Should the West stop influencing the Middle East?

[Al-Zalaam]

Don't insult Allah. You'll regret it in the afterlife!

I´m a fucking atheist buddy your religious threats don´t scare me.

Well that's too bad. You won't be allowed to say anything on Judgment Day when you stand in front of Allah.

Don't ever insult Allah again. It's offensive and sickening.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Too bad. This is the Internet, buddy. Half of it is porn, the other half is just a distraction in between masturbatory sessions.

It's sickening of how much sin the West indulges in.

According to my religion polygamy is a sin.

It's sickening how much sin the Middle East indulges in.

[Binary Rhodesia]

Lets not devolve into insults guys.

But to address the topic, if it wasn't the west influencing the middle east, it'd be China, or less likely, India. The ME simply doesn't have the power projection to stop major outside influence in its culture and state-hood.

[Al-Zalaam]

It's sickening of how much sin the West indulges in.

Well by Christian standards and Islamic standards the East aint much better.

True but that's why we need a khalifa.

[The Frozen Forest]

Aye, i fail to see it mentioned that the major role of the US in the Middle East began largely due to the fact that the Middle East couldn't contain its own radical groups, like Al-Qaeda. Iraq, Saudi Arabia and the rest truly began to come under US influence due to the war on terrorism. The last thing the Middle East needs is a Caliph.

[Valgora]

I´m a fucking atheist buddy your religious threats don´t scare me.

Well that's too bad. You won't be allowed to say anything on Judgment Day when you stand in front of Allah.

Don't ever insult Allah again. It's offensive and sickening.

You are being very undude.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Well by Christian standards and Islamic standards the East aint much better.

True but that's why we need a khalifa.

Do you want Crusades? Because this is how you get Crusades.

[Andsed]

I´m a fucking atheist buddy your religious threats don´t scare me.

Well that's too bad. You won't be allowed to say anything on Judgment Day when you stand in front of Allah.

Don't ever insult Allah again. It's offensive and sickening.

Okay again I´m atheist Allah probably don´t like me anyway so what´s the harm in insulting Allah? Also who is it offensive and sickening to? You? Cause TBH I don´t give a damm about what any Christian or Muslim thinks of me or what I have to say about their religions.

[Eodor]

True but that's why we need a khalifa.

Do you want Crusades? Because this is how you get Crusades.

Trazyn the Infinite encourages Imperial forces to embark on the Indomitus Crusade after the Fall of Cadia. Circa. M42

[Skarten]

True but that's why we need a khalifa.

Do you want Crusades? Because this is how you get Crusades.

Actually, that'd be nice, because we've had like 9 big crusades until now, meaning this one would've been the 10th

And you just can't miss that opportunity.

[Al-Zalaam]

Well that's too bad. You won't be allowed to say anything on Judgment Day when you stand in front of Allah.

Don't ever insult Allah again. It's offensive and sickening.

Okay again I´m atheist Allah probably don´t like me anyway so what´s the harm in insulting Allah? Also who is it offensive and sickening to? You? Cause TBH I don´t give a damm about what any Christian or Muslim thinks of me or what I have to say about their religions.

Well I do! I don't appreciate you giving me this direspectful attitude!!

I wanting to a do freaking civilized discussion on here and all you guys do is ridicule!

[Union of Sovereign States and Republics]

True but that's why we need a khalifa.

Do you want Crusades? Because this is how you get Crusades.

Are we doing it?

...No?

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Do you want Crusades? Because this is how you get Crusades.

Trazyn the Infinite encourages Imperial forces to embark on the Indomitus Crusade after the Fall of Cadia. Circa. M42

[Eodor]

Okay again I´m atheist Allah probably don´t like me anyway so what´s the harm in insulting Allah? Also who is it offensive and sickening to? You? Cause TBH I don´t give a damm about what any Christian or Muslim thinks of me or what I have to say about their religions.

Well I do! I don't appreciate you giving me this direspectful attitude!!

I wanting to a do freaking civilized discussion on here and all you guys do is ridicule!

If you wanted a civilised discussion I'd recommend actually having a topic that promotes such, not "muh westerners destroying Islam" and more "muh westerners committing war crimes".

[Right wing humour squad]

Well that's too bad. You won't be allowed to say anything on Judgment Day when you stand in front of Allah.

Don't ever insult Allah again. It's offensive and sickening.

Okay again I´m atheist Allah probably don´t like me anyway so what´s the harm in insulting Allah? Also who is it offensive and sickening to? You? Cause TBH I don´t give a damm about what any Christian or Muslim thinks of me or what I have to say about their religions.

Dude chose a pedo for his prophet.
Pretty sure that demonstrates the only thing Allah likes is child rape.
I’m not certain a god like that deserves respect.

[Al-Zalaam]

Well I do! I don't appreciate you giving me this direspectful attitude!!

I wanting to a do freaking civilized discussion on here and all you guys do is ridicule!

If you wanted a civilised discussion I'd recommend actually having a topic that promotes such, not "muh westerners destroying Islam" and more "muh westerners committing war crimes".

But it's true though. This had been prophecized in Hadith.

[Izaakia]

In the U.K. we plan on having no petrol cars by 2050. I imagine that’s roughly the time we will stop interfering. It’s also when climate change will make the Middle East even more delsolate, the water wars will start and our main focus willl be stopping climate refugees reaching our infidel shores.

[Toaslandia]

The West has a lot of influence in the middle east and they're responsible for stiring up a lot of chaos among many Muslim brothers. Personally, if the Muslims of the middle east stopped fighting one another and United to form a Caliphate and remove western influence from the middle east, they're better off by themselves.

The Saudis are puppets of the United States and they should be cooperating with Muslim countries more than relying on the imperialistic west who try to shove their secularism down the throats of Muslims.

What do you think, NSG?

I don't think the Saudis are our puppets. They are allies to us.

[Normund]

Well I do! I don't appreciate you giving me this direspectful attitude!!

I wanting to a do freaking civilized discussion on here and all you guys do is ridicule!

If you wanted a civilised discussion I'd recommend actually having a topic that promotes such, not "muh westerners destroying Islam" and more "muh westerners committing war crimes".

Even I as an Atheist and fervent Anti-Abrahamist admit my country (UK) and other Western states have really, really not been acting as we should. I believe our governments’ politicians need a firm spanking (not literally). We need to teach other governments a lesson and get them to adhere to proper international law and standards. I believe the existence of the UNSC and the veto power nullifies any possible attempt at a sensible and responsible government.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Okay again I´m atheist Allah probably don´t like me anyway so what´s the harm in insulting Allah? Also who is it offensive and sickening to? You? Cause TBH I don´t give a damm about what any Christian or Muslim thinks of me or what I have to say about their religions.

Dude chose a pedo for his prophet.
Pretty sure that demonstrates the only thing Allah likes is child rape.
I’m not certain a god like that deserves respect.

Islam is fan fiction, tbh. It doesn't fit with the established lore of Abrahamism.

[Toaslandia]

Okay again I´m atheist Allah probably don´t like me anyway so what´s the harm in insulting Allah? Also who is it offensive and sickening to? You? Cause TBH I don´t give a damm about what any Christian or Muslim thinks of me or what I have to say about their religions.

Well I do! I don't appreciate you giving me this direspectful attitude!!

I wanting to a do freaking civilized discussion on here and all you guys do is ridicule!

Well I'm a proud Catholic (not in the Deadly Sin type of way ) and I have nothing against any form of Islam, but you do know that people are allowed to speak their thoughts, right?

[Al-Zalaam]

Dude chose a pedo for his prophet.
Pretty sure that demonstrates the only thing Allah likes is child rape.
I’m not certain a god like that deserves respect.

Islam is fan fiction, tbh. It doesn't fit with the established lore of the Abrahamism.

There is nothing fictional about Islam.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

If you wanted a civilised discussion I'd recommend actually having a topic that promotes such, not "muh westerners destroying Islam" and more "muh westerners committing war crimes".

Even I as an Atheist and fervent Anti-Abrahamist admit my country (UK) and other Western states have really, really not been acting as we should. I believe our governments’ politicians need a firm spanking (not literally). We need to teach other governments a lesson and get them to adhere to proper international law and standards. I believe the existence of the UNSC and the veto power nullifies any possible attempt at a sensible and responsible government.

Unfortunately the power wielded by the UNSC is necessary in order to protect humanity from the Covenant Empire - a.k.a the Space Caliphate.

[Eodor]

If you wanted a civilised discussion I'd recommend actually having a topic that promotes such, not "muh westerners destroying Islam" and more "muh westerners committing war crimes".

But it's true though. This had been prophecized in Hadith.

Pretty sure the Qur'an or any religious text of any kind prophecised the Gulf War

[Toaslandia]

Islam is fan fiction, tbh. It doesn't fit with the established lore of the Abrahamism.

There is nothing fictional about Islam.

Technically, all religions are Fiction. I know I just said I'm a Christian, but we believe because we are faithful, not because we have seen it. So since we have never seen our prophet or God, technically they are fiction. (plz don't smite me)