So what were the threats?
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by Vassenor » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:42 pm
by Holy Tedalonia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:43 pm
by Hammer Britannia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:44 pm
by Kaggeceria » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:45 pm
by Kowani » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:47 pm
by Kaggeceria » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:47 pm
by Hammer Britannia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:48 pm
by Kowani » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:49 pm
by Holy Tedalonia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:50 pm
Ifreann wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:All the more reason to expect people who want to inflict harm upon him. If a extreme majority don’t love him, that means there’s a large minority that would like him to be dead. If I was that hated, I would find myself scared of a protest, which could have a potential killer in the mix.
The extreme majority of the world don't love you either. The extreme majority of the world don't love me. This is perfectly normal. Stop trying to make it seem dangerous and threatening.
Luckily I live in a neighborhood full of none-asshole teens. But the Motives are different, teens like to be jerks and tp houses. A antifa member might see it as “he’s a fascist, I’m justified to treat him that way.” Different motives make potential murder man, a possible case. After all, we have we really on motive to determine what type of murder case it is. Self inflicted death? Suicide. Multiple dead? Serial killer. Etc
You are clearly not taking Halloween vandalism seriously enough. If teenagers are willing to break the law to harm their neighbours, that's basically as serious as murder.
You lack originality.
...How do I lack originality because you said something stupid?
by Alvecia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:51 pm
Kaggeceria wrote:Alvecia wrote:Again, not exactly a threat all on it's own. They were literally standing outside his house. That's just a statement of fact.
Yeah... they were just stating facts. Maybe they should have also said it was cold out.
It honestly takes an incalculable level of willful ignorance to try and not see the not-so-veiled threats here.
by Holy Tedalonia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:54 pm
by Alvecia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:57 pm
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Alvecia wrote:Again, not exactly a threat all on it's own. They were literally standing outside his house. That's just a statement of fact.
A threat, is a statement that implies harm/a bad thing in general will happen to said individual. “We know where you live,” is a simple threat implying that your home ain’t gonna keep you safe.
What if it was the mafia who said it as opposed to political activists, would you still safe? A threat is the statement, that implies ill intent. A child threatening to punch you, isn’t all that threatening, but doesn’t change the fact it is indeed a threat.
by Holy Tedalonia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:03 pm
Alvecia wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:A threat, is a statement that implies harm/a bad thing in general will happen to said individual. “We know where you live,” is a simple threat implying that your home ain’t gonna keep you safe.
What if it was the mafia who said it as opposed to political activists, would you still safe? A threat is the statement, that implies ill intent. A child threatening to punch you, isn’t all that threatening, but doesn’t change the fact it is indeed a threat.
That's a reasonably broad definition. Would certainly cover this situation, but also devalues the use of the word to be almost indistinguishable from a promise.
by Farnhamia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:03 pm
by Alvecia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:12 pm
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Alvecia wrote:That's a reasonably broad definition. Would certainly cover this situation, but also devalues the use of the word to be almost indistinguishable from a promise.
A promise would more likely be something like, “we’ll be back.”
“We know where you live,” is a implying that they aren’t going to escape at their home, for even their house can’t escape their protests and promises. A phrase often used by members of the mafia, and other darker more sinister organizations. Based upon its history and how it was used, we can only assume at best, its a threat that they will harm them with politically charged protests even at their house, or at worst its a threat that their safety at home is non-existent.
by Holy Tedalonia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:20 pm
Alvecia wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:A promise would more likely be something like, “we’ll be back.”
“We know where you live,” is a implying that they aren’t going to escape at their home, for even their house can’t escape their protests and promises. A phrase often used by members of the mafia, and other darker more sinister organizations. Based upon its history and how it was used, we can only assume at best, its a threat that they will harm them with politically charged protests even at their house, or at worst its a threat that their safety at home is non-existent.
I don't really agree that those two terms are particularly distinct. Both can hold equal connotations.
by Alvecia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:24 pm
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Alvecia wrote:I don't really agree that those two terms are particularly distinct. Both can hold equal connotations.
How I see it, a threat is merely a promise with malicious or wrathful intent. I guess when it comes down to it, “We know where you live” can be interpreted as a threat or a promise. However historical use plays a role too. After all the swastika was originally a Hindu symbol, but most recognize it as the Nazi symbol. So using historical context such as mafia men going, “we know where you live,” has created a assumption that when people say that phrase that usually means ill intent, thus making it a threat.
by Holy Tedalonia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:30 pm
Alvecia wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:How I see it, a threat is merely a promise with malicious or wrathful intent. I guess when it comes down to it, “We know where you live” can be interpreted as a threat or a promise. However historical use plays a role too. After all the swastika was originally a Hindu symbol, but most recognize it as the Nazi symbol. So using historical context such as mafia men going, “we know where you live,” has created a assumption that when people say that phrase that usually means ill intent, thus making it a threat.
Also consider what you would define as a threat. Is promising to come back and repeat the little chant they did a threat? Certainly it's negative for Tucker, but in the grand scheme of things, pretty much harmless.
by Gravlen » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:36 pm
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Alvecia wrote:I don't really agree that those two terms are particularly distinct. Both can hold equal connotations.
How I see it, a threat is merely a promise with malicious or wrathful intent. I guess when it comes down to it, “We know where you live” can be interpreted as a threat or a promise. However historical use plays a role too. After all the swastika was originally a Hindu symbol, but most recognize it as the Nazi symbol. So using historical context such as mafia men going, “we know where you live,” has created a assumption that when people say that phrase that usually means ill intent, thus making it a threat.
by Petrasylvania » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:37 pm
by Holy Tedalonia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:37 pm
Gravlen wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:How I see it, a threat is merely a promise with malicious or wrathful intent. I guess when it comes down to it, “We know where you live” can be interpreted as a threat or a promise. However historical use plays a role too. After all the swastika was originally a Hindu symbol, but most recognize it as the Nazi symbol. So using historical context such as mafia men going, “we know where you live,” has created a assumption that when people say that phrase that usually means ill intent, thus making it a threat.
So you're not talking about a threat in a legal sense, only what you subjectively think could concievably be interpret as a threat, given enough viewings of certain mafia movies. Got it.
by Ifreann » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:51 pm
people chanting that they know where you live, banging on your door and vandalizing your property seems bad.
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Ifreann wrote:The extreme majority of the world don't love you either. The extreme majority of the world don't love me. This is perfectly normal. Stop trying to make it seem dangerous and threatening.
Ah, I see. You’re contributing people who are apathetic, I removed those apathetic variables, due to their irrelevance in the “I love; I hate” pie chart. Regardless my point still stands, a lot of people who are familiar with Tucker Carlson’s rhetoric, doesn’t love him. That means a large minority really does hate him.
You are clearly not taking Halloween vandalism seriously enough. If teenagers are willing to break the law to harm their neighbours, that's basically as serious as murder.
Again, teens are nowhere near as dangerous as political activist/people. Lots of our presidents have been shot by people, due to powerful political frenzies.
...How do I lack originality because you said something stupid?
I rather like political bullets, as a term. Just because you failed to interpret its meaning does not mean its stupid.
by Caracasus » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:16 pm
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