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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:57 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Was she alone when she "fell"?

Wishful thinking, but if by a miniscule possibility she was pushed it would reignite a party base.


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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:59 am

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An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Was she alone when she "fell"?

Wishful thinking, but if by a miniscule possibility she was pushed it would reignite a party base.


Wishful thinking, but if by a minuscule possibility the letter bomber was a false flag it would reignite a party base.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:59 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Wishful thinking, but if by a miniscule possibility she was pushed it would reignite a party base.


>"dOn'T iNdUlGe In CoNsPiRaCiEs!!!11!one!"
>proceeds to basically indulge in one

OOF

"What is 'if'? Such a silly word."
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Postby NS Miami Shores » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:01 am

95X wrote:Obviously, if she can no longer perform her Supreme Court duties, the President would pick another new justice. And conservatives would have an even larger majority than they have now. I think they might use that majority to overturn laws they don't like, such as allowing states to decriminalize marijuana, decrease or eliminate services to the general public, and perhaps even declare 'all your rights are belong to us'.

Also, you're probably going to need more of an opinion in your opening post:
viewtopic.php?p=18946099#p18946099
Specifically, try elaborating on who, what, where, why and how you are "shocked and stunned".

While I disagree with RBG politically, get well soon and resume your duties as a US Supreme Court Justice of which you are qualified for.

If the Democrats had a majority leftist US Supreme Court, they might use that majority to overturn conservative laws they don't like, it works both ways.
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Postby Luziyca » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:01 am

I hope that she recovers swiftly, and that she be able to return to her duties as soon as she is reasonably able to do so.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:01 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
>"dOn'T iNdUlGe In CoNsPiRaCiEs!!!11!one!"
>proceeds to basically indulge in one

OOF

"What is 'if'? Such a silly word."


You certainly didn't care when I was also using "if".

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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:01 am

NS Miami Shores wrote:
95X wrote:Obviously, if she can no longer perform her Supreme Court duties, the President would pick another new justice. And conservatives would have an even larger majority than they have now. I think they might use that majority to overturn laws they don't like, such as allowing states to decriminalize marijuana, decrease or eliminate services to the general public, and perhaps even declare 'all your rights are belong to us'.

Also, you're probably going to need more of an opinion in your opening post:
viewtopic.php?p=18946099#p18946099
Specifically, try elaborating on who, what, where, why and how you are "shocked and stunned".

While I disagree with RBG politically, get well soon and resume your duties as a US Supreme Court Justice of which you are qualified for.

If the Democrats had a majority leftist US Supreme Court, they might use that majority to overturn conservative laws they don't like, it works both ways.

Ah, whataboutism.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:03 am

Luziyca wrote:I hope that she recovers swiftly, and that she be able to return to her duties as soon as she is reasonably able to do so.


It may be a while before she recovers, as others have noted, fractures at her age are serious.
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Postby Luziyca » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:04 am

Valrifell wrote:
Luziyca wrote:I hope that she recovers swiftly, and that she be able to return to her duties as soon as she is reasonably able to do so.


It may be a while before she recovers, as others have noted, fractures at her age are serious.

It probably will, but I am still hoping for the best outcomes: if she goes, then the Supreme Court will be firmly in the claws of the GOP for the next few decades.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:05 am

Luziyca wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
It may be a while before she recovers, as others have noted, fractures at her age are serious.

It probably will, but I am still hoping for the best outcomes: if she goes, then the Supreme Court will be firmly in the claws of the GOP for the next few decades.


I'm reasonably confident she could hold out for the next year or so, given the circumstances if she retires or, forbid, die.

She should retire after 2020 regardless of outcome, I think. I doubt she'll willingly leave before then.
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Postby The Lynzian Race » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:05 am

She's got one foot in the grave already. I think she should have retired a long time ago, enjoying what time she has left before she gives up the ghost. I mean, for the last several years, she's been passing out during administering her duties.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:06 am

Luziyca wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
It may be a while before she recovers, as others have noted, fractures at her age are serious.

It probably will, but I am still hoping for the best outcomes: if she goes, then the Supreme Court will be firmly in the claws of the GOP for the next few decades.


Our villainous villainous claws.

Quick, ram the backlog through while she is recovering.
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Postby NS Miami Shores » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:07 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
NS Miami Shores wrote:While I disagree with RBG politically, get well soon and resume your duties as a US Supreme Court Justice of which you are qualified for.

If the Democrats had a majority leftist US Supreme Court, they might use that majority to overturn conservative laws they don't like, it works both ways.

Ah, whataboutism.

the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.Also called whataboutery.
lol, No so called whataboutism or whataboutery, it does work both ways, and I wished RBG well and her recovery.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:11 am

That's how many openly wishing Ginsburgh retires now in hopes reproductive and orientation rights are rolled back by a new appointment?
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:12 am

Petrasylvania wrote:That's how many openly wishing Ginsburgh retires now in hopes reproductive and orientation rights are rolled back by a new appointment?


No no, we just need a 6-3 balance to ensure all the 2A cases go through with ease.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:14 am

Petrasylvania wrote:That's how many openly wishing Ginsburgh retires now in hopes reproductive and orientation rights are rolled back by a new appointment?


You are basically advocating for an unnecessary continuation of her suffering out of political pettiness.

She needs to retire and live out the rest of her life in dignity and peace, not end up disgracefully tumbling down the steps of the Supreme Court building.

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Postby Post War America » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:14 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:That's how many openly wishing Ginsburgh retires now in hopes reproductive and orientation rights are rolled back by a new appointment?


No no, we just need a 6-3 balance to ensure all the 2A cases go through with ease.


I mean, if you can find a judge who will back 2A rights without also being in favor of rolling back protections for minorities, or worse in favor of gutting the nonestablishment clause, have at it hoss. But I get the feeling that such a judge prolly doesn't exist.
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Postby Page » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:15 am

Get well soon and godspeed RBG.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:16 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:That's how many openly wishing Ginsburgh retires now in hopes reproductive and orientation rights are rolled back by a new appointment?


No no, we just need a 6-3 balance to ensure all the 2A cases go through with ease.

Hey, it'll be a great day when The Joker can walk into a gun store and order crateloads of full automatic weapons without the staff blinking an eye, much take a second to wonder if that's such a good idea.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby NS Miami Shores » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:16 am

Page wrote:Get well soon and godspeed RBG.

We agree.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:18 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:That's how many openly wishing Ginsburgh retires now in hopes reproductive and orientation rights are rolled back by a new appointment?


You are basically advocating for an unnecessary continuation of her suffering out of political pettiness.

She needs to retire and live out the rest of her life in dignity and peace, not end up disgracefully tumbling down the steps of the Supreme Court building.


^ This.

But hey, don't let simple facts get in the way of posting a silly strawman argument, right?

Petrasylvania wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No no, we just need a 6-3 balance to ensure all the 2A cases go through with ease.

Hey, it'll be a great day when The Joker can walk into a gun store and order crateloads of full automatic weapons without the staff blinking an eye, much take a second to wonder if that's such a good idea.


It absolutely will.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:18 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No no, we just need a 6-3 balance to ensure all the 2A cases go through with ease.

Hey, it'll be a great day when The Joker can walk into a gun store and order crateloads of full automatic weapons without the staff blinking an eye, much take a second to wonder if that's such a good idea.


It didn't have to be this way Gauth, you could have prevented this.
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Postby Page » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:20 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
You are basically advocating for an unnecessary continuation of her suffering out of political pettiness.


Just because she is up in age doesn't mean she's incapable of doing her job. Noam Chomsky is at the door of 90 and his mind is still sharper than that of most 20 year olds.

If she wants to retire, she'll do that. If she wants to stay on but take time to get well, that's her right.
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Postby NS Miami Shores » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:22 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No no, we just need a 6-3 balance to ensure all the 2A cases go through with ease.

Hey, it'll be a great day when The Joker can walk into a gun store and order crateloads of full automatic weapons without the staff blinking an eye, much take a second to wonder if that's such a good idea.

As a proud conservative Republican I favor gun rights, but I favor background checks and keeping guns away from mentally ill persons and criminals, but any person can snap and commit a crime with any kind of weapon, including myself.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:22 am

Page wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
You are basically advocating for an unnecessary continuation of her suffering out of political pettiness.


Just because she is up in age doesn't mean she's incapable of doing her job. Noam Chomsky is at the door of 90 and his mind is still sharper than that of most 20 year olds.

If she wants to retire, she'll do that. If she wants to stay on but take time to get well, that's her right.


RBG has three f*cking broken ribs, she is certainly not in a "sharp" state at the moment, and at her age, said injury will hit far harder than a 20-year old's.

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