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Is this attack justifiable?

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:44 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Black Party wrote:literally what you just did to us

I'm reaching levels of daftness that should not be possible


I mean when someone says "I know this is wrong but I'm not going to change it"... :roll:

You strawman other posters, and then play the victim when they retaliate. Stop being a hypocrite.

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Postby Chan Island » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:45 pm

Scomagia wrote:Gotta love the gaslighting in this thread. Violent assaults by some people are demonstrations of the violence inherent to their group, yet violence from members of groups you support are only the actions of bad actors. Or the group simply doesn't really exist.


Yup. The sameness of it too is astonishing. You could copy and paste the responses the left-wingers are giving here and compare to the right-wingers responses to those pipe bombs not long ago and you'd never notice the difference. Legit almost word for word.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:50 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I mean when someone says "I know this is wrong but I'm not going to change it"... :roll:

You strawman other posters, and then play the victim when they retaliate. Stop being a hypocrite.


I'm still not the subject of this thread, you know.
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Postby The Black Party » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:52 pm

Vassenor wrote:I'm still not the subject of this thread, you know.

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:You strawman other posters, and then play the victim when they retaliate. Stop being a hypocrite.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:52 pm

Vassenor wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:You strawman other posters, and then play the victim when they retaliate. Stop being a hypocrite.


I'm still not the subject of this thread, you know.

Neither was I in the beginning, but you tried to make it about me.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:53 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Gotta love the gaslighting in this thread. Violent assaults by some people are demonstrations of the violence inherent to their group, yet violence from members of groups you support are only the actions of bad actors. Or the group simply doesn't really exist.


Yup. The sameness of it too is astonishing. You could copy and paste the responses the left-wingers are giving here and compare to the right-wingers responses to those pipe bombs not long ago and you'd never notice the difference. Legit almost word for word.

Indeed. Ideological blindness is the way of NSG now.
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Postby Fahran » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:53 pm

East Angria wrote:Nobody claims that someone like, say, Jordan Peterson should be considered a threat like Anders Breivik should be considered a threat.

Some Antifa-affiliated groups absolutely do believe that right-wing professors, intellectuals, and media personalities are legitimate targets. Again, it has to do with interpreting disagreeable speech as a form of violence that legitimizes physical violence against the political opponents in question.

Scomagia wrote:Indeed. Ideological blindness is the way of NSG now.

There were people make apologies for that guy? Eek.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:53 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I'm still not the subject of this thread, you know.

Neither was I in the beginning, but you tried to make it about me.


When did I do that? I pointed out an issue with what was in the OP.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:55 pm

Extremists say dumb things*, then get violent. In other news: Water wet, water slides fun say scientists and scientists families. Pope reconfirms that he is indeed Catholic. Bear spotted shiting in woods.

* What? Fucking what? The US flag as a fascist symbol? Are you...that stupid?The same US that said to the Nazis and I quote "Nuts!"?

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Postby Chan Island » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:00 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
Yup. The sameness of it too is astonishing. You could copy and paste the responses the left-wingers are giving here and compare to the right-wingers responses to those pipe bombs not long ago and you'd never notice the difference. Legit almost word for word.

Indeed. Ideological blindness is the way of NSG now.


At least it's one of the best places out of a bubble nowadays. You get to see the left and right scream at each other and you've got your perspectives sorted. ;)
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:02 pm

Vassenor wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Neither was I in the beginning, but you tried to make it about me.


When did I do that? I pointed out an issue with what was in the OP.

No, you accused me of deflecting when I explained my opening post to you.

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Postby The Black Party » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:03 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Extremists say dumb things*, then get violent. In other news: Water wet, water slides fun say scientists and scientists families. Pope reconfirms that he is indeed Catholic. Bear spotted shiting in woods.

* What? Fucking what? The US flag as a fascist symbol? Are you...that stupid?The same US that said to the Nazis and I quote "Nuts!"?

The US flag is a fascist symbol to signal white supremacy, just like Whole Milk, the OK hand-sign, Pepe, No Nut November, Blue Lives Matter, Starbucks, and Free Speech.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:04 pm

The Black Party wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Extremists say dumb things*, then get violent. In other news: Water wet, water slides fun say scientists and scientists families. Pope reconfirms that he is indeed Catholic. Bear spotted shiting in woods.

* What? Fucking what? The US flag as a fascist symbol? Are you...that stupid?The same US that said to the Nazis and I quote "Nuts!"?

The US flag is a fascist symbol to signal white supremacy, just like Milk, the OK hand-sign, Pepe, No Nut November, Blue Lives Matter, Starbucks, and Free Speech.

What muppets think no nut November is a white supremacy symbol
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:05 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I mean when someone says "I know this is wrong but I'm not going to change it"... :roll:

You strawman other posters, and then play the victim when they retaliate. Stop being a hypocrite.

You posted a months old story about violence by unidentified people and called it "Antifa attacks liberal over American Flag". Stop pushing fascist propaganda.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:05 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Indeed. Ideological blindness is the way of NSG now.


At least it's one of the best places out of a bubble nowadays. You get to see the left and right scream at each other and you've got your perspectives sorted. ;)

I guess that's one way to look at it. I applaud your optimism.
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Postby The Black Party » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:05 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:What muppets think no nut November is a white supremacy symbol

Where have you been? No Nut November was created by white supremacists to boycott porn websites and reject porn liberalism and the porn companies that are allegedly controlled by the Jewish people. Typical white supremacy.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:06 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
When did I do that? I pointed out an issue with what was in the OP.

No, you accused me of deflecting when I explained my opening post to you.


1. That's not attacking you.

2. You were deflecting. Instead of answering my point you berated me for not responding in the way you were expecting.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:07 pm

The Black Party wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:What muppets think no nut November is a white supremacy symbol

Where have you been? No Nut November was created by white supremacists to boycott porn websites and reject porn liberalism and the porn companies that are allegedly controlled by the Jewish people. Typical white supremacy.

Are you fucking with me or... does someone believe that
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Postby Misthas » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:08 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Where have you been? No Nut November was created by white supremacists to boycott porn websites and reject porn liberalism and the porn companies that are allegedly controlled by the Jewish people. Typical white supremacy.

Are you fucking with me or... does someone believe that

I'm 99.9% sure he's joking. NNN is a meme. Then again, the alt-right loves their memes.
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Postby Estanglia » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:09 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Where have you been? No Nut November was created by white supremacists to boycott porn websites and reject porn liberalism and the porn companies that are allegedly controlled by the Jewish people. Typical white supremacy.

Are you fucking with me or... does someone believe that

You could probably find some nutter who sincerely believes that.

Although tbf you could probably find people who believe in things that even hardcore conspiracy theorists think is a bit too far.
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Postby The Black Party » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:09 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Are you fucking with me or... does someone believe that

The more we talk about No Nut November and The American Flag, the more White Supremacist we become, so lets not unless you're a bigot in disguise.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:09 pm

Ifreann wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:You strawman other posters, and then play the victim when they retaliate. Stop being a hypocrite.

You posted a months old story about violence by unidentified people and called it "Antifa attacks liberal over American Flag". Stop pushing fascist propaganda.

What is the thought process there? The site I quoted is not fascist; this really happened. Sorry if this upsets you, but there is nothing fascist going on here.

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Postby The Isle of Beithe » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:10 pm

There's literally nothing as anti-fascist as physically assaulting people with whom you disagree. :roll: Blegh.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:10 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You posted a months old story about violence by unidentified people and called it "Antifa attacks liberal over American Flag". Stop pushing fascist propaganda.

What is the thought process there? The site I quoted is not fascist; this really happened. Sorry if this upsets you, but there is nothing fascist going on here.


And what was the need to bring up a story from three months ago?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:10 pm

The Black Party wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:What muppets think no nut November is a white supremacy symbol

Where have you been? No Nut November was created by white supremacists to boycott porn websites and reject porn liberalism and the porn companies that are allegedly controlled by the Jewish people. Typical white supremacy.

This does sound like exactly the kind of thing 4chan would pretend liberals are saying, leading to actual white supremacists actually believing it. Like what happened with the OK hand sign and whole milk.

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