by Rojava Free State » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:36 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Nouveau Yathrib » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:30 pm
by Page » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:53 am
Rojava Free State wrote:1. What is your defintion of whiteness? What is the geographic border line in your opinion for what counts as white and what counts as non white? How do you define a white person as opposed to a person of color?
2. Do you believe race is a biological reality or a social construct with no real basis, cemented in human tribalist tendencies?
3. Have you ever experienced discrimination in the United States based on your racial or ethnic identity? This question isnt only limited to people of color, since I want those who identify as white persons to also feel free to talk about any violence or discrimination they may have faced from a non white individual too. Anyone who has been a victim of racism is free to tell their story.
by -Ocelot- » Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:16 am
by Neutraligon » Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:54 am
-Ocelot- wrote:Not an American but to answer you questions:
1. The concept of the "white man" was created by Nazi Germany to promote their pseudo-scientific theories about superior and inferior races. A lot of people call Americans or Europeans "white people" but that's misleading since no American/European identifies as white first (they identify as French, German, Greek, Jewish, Scottish, American etc. instead). Others add Arabs, Persians, Mexicans and even Afghani people to the white race, but that isn't exactly proper either, since many have brown skin (aka not white). A few others only consider people with white skin AND non-brown eyes to be truly white, which is even more confusing considering the millions of Asians with brown skin and blue eyes in Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey etc.
As such, there isn't an objective definition of "white", other than literally having a white skin. Since people with white skin exist worldwide, there can't be a border-related definition. And no, the US should not try to categorize people into races.
2. There are some biological differences between people of different nations but the concept of people falling into very specific racial categories is a social construct.
by Frievolk » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:21 am
-Ocelot- wrote:Not an American but to answer you questions:
1. The concept of the "white man" was created by Nazi Germany to promote their pseudo-scientific theories about superior and inferior races. A lot of people call Americans or Europeans "white people" but that's misleading since no American/European identifies as white first (they identify as French, German, Greek, Jewish, Scottish, American etc. instead). Others add Arabs, Persians, Mexicans and even Afghani people to the white race, but that isn't exactly proper either, since many have brown skin (aka not white). A few others only consider people with white skin AND non-brown eyes to be truly white, which is even more confusing considering the millions of Asians with brown skin and blue eyes in Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey etc.
As such, there isn't an objective definition of "white", other than literally having a white skin. Since people with white skin exist worldwide, there can't be a border-related definition. And no, the US should not try to categorize people into races.
2. There are some biological differences between people of different nations but the concept of people falling into very specific racial categories is a social construct.
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by Baltenstein » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:32 am
-Ocelot- wrote:Not an American but to answer you questions:
1. The concept of the "white man" was created by Nazi Germany to promote their pseudo-scientific theories about superior and inferior races.
by Rojava Free State » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:54 am
Nouveau Yathrib wrote:3. Have you ever experienced discrimination in the United States based on your racial or ethnic identity? This question isnt only limited to people of color, since I want those who identify as white persons to also feel free to talk about any violence or discrimination they may have faced from a non white individual too. Anyone who has been a victim of racism is free to tell their story.
Yes. I have been discriminated against in the job market due to my race and ethnicity, although I don't believe that was the main reason I wasn't hired. I've worked as a server in a retirement home, and have experienced occasional hostility from residents due to my race. I am a 2nd-generation American by the way; my parents are naturalized immigrants from a non-Western country.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Nakena » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:59 am
-Ocelot- wrote:1. The concept of the "white man" was created by Nazi Germany to promote their pseudo-scientific theories about superior and inferior races. A lot of people call Americans or Europeans "white people" but that's misleading since no American/European identifies as white first (they identify as French, German, Greek, Jewish, Scottish, American etc. instead). Others add Arabs, Persians, Mexicans and even Afghani people to the white race, but that isn't exactly proper either, since many have brown skin (aka not white). A few others only consider people with white skin AND non-brown eyes to be truly white, which is even more confusing considering the millions of Asians with brown skin and blue eyes in Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey etc.
As such, there isn't an objective definition of "white", other than literally having a white skin. Since people with white skin exist worldwide, there can't be a border-related definition. And no, the US should not try to categorize people into races.
by Thanatttynia » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:24 am
by US-SSR » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:48 am
Rojava Free State wrote:
1. What is your defintion of whiteness? What is the geographic border line in your opinion for what counts as white and what counts as non white? How do you define a white person as opposed to a person of color?
2. Do you believe race is a biological reality or a social construct with no real basis, cemented in human tribalist tendencies?
3. Have you ever experienced discrimination in the United States based on your racial or ethnic identity? This question isnt only limited to people of color, since I want those who identify as white persons to also feel free to talk about any violence or discrimination they may have faced from a non white individual too. Anyone who has been a victim of racism is free to tell their story.
by Diopolis » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:50 am
by US-SSR » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:51 am
by Rojava Free State » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:02 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:16 pm
by US-SSR » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:28 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:US-SSR wrote:
To be fair, white people are targeted by non white individuals for violence in the United States sometimes. Philidelphia has had a persistent problem with flash mobs of black american youth who assault white pedestrians on the streets late at night for no appearent visible reason, and in my hometown of Detroit, a mob of young black men beat up an old white man after he accidentally hit a kid with his car.
If you mean organized discrimination, that is probably rare in a majority white nation like America, although it does happen in some places where white folks are a minority, such as Zimbabwe and South Africa. A minority of any kind is gonna be at the most risk in society.
by Diopolis » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:31 pm
US-SSR wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
To be fair, white people are targeted by non white individuals for violence in the United States sometimes. Philidelphia has had a persistent problem with flash mobs of black american youth who assault white pedestrians on the streets late at night for no appearent visible reason, and in my hometown of Detroit, a mob of young black men beat up an old white man after he accidentally hit a kid with his car.
If you mean organized discrimination, that is probably rare in a majority white nation like America, although it does happen in some places where white folks are a minority, such as Zimbabwe and South Africa. A minority of any kind is gonna be at the most risk in society.
Re: racial/ethnic violence, the issue would be different treatment of perpetrators based on their backgrounds. I don't have any statistics specifically related to physical assault at hand but it's an indisputable fact that people of color in the US are arrested, charged, convicted and sentenced disproportionately for the same offenses committed by Caucasians. I have little doubt your "mob of young black men" would come off worse in US courts than a mob of young white men who beat up an old black man after he accidentally hit a kid with his car.
I repeat: Caucasians in the US do not face substantial, organizeddiscrimination based on raceor ethnicity.
by Rojava Free State » Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:10 pm
US-SSR wrote:Re: racial/ethnic violence, the issue would be different treatment of perpetrators based on their backgrounds. I don't have any statistics specifically related to physical assault at hand but it's an indisputable fact that people of color in the US are arrested, charged, convicted and sentenced disproportionately for the same offenses committed by Caucasians. I have little doubt your "mob of young black men" would come off worse in US courts than a mob of young white men who beat up an old black man after he accidentally hit a kid with his car.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Oturia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:11 pm
by Diarcesia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:17 pm
by Trumptonium1 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:26 pm
by Ostroeuropa » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:28 pm
1. What is your defintion of whiteness? What is the geographic border line in your opinion for what counts as white and what counts as non white? How do you define a white person as opposed to a person of color?
2. Do you believe race is a biological reality or a social construct with no real basis, cemented in human tribalist tendencies?
3. Have you ever experienced discrimination in the United States based on your racial or ethnic identity? This question isnt only limited to people of color, since I want those who identify as white persons to also feel free to talk about any violence or discrimination they may have faced from a non white individual too. Anyone who has been a victim of racism is free to tell their story.
They lost touch because they are classists who think they have money because they work harder than the whites beneath them, but they couldn't maintain that view alongside the predominant whiteness of the wealthy without believing in biological superiority of whites. The truth is social mobility is mostly a myth and more an exception than a rule.
They blame whites who aren't as successful as them for their own problems, and think the only reason the upper class is mostly the same demographic as them is racism fucking over the minortiies and their ability to be "Upwardly mobile", when in reality its because we were basically a 99.9% white country hundreds of years ago, and broadly the same families wealthy then are wealthy now. Just check the Picketty study on the concentration of wealth across history.
All this progressive shit is just the rich trying to save their own egotistical view of themselves as superior to the working classes, while trying to accommodate that view with the realization of biological equality of races.
by US-SSR » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:09 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:US-SSR wrote:Re: racial/ethnic violence, the issue would be different treatment of perpetrators based on their backgrounds. I don't have any statistics specifically related to physical assault at hand but it's an indisputable fact that people of color in the US are arrested, charged, convicted and sentenced disproportionately for the same offenses committed by Caucasians. I have little doubt your "mob of young black men" would come off worse in US courts than a mob of young white men who beat up an old black man after he accidentally hit a kid with his car.
The young black men who beat up stephen utash got 6 months in jail. If th situation was reversed, i think the outrage would be far greater. And the refusal to call anti white mob violence in philidelphia a hate crimeis stunning. While minorities due face an unequal justice system, mainly due to having a lower socioeconomic standing than many white people, the media will never refer to black on white violence as a hate crime, at least not most media. Now fox, they'd call a Mexican guy accidentally running a red light the apocalypse. But CNN will never be caught dead admitting that white people can be victims of hate crimes too and often are. Racism is not a one way street and there's no ifs ands or buts for racial violence. If we ignore anti white violence completely, it will eventually be a worse issue than anti black and brown violence in America.
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