Pretty sure 'It's OK to be white' is a white nationalist term
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by Harmonian Hegemony » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:33 am
Dahon wrote:
Eh, it's Jamal Khashoggi. Who cares.
by Kaggeceria » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:36 am
by Caracasus » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:53 am
by Hirota » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:25 am
Gravlen wrote:So you're not talking about a threat in a legal sense, only what you subjectively think could concievably be interpret as a threat, given enough viewings of certain mafia movies. Got it.
We are in a culture now where being threatened, or in fear for oneself is an entirely subjective construct, where it is accepted (at least in some quarters) that someone can be in fear or feel threatened for much sillier reasons (or at least sillier as I consider them. Your mileage may vary obviously, but that's kind of the point).Caracasus wrote:Now I'd agree that if a drug dealer and a bunch of their mates were outside someone's house saying "we know where you sleep at night!" that could be considered a threat to someone's life. Claiming a bunch of protesters with placards and that were genuinely threatening this person's life? That's simply not credible at all. Likely they were threatening to continue protesting at a later date.
by Dahon » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:09 am
by Vassenor » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:12 am
by Myrensis » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:14 am
by Sefy the Great » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:33 am
A 12.7 civilization, according to this index.
by Hirota » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:44 am
How very patronising to think that A) the right can do it without the masses recognising what is or isn't facist, racist rhetoric, and B) that the left has to point it out to save the "normies" from somehow accidentally turning facist.Myrensis wrote:no, the whole point of the term is to put a harmless veneer on their agenda so that their conservative allies can enthusiastically promote it while pretending not to and to lull the wishy washy centrists into thinking they're harmless.
All white nationalists are terrible people, but they're not all complete idiots. They know the quickest way to immediately alienate the 'normies' is to paste swastikas on everything and run around calling for the extermination of the niggers. So they quite deliberately adopt bland, 'harmless' seeming symbols and slogans so that they can wink-wink nudge-nudge eachother without raising red flags, and so that when people who do recognize it call them out they can do the whole 'Oh geez, everything is racist according to the left!" act.
by Dahon » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:09 am
by Hirota » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:13 am
Far less an assumption than claiming without evidence that the centrists and the masses believe either bunch of tribalists and need "saving" from tribalists A or B by the other bunch.Dahon wrote:That is of course an assumption at best
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:16 am
by Petrasylvania » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:19 am
by Tarsonis » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:15 am
by Sefy the Great » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:18 am
A 12.7 civilization, according to this index.
by Tarsonis » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:21 am
by Page » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:40 am
Kaggeceria wrote:Harmonian Hegemony wrote:
Pretty sure 'It's OK to be white' is a white nationalist term
This is kind of the whole point of the term, really, to point out the hypocrisy of people like you.
The term means what it says. It's okay to be white. Nothing more, nothing less. And yet when leftists see it they immediately fly off the rails and cry racism, white nationalism and white supremacism. All of that based purely on a simple slogan that it's okay to be of a certain race.
by Ifreann » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:41 am
If I was I really think nothing would happen, because I'm pretty sure no one knows or cares who I am.
This is the most honest thing you have said thus far.And no danger.
And I don't know how to explain to you that Tweets, which I assume were deleted when the people who posted them were banned, were not at the protest. Like. Twitter is a website. It's on the internet. It can't go to Tucker Carlson's house.
You're trying to assert that doxxing poses no threat.
How fascinating.
They knocked on the door. That's very obviously not the same as trying to smash it.
According to him they tried to break it down.
You know that they didn't.
But I do.That's literally not the words they said.
They mean the same fucking thing.
You see, this is what I mean by semantics. You nitpick at tiny little things. Right now you're attempting to argue over phrases that mean the exact same thing. You're good at arguing semantics. But when it comes to the actual substantive meat of the debate, you have nothing of value to contribute. You're piss poor at arguing subsantive things, and on some level you know. You simply try to cover it up under the guise of "I only post for entertainment and diversion." You have nothing to contribute, and I won't take you seriously any further. In fact, I don't even know why I was.
I'm pointing out that you're wrong and you're persisting in being wrong.
Uh-huh, but you're not actually debating. Just childishly stomping your feet.And you're wrong. You're trying to make it seem like they said "We know where you live" because people making threats say that. But they didn't say that. They were chanting "We know where you sleep at night". That doesn't have the same associations with threats. Especially when you consider that one protester had a tambourine to keep the beat, and they still fucked up and the chant broke down.
Yes, they do. Holy shit, those phrases mean the same thing. I explained this to you already. Even broke it down word-by-word.
So when you were saying "repair", you meant "replace"?
You gotta get a dictionary.
Things can be repaired, or replaced. Neither of us are door repairmen, so I doubt we'd know what it takes to fix a crack. But please, don't let me keep you from further useless wordplay.
Uh, search for Tucker Carlson in Washington DC.
I sincerely doubt he keeps his address publicly listed.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:So how many right wing NSG members live in Ireland? Pretty expensive to carry out a threat.
It isn't a threat according to a number of people here so I'm curious to see if those folks will keep that line of thinking up when it's their info in question. I'm willing to bet nobody actually will.
by Vassenor » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:46 am
Kaggeceria wrote:Harmonian Hegemony wrote:
Pretty sure 'It's OK to be white' is a white nationalist term
This is kind of the whole point of the term, really, to point out the hypocrisy of people like you.
The term means what it says. It's okay to be white. Nothing more, nothing less. And yet when leftists see it they immediately fly off the rails and cry racism, white nationalism and white supremacism. All of that based purely on a simple slogan that it's okay to be of a certain race.
Myrensis wrote:All white nationalists are terrible people, but they're not all complete idiots. They know the quickest way to immediately alienate the 'normies' is to paste swastikas on everything and run around calling for the extermination of the niggers. So they quite deliberately adopt bland, 'harmless' seeming symbols and slogans so that they can wink-wink nudge-nudge eachother without raising red flags, and so that when people who do recognize it call them out they can do the whole 'Oh geez, everything is racist according to the left!" act.
by Maisiestan » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:33 am
Myrensis wrote:All white nationalists are terrible people, but they're not all complete idiots. They know the quickest way to immediately alienate the 'normies' is to paste swastikas on everything and run around calling for the extermination of the [not saying this]. So they quite deliberately adopt bland, 'harmless' seeming symbols and slogans so that they can wink-wink nudge-nudge eachother without raising red flags, and so that when people who do recognize it call them out they can do the whole 'Oh geez, everything is racist according to the left!" act.
Kaggeceria wrote:This is kind of the whole point of the term, really, to point out the hypocrisy of people like you.
The term means what it says. It's okay to be white. Nothing more, nothing less. And yet when leftists see it they immediately fly off the rails and cry racism, white nationalism and white supremacism. All of that based purely on a simple slogan that it's okay to be of a certain race.
by Myrensis » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:40 am
Hirota wrote:How very patronising to think that A) the right can do it without the masses recognising what is or isn't facist, racist rhetoric, and B) that the left has to point it out to save the "normies" from somehow accidentally turning facist.Myrensis wrote:no, the whole point of the term is to put a harmless veneer on their agenda so that their conservative allies can enthusiastically promote it while pretending not to and to lull the wishy washy centrists into thinking they're harmless.
All white nationalists are terrible people, but they're not all complete idiots. They know the quickest way to immediately alienate the 'normies' is to paste swastikas on everything and run around calling for the extermination of the niggers. So they quite deliberately adopt bland, 'harmless' seeming symbols and slogans so that they can wink-wink nudge-nudge eachother without raising red flags, and so that when people who do recognize it call them out they can do the whole 'Oh geez, everything is racist according to the left!" act.
No Myrensis, what you call "wishy washy" I call disenchantment with the belligerent tribalists. Most people are not fooled by the far-left or far-rights rabid bluster and overblown hyperbole, but rather just plain bored of it.
by Ifreann » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:40 am
Maisiestan wrote:Kaggeceria wrote:This is kind of the whole point of the term, really, to point out the hypocrisy of people like you.
The term means what it says. It's okay to be white. Nothing more, nothing less. And yet when leftists see it they immediately fly off the rails and cry racism, white nationalism and white supremacism. All of that based purely on a simple slogan that it's okay to be of a certain race.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnndd kaggeceria outs themself as a neo nazi! whoops!
by Maisiestan » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:44 am
wink wink
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:57 am
Maisiestan wrote:Myrensis wrote:All white nationalists are terrible people, but they're not all complete idiots. They know the quickest way to immediately alienate the 'normies' is to paste swastikas on everything and run around calling for the extermination of the [not saying this]. So they quite deliberately adopt bland, 'harmless' seeming symbols and slogans so that they can wink-wink nudge-nudge eachother without raising red flags, and so that when people who do recognize it call them out they can do the whole 'Oh geez, everything is racist according to the left!" act.
with this analysis in mind, let's check out this comment:Kaggeceria wrote:This is kind of the whole point of the term, really, to point out the hypocrisy of people like you.
The term means what it says. It's okay to be white. Nothing more, nothing less. And yet when leftists see it they immediately fly off the rails and cry racism, white nationalism and white supremacism. All of that based purely on a simple slogan that it's okay to be of a certain race.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnndd kaggeceria outs themself as a neo nazi! whoops!
by Hirota » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:02 am
I'd rather be accused of being optimistic in humanity and naive than becoming dogmatically entrenched in zealous political hooliganism for fanatical tribe A or fanatical tribe B.Myrensis wrote:
Yes, because if there's one take away from the political and social changes of the last couple of years, it's how obviously most people are abandoning their tribalist outlook and embracing a future of one big happy family of humanity.
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