12 dead in Thousand Oaks, Ca bar

[Telconi]

Thread on mass shooting turns into gun porn. NSG.

Better than "Thread on mass shooting turns into gun grabbing".

[Valrifell]

Thread on mass shooting turns into gun porn. NSG.

Better than "Thread on mass shooting turns into gun grabbing".

You already have your circlejerk thread, ironically in "gun control" please don't spread. There are kids watching.

[Alvecia]

Thread on mass shooting turns into gun porn. NSG.

Better than "Thread on mass shooting turns into gun grabbing".

If anything that just seems like the logical progression.

[Vassenor]

Better than "Thread on mass shooting turns into gun grabbing".

If anything that just seems like the logical progression.

Unfortunately some people get triggered by the idea of actually taking steps to stop this sort of thing beyond just insincere thoughts and prayers.

[Ifreann]

You're pleasantly surprised that a murderer's marriage failed?

No, that was an inevitability. Rather pleasantly surprised that the failure of said marriage is likely for the reason why he was in that particular mental state.

In what particular mental state?

After all, we automatically attributed the shooting to PTSD, right? Wouldn't a war veteran who is suffering from PTSD be quite adverse to recreating the sounds of war, or seeing people die?

I wouldn't know, but I doubt that's necessarily true in every case.

[Ors Might]

If anything that just seems like the logical progression.

Unfortunately some people get triggered by the idea of actually taking steps to stop this sort of thing beyond just insincere thoughts and prayers.

Ain’t our fault that y’all can’t think of solutions to violent crime that don’t involve restricting rights. Either you just don’t have imagination or you think that the causes disappear if the tool does.

[Paddy O Fernature]

If anything that just seems like the logical progression.

Unfortunately some people get triggered by the idea of actually taking steps to stop this sort of thing beyond just insincere thoughts and prayers.

Some people you say? Well then, lets do a quick search then, shall we?

Thoughts and prayers..

Tim Allen paraphrasing afterwards optional.

So thoughts and prayers and arm the student body when?

As well as some unhinged asshole who ends up levelling a school with them, but Thoughts And Prayers then We Need To Put Security In School With Machine Guns And Rocket Launchers.

So this is the part where hollow thoughts and prayers are recited, as well as lamentations that guns weren't allowed in the tournament.

Thoughts And Prayers, then Arm Newspapers.

Everyone, Break Out Your Thoughts And Prayers!

Thoughts and Prayers, nothing more to see here.

Ergo nothing should be done. Thoughts and prayers to people who were gunned down praying in a church is hollow.

Perhaps my search engine is faulty, but these are the only instances I can find on a quick scan that looked as if anyone was either "triggered" by Thoughts and Prayers or being insincere on the subject of it.

[Telconi]

If anything that just seems like the logical progression.

Unfortunately some people get triggered by the idea of actually taking steps to stop this sort of thing beyond just insincere thoughts and prayers.

How can I be triggered by something nobody's done?

[Free Arabian Nation]

Unfortunately some people get triggered by the idea of actually taking steps to stop this sort of thing beyond just insincere thoughts and prayers.

Ain’t our fault that y’all can’t think of solutions to violent crime that don’t involve restricting rights.

Not to mention solutions that will actually work long-term >_>

[Vassenor]

Ain’t our fault that y’all can’t think of solutions to violent crime that don’t involve restricting rights.

Not to mention solutions that will actually work long-term >_>

So why won't gun control work long term?

[Petrasylvania]

Not to mention solutions that will actually work long-term >_>

So why won't gun control work long term?

People conditioned to believe that every problem can be shot away.

[Cannot think of a name]

Unfortunately some people get triggered by the idea of actually taking steps to stop this sort of thing beyond just insincere thoughts and prayers.

Ain’t our fault that y’all can’t think of solutions to violent crime that don’t involve restricting rights. Either you just don’t have imagination or you think that the causes disappear if the tool does.

You know what fans of fast cars did when fast cars became considered a public menace? Solved that problem themselves so they could still have fast cars. Wally Sparks didn't throw a fucking snit and tell people "Well, come up with a way for them to not kill people that doesn't take away my hot rod" he created the NHRA and encouraged his fellow hot rodders to take it to the track and sponsored material encouraging safe operation and self restriction of hot rodding that changed its public perception.

Be like Wally. You want the boom sticks, if you're not going to figure out how to manage them we will. You already don't like our solutions, so step the fuck up.

[Cannot think of a name]

Unfortunately some people get triggered by the idea of actually taking steps to stop this sort of thing beyond just insincere thoughts and prayers.

Some people you say? Well then, lets do a quick search then, shall we?

Tim Allen paraphrasing afterwards optional.

So thoughts and prayers and arm the student body when?

As well as some unhinged asshole who ends up levelling a school with them, but Thoughts And Prayers then We Need To Put Security In School With Machine Guns And Rocket Launchers.

So this is the part where hollow thoughts and prayers are recited, as well as lamentations that guns weren't allowed in the tournament.

Thoughts And Prayers, then Arm Newspapers.

Everyone, Break Out Your Thoughts And Prayers!

Thoughts and Prayers, nothing more to see here.

Ergo nothing should be done. Thoughts and prayers to people who were gunned down praying in a church is hollow.

Perhaps my search engine is faulty, but these are the only instances I can find on a quick scan that looked as if anyone was either "triggered" by Thoughts and Prayers or being insincere on the subject of it.

You know that cat said "triggered by the idea of taking actual steps" not 'triggered by thoughts and prayers,' right?

[Len Hyet]

Not to mention solutions that will actually work long-term >_>

So why won't gun control work long term?

Do I need to go over this again? Because we've definitely gone over this before.

I mean, if you really want I can give you the blocking instructions?

Enter stage left Vass and/or Gauth: "Why oh why won't those stupid gun lovers just see things our way?"

Enter stage right Len and/or WRA: "Because your ideas don't work and have zero evidence backing them up."

V &/or G: "Yes they do!"

L &/or W: "No, they don't. Here's why"

Exit stage left V &/or G

Repeat.

[Cannot think of a name]

You're pleasantly surprised that a murderer's marriage failed?

No, that was an inevitability. Rather pleasantly surprised that the failure of said marriage is likely for the reason why he was in that particular mental state. After all, we automatically attributed the shooting to PTSD, right? Wouldn't a war veteran who is suffering from PTSD be quite adverse to recreating the sounds of war, or seeing people die?

So you're saying that the bigger contributor is his divorce and not traumatic experiences in a violent environment where he was a soldier that lead to post traumatic stress disorder which often manifests in soldiers by violently lashing out as they would have in the high stress combat situations? And to bolster that theory you're saying that his trauma over being divorced would over ride his desire to not see violence again which I'm guessing is how you think PTSD works? That's your pitch?

[Cannot think of a name]

So why won't gun control work long term?

Do I need to go over this again? Because we've definitely gone over this before.

I mean, if you really want I can give you the blocking instructions?

Enter stage left Vass and/or Gauth: "Why oh why won't those stupid gun lovers just see things our way?"

Enter stage right Len and/or WRA: "Because your ideas don't work and have zero evidence backing them up."

V &/or G: "Yes they do!"

L &/or W: "No, they don't. Here's why"

Exit stage left V &/or G

Repeat.

That was the most unanswer answer to ever not answer a question.

[Len Hyet]

Do I need to go over this again? Because we've definitely gone over this before.

I mean, if you really want I can give you the blocking instructions?

That was the most unanswer answer to ever not answer a question.

I've had this discussion with Gauth and Vass a dozen times before, and don't feel like hashing out the whole thing again, so I figured I'd get it over with by just hitting the highlights.

[Telconi]

Ain’t our fault that y’all can’t think of solutions to violent crime that don’t involve restricting rights. Either you just don’t have imagination or you think that the causes disappear if the tool does.

You know what fans of fast cars did when fast cars became considered a public menace? Solved that problem themselves so they could still have fast cars. Wally Sparks didn't throw a fucking snit and tell people "Well, come up with a way for them to not kill people that doesn't take away my hot rod" he created the NHRA and encouraged his fellow hot rodders to take it to the track and sponsored material encouraging safe operation and self restriction of hot rodding that changed its public perception.

Be like Wally. You want the boom sticks, if you're not going to figure out how to manage them we will. You already don't like our solutions, so step the fuck up.

Ol Wally wasn't facing an ideological attack in his rights. Completely invidious comparison.

[Petrasylvania]

No, that was an inevitability. Rather pleasantly surprised that the failure of said marriage is likely for the reason why he was in that particular mental state. After all, we automatically attributed the shooting to PTSD, right? Wouldn't a war veteran who is suffering from PTSD be quite adverse to recreating the sounds of war, or seeing people die?

So you're saying that the bigger contributor is his divorce and not traumatic experiences in a violent environment where he was a soldier that lead to post traumatic stress disorder which often manifests in soldiers by violently lashing out as they would have in the high stress combat situations? And to bolster that theory you're saying that his trauma over being divorced would over ride his desire to not see violence again which I'm guessing is how you think PTSD works? That's your pitch?

Being married to a feemaale is more traumatic than fighting in a war, silly!

[Free Arabian Nation]

So you're saying that the bigger contributor is his divorce and not traumatic experiences in a violent environment where he was a soldier that lead to post traumatic stress disorder which often manifests in soldiers by violently lashing out as they would have in the high stress combat situations? And to bolster that theory you're saying that his trauma over being divorced would over ride his desire to not see violence again which I'm guessing is how you think PTSD works? That's your pitch?

Being married to a feemaale is more traumatic than fighting in a war, silly!

It is, have you seen what they do behind closed doors?

*Shivers*

[Costa Fierro]

In what particular mental state?

The mental state that drove him to commit the mass shooting.

I wouldn't know, but I doubt that's necessarily true in every case.

It's the only logical conclusion.

[Harmonian Hegemony]

Thread on mass shooting turns into gun porn. NSG.

Better than "Thread on mass shooting turns into gun grabbing".

Yes because the real victims of mass shootings arn't the people who lost their lives but rather right wing gun fetishists being annoyed that people are debating gun control.

[Valrifell]

That was the most unanswer answer to ever not answer a question.

I've had this discussion with Gauth and Vass a dozen times before, and don't feel like hashing out the whole thing again, so I figured I'd get it over with by just hitting the highlights.

A tragicomedy in two parts.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Ain’t our fault that y’all can’t think of solutions to violent crime that don’t involve restricting rights. Either you just don’t have imagination or you think that the causes disappear if the tool does.

You know what fans of fast cars did when fast cars became considered a public menace? Solved that problem themselves so they could still have fast cars. Wally Sparks didn't throw a fucking snit and tell people "Well, come up with a way for them to not kill people that doesn't take away my hot rod" he created the NHRA and encouraged his fellow hot rodders to take it to the track and sponsored material encouraging safe operation and self restriction of hot rodding that changed its public perception.

Be like Wally. You want the boom sticks, if you're not going to figure out how to manage them we will. You already don't like our solutions, so step the fuck up.

That's a terrible comparison. We already encourage safe usage and storage and regularly go out of our ways to inform people of currently existing gun laws. Your sort just keeps coming back to chop away more and more of our rights every time someone misuses something (or in the case of the Hughes Amendment or the original "Assault Weapons" ban when you decide it's too scary for us to own) and that eventually came back and bit you in the ass. Daily reminder that our side compromised for damn near 60 years before we started telling you to fuck off when we saw we were getting nothing in return except a gradual reduction in our rights.

[Telconi]

Better than "Thread on mass shooting turns into gun grabbing".

Yes because the real victims of mass shootings arn't the people who lost their lives but rather right wing gun fetishists being annoyed that people are debating gun control.

Yup.