:54 am
by Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:55 am
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Scomagia » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:44 pm
Baltenstein wrote:...and we got our first casualty:A protester has died and there are reports of several injuries as demonstrators angry at rising fuel prices disrupt traffic across France.
The female protester was struck after a driver panicked and drove towards demonstrators, reports said.
Some 120,000 "yellow vests", so-called after the high-visibility jackets they are required to carry in their cars, have gathered in 2,000 locations.
They accuse President Emmanuel Macron of abandoning "the little people".
Mr Macron admitted this week that he had not "really managed to reconcile the French people with their leaders".
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Nonetheless, he accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.
Officials have warned that, while they will not stop the protests, they will not allow them to bring the French road network to a standstill.
What has happened so far?
The female protester was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them, Le Parisien newspaper reported.
The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock. Protesters in Brittany in north-western France held a minute's silence for the victim.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46233560
by The Huskar Social Union » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:46 pm
by Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:52 pm
Sovaal wrote:6th republic when?
by Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:59 pm
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:01 pm
Olerand wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:3rd Empire now
Well, more likely another Restauration, as monarchists in France aren't really Bonapartistes these days. Le Monde did interview one of the protesters in Bar-le-Duc, who is a monarchist, a functionary of the Republic, and a card-carrying member of Force Ouvrière (the second most left-wing union) who votes for neo-Republican Marine Le Pen.
Though to his credit, he did say that he won't renew his FO membership next year, though he is two years away from retiring so he won't stop taking that Republican paycheck; and he was pretty clear that his main issues were Macron, Islam, and leftist education, not the diesel tax...
by Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:04 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Olerand wrote:Well, more likely another Restauration, as monarchists in France aren't really Bonapartistes these days. Le Monde did interview one of the protesters in Bar-le-Duc, who is a monarchist, a functionary of the Republic, and a card-carrying member of Force Ouvrière (the second most left-wing union) who votes for neo-Republican Marine Le Pen.
Though to his credit, he did say that he won't renew his FO membership next year, though he is two years away from retiring so he won't stop taking that Republican paycheck; and he was pretty clear that his main issues were Macron, Islam, and leftist education, not the diesel tax...
Unacceptable
The only monarchy we are allowed to have is one devoted to Republican virtues
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:05 pm
Olerand wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:Unacceptable
The only monarchy we are allowed to have is one devoted to Republican virtues
Exactly. Macron makes as fine a monarch as any inbred Bourbon, they have the same condescension anyway. What's the difference, a century in their age? At least you get to vote for another monarch in 2022.
by Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:07 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Olerand wrote:Exactly. Macron makes as fine a monarch as any inbred Bourbon, they have the same condescension anyway. What's the difference, a century in their age? At least you get to vote for another monarch in 2022.
Non, she does not posses the grandeur of the House Bonaparte
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:12 pm
by Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:15 pm
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:17 pm
Olerand wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:Clearly one does not appreciate Imperial Majesty
And autocorrect must’ve turned it into she
I do appreciate imperial and royal majesty, at the scaffold of the guillotine. Majestic.
However, monarchists in France, few in their numbers as they are, prefer royal majesty. If one wants a blind attachment for bygone tradition, why go for the parvenu?
by Herskerstad » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:19 pm
by Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:20 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Olerand wrote:I do appreciate imperial and royal majesty, at the scaffold of the guillotine. Majestic.
However, monarchists in France, few in their numbers as they are, prefer royal majesty. If one wants a blind attachment for bygone tradition, why go for the parvenu?
Better uniforms.
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:21 pm
Olerand wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:Better uniforms.
Military uniforms? Or do you mean 19th century fashions? I mean... If the Bourbons were still around for the middle to late 19th century they would have adopted similar military paraphernalia. It was what was en vogue.
I'm telling you, give the Bourbon a chance. One run-in with the guillotine is not enough for anybody!
by Baltenstein » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:23 pm
by Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:23 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Olerand wrote:Military uniforms? Or do you mean 19th century fashions? I mean... If the Bourbons were still around for the middle to late 19th century they would have adopted similar military paraphernalia. It was what was en vogue.
I'm telling you, give the Bourbon a chance. One run-in with the guillotine is not enough for anybody!
Please, have you seen that flag? Tacky beyond all belief
Only thing they had going for them was the musketeers of the guard
Baltenstein wrote:The Bourbons are actually still around, and are even the royal house of an European country. Perhaps a re-evaluation of the War of the Spanish Succession is in order?
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:30 pm
Baltenstein wrote:The Bourbons are actually still around, and are even the royal house of an European country. Perhaps a re-evaluation of the War of the Spanish Succession is in order?
by Rio Cana » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:32 pm
Olerand wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:Please, have you seen that flag? Tacky beyond all belief
Only thing they had going for them was the musketeers of the guard
The white flag? Oh, that won't be making a comeback. It can't! It couldn't even with the Comte de Chambord in 1870, let alone in 2018.
I actually enjoy the 18th century and its fashions more than the 19th, though the 19th did have its attractions certainly.Baltenstein wrote:The Bourbons are actually still around, and are even the royal house of an European country. Perhaps a re-evaluation of the War of the Spanish Succession is in order?
Not only Spain, but neighboring Luxembourg. To be fair though I don't even know if the Carlist pretender even speaks French (Oh and there is that pesky issue with the renunciation of succession rights or whatever), but the inbred Orléans surely do.
by Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:35 pm
Rio Cana wrote:Olerand wrote:The white flag? Oh, that won't be making a comeback. It can't! It couldn't even with the Comte de Chambord in 1870, let alone in 2018.
I actually enjoy the 18th century and its fashions more than the 19th, though the 19th did have its attractions certainly.
Not only Spain, but neighboring Luxembourg. To be fair though I don't even know if the Carlist pretender even speaks French (Oh and there is that pesky issue with the renunciation of succession rights or whatever), but the inbred Orléans surely do.
The real Spanish royal house were the Trastámara. But they ended and Spain got stuck with foreign royal houses like the Hapsburgs and Bourbons. Think the Hapsburg were somewhat better then the Bourbons. But both houses must have done something wrong since it all erupted in the Spanish civil war. One of Europes most devastating civil wars.
by Olerand » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:36 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Baltenstein wrote:The Bourbons are actually still around, and are even the royal house of an European country. Perhaps a re-evaluation of the War of the Spanish Succession is in order?
Funny enough so are the Bonaparte’s
You can put a lot of claimants onto a lot of fancy chairs
Rio Cana wrote:Olerand wrote:The white flag? Oh, that won't be making a comeback. It can't! It couldn't even with the Comte de Chambord in 1870, let alone in 2018.
I actually enjoy the 18th century and its fashions more than the 19th, though the 19th did have its attractions certainly.
Not only Spain, but neighboring Luxembourg. To be fair though I don't even know if the Carlist pretender even speaks French (Oh and there is that pesky issue with the renunciation of succession rights or whatever), but the inbred Orléans surely do.
The real Spanish royal house were the Trastámara. But they ended and Spain got stuck with foreign royal houses like the Hapsburgs and Bourbons. Think the Hapsburg were somewhat better then the Bourbons. But both houses must have done something wrong since it all erupted in the Spanish civil war. One of Europes most devastating civil wars.
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:37 pm
Olerand wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:Funny enough so are the Bonaparte’s
You can put a lot of claimants onto a lot of fancy chairs
The Bonapartes themselves? No they don't rule any countries.Rio Cana wrote:
The real Spanish royal house were the Trastámara. But they ended and Spain got stuck with foreign royal houses like the Hapsburgs and Bourbons. Think the Hapsburg were somewhat better then the Bourbons. But both houses must have done something wrong since it all erupted in the Spanish civil war. One of Europes most devastating civil wars.
Well the Trastamara are gone so... And the Spanish Hapsburgs as well... The Bourbon won the war, so they get to rule, as things went back then.
by Kowani » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:38 pm
Rio Cana wrote:Olerand wrote:The white flag? Oh, that won't be making a comeback. It can't! It couldn't even with the Comte de Chambord in 1870, let alone in 2018.
I actually enjoy the 18th century and its fashions more than the 19th, though the 19th did have its attractions certainly.
Not only Spain, but neighboring Luxembourg. To be fair though I don't even know if the Carlist pretender even speaks French (Oh and there is that pesky issue with the renunciation of succession rights or whatever), but the inbred Orléans surely do.
The real Spanish royal house were the Trastámara. But they ended and Spain got stuck with foreign royal houses like the Hapsburgs and Bourbons. Think the Hapsburg were somewhat better then the Bourbons. But both houses must have done something wrong since it all erupted in the Spanish civil war. One of Europes most devastating civil wars.
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