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United Progressive State wrote:...5: Why are we so superior next to other animals by our intelligence? ...
by US-SSR » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:06 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:That the Apostles, who witnessed the miracles intimately, died for their belief in Christ. They would have known if the religion was false, so that they believed to death fills me with faith.
Bartilia wrote:The Bible makes me believe.
by United Muscovite Nations » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:09 pm
US-SSR wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:That the Apostles, who witnessed the miracles intimately, died for their belief in Christ. They would have known if the religion was false, so that they believed to death fills me with faith.
Then the Branch Davidians must be correct because so many of them died for their beliefs, right? Does that not fill you with faith in David Koresh?Bartilia wrote:The Bible makes me believe.
The Bible makes you believe in the truth of the Bible makes you believe in the truth of the Bible makes you believe in the truth of the Bible makes you. Circuar argument or Gertrude Stein poem?
by US-SSR » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:13 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:US-SSR wrote:
Then the Branch Davidians must be correct because so many of them died for their beliefs, right? Does that not fill you with faith in David Koresh?
The Bible makes you believe in the truth of the Bible makes you believe in the truth of the Bible makes you believe in the truth of the Bible makes you. Circuar argument or Gertrude Stein poem?
Did any of them see the miracles of Christ and witness the resurrection?
by Hatterleigh » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:14 pm
US-SSR wrote:I begin to tire of the question "do you believe or not and if so why or why not?" I find questions like "what do I have to do next to lead the best life I am capable of" much more interesting and productive.United Progressive State wrote:...5: Why are we so superior next to other animals by our intelligence? ...
5a. We're not so superior next to other animals. An unarmed human would be an easy lunch for pretty much any predator.
5b. Darwin said nonhuman intelligence is different from human in degree, not in kind. Either:
5b1. Some supernatural force, God if you must, endowed each created being with exactly the characteristics each required, or
5b2. The intelligence of each being evolved to suit the conditions it encountered. I pick this one.
5c. Either way, the mere fact that beings possess a quality called intelligence and that different beings possess it in different degrees is neither proof nor disproof of a God or gods.
National News Network: William Botrum entering last days in office - President-elect Rood preparing or term
Overview of Hatterleigh | William Botrum, Hatterleigh's President | Hatterlese Embassy Program | I don't use NS stats.by US-SSR » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:15 pm
Hatterleigh wrote:US-SSR wrote:I begin to tire of the question "do you believe or not and if so why or why not?" I find questions like "what do I have to do next to lead the best life I am capable of" much more interesting and productive.
5a. We're not so superior next to other animals. An unarmed human would be an easy lunch for pretty much any predator.
5b. Darwin said nonhuman intelligence is different from human in degree, not in kind. Either:
5b1. Some supernatural force, God if you must, endowed each created being with exactly the characteristics each required, or
5b2. The intelligence of each being evolved to suit the conditions it encountered. I pick this one.
5c. Either way, the mere fact that beings possess a quality called intelligence and that different beings possess it in different degrees is neither proof nor disproof of a God or gods.
I wasn't aware that trying to debate random religious people on NS forums is part of what you have to do to lead the best life you're capable of...
by United Muscovite Nations » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:16 pm
by Hatterleigh » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:17 pm
National News Network: William Botrum entering last days in office - President-elect Rood preparing or term
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United Muscovite Nations wrote:US-SSR wrote:
I don't know. Did the Apostles? Was there a resurrection? The disciples of Appolonius of Tyana said they witnessed miracles, should we be filled with faith in him?
The apostles claimed there was, and they died for that belief. Why would they die for it if they were lying about what they witnessed?
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