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Florida Yoga Studio Shooter Identified As InCel

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:24 am
by Petrasylvania
Tallahassee gunman reported for harassing women, police say; records show groping case dropped

Gunman in Yoga Studio Shooting Recorded Misogynistic Videos and Faced Battery Charges

In online videos, he spewed misogynistic and racist vitriol — and railed against all the women who had turned him down.

In real life, records show, he had a history of harassing women and was accused of touching women’s buttocks without their consent.

And on Friday, the authorities said, he shot two women to death and injured five other people at a Florida yoga studio before killing himself.

The gunman, Scott P. Beierle, 40, posed as a customer at the studio in Tallahassee, Fla., and then opened fire without warning, the police said. The authorities were investigating to determine Mr. Beierle’s connection to the yoga studio and the victims.

Officials identified the victims who were killed as Dr. Nancy Van Vessem, 61, a faculty member at Florida State University, and Maura Binkley, 21, a student there. Four women and one man suffered non-life-threatening injuries.

“There are no words to express the shock and grief we feel,” John Thrasher, the president of Florida State, said on Twitter on Saturday. He added, “To lose one of our students and one of our faculty members in this tragic and violent way is just devastating to the FSU family.”

Mr. Beierle, who the authorities said had prior military service, lived in Deltona, Fla., and had been staying at a hotel while visiting Tallahassee, the police said. He was a graduate of Florida State, where he had been arrested at least twice, once on charges of battery against women, according to records and the police.

He also had a history of expressing misogynistic and racist views. In a series of videos posted over a three-day period in August 2014, he ranted against women and minorities, the police and the Army — anyone and everyone who he believed had wronged him.

BuzzFeed News first reported on the videos.

In the videos, Mr. Beierle pontificated from a dimly lit bedroom, with an unmade bed and a pile of cardboard boxes in the background. He lamented his inability to connect with other people — from Army comrades who he said would not travel with him while stationed in Europe to women who refused to go out with him.

He identified with “involuntary celibates” and told personal stories of rejection, naming multiple girls who he said had wronged him.

“Made one date, didn’t show up,” he said of one woman. “Made another date, didn’t show up. Kept making excuses. Ah, I could’ve ripped her head off.”

He expressed sympathy with Elliot O. Rodger, who killed six people in Isla Vista, Calif., three months before Mr. Beierle recorded the videos. Mr. Rodger had expressed his disgust at women online and urged “incels” — shorthand for involuntary celibates — to fight back.

In the videos, Mr. Beierle also railed against interracial dating, and used racist and disparaging language when talking about black people.

He also referred to trouble with the Army after an incident in Amsterdam in which he said four women complained about his behavior. “I got too rowdy for their sensibilities,” he said.

Records show that Mr. Beierle moved from Vestal, N.Y., near Binghamton, to Tallahassee in 2011.

In December 2012, Mr. Beierle was charged with battery after a woman accused him of grabbing her buttocks at a dining hall on Florida State’s campus in Tallahassee. The charges were dismissed in May 2013, court records show.

In 2014, Mr. Beierle was charged with trespassing at a dining hall on campus and was given pretrial intervention, though it was unclear exactly what that entailed or how the case was resolved.

Mr. Beierle was again charged with battery in June 2016, but the charge was dismissed in 2017, records show.

In that case, Tallahassee police records show, Mr. Beierle was arrested after he approached a woman sunbathing at a pool and complimented her on her figure. He offered to put sunscreen on her buttocks, but she told him no and he groped her without her permission, according to the police report.

On Friday, Mr. Beierle entered Hot Yoga Tallahassee with a handgun, the police said. When he began shooting, some people inside fought back, preventing a greater tragedy, Michael DeLeo, the chief of the Tallahassee Police Department, said in a statement on Saturday.

Ms. Binkley, a senior at Florida State, was set to graduate in May, said Azalee Vereen, her aunt. Ms. Binkley studied journalism and German, and was preparing for life after college by applying for programs like Fulbright and Teach for America.

Ms. Binkley, who grew up in a northern suburb of Atlanta, was “very smart, very beautiful and just very giving,” Ms. Vereen said.

Dr. Van Vessem was responsible for coordinating the third- and fourth-year clerkship rotations in internal medicine at the Tallahassee campus of Florida State, according to a profile on the university’s website.

“She was an outstanding physician with a passion for access to health care,” said Pam Irwin, the executive director of Capital Medical Society, a Tallahassee-based professional organization for doctors, of which Dr. Van Vessem was a member. “Without being aware, she was a mentor. She represented how to serve others with wisdom, ethics, compassion and collaboration.”

Myra Hurt, a medical professor and senior associate dean at Florida State, called Dr. Van Vessem “a formidable woman.”

“I knew going into a meeting with her that I had to be ready,” she said. “Even if we didn’t agree on something, you knew she was operating from a position of protecting her patients. She was a woman of substance. She was the real thing.”


A Tallahassee yoga studio was shot up by a former Army man with a criminal record of groping women and identified as an InCel. Not to mention expressed sympathies for InCel shooter Elliot Rodgers.

InCels as a problem group are not being taken seriously enough in the country, as this guy's history proved. There needs to be something done about InCels as a whole to prevent another such murder spree. What should be done?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:26 am
by Risottia
Petrasylvania wrote:There needs to be something done about InCels as a whole to prevent another such murder spree. What should be done?


Provide them with fuck-stamps, expendable at any local brothel.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:31 am
by Petrasylvania
Risottia wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:There needs to be something done about InCels as a whole to prevent another such murder spree. What should be done?


Provide them with fuck-stamps, expendable at any local brothel.

Perhaps requiring the recepient to be certified with certain problems to prevent just anyone from claiming to be an InCel to get free vouchers?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:31 am
by Nouveau Yathrib
Some combination of community outreach and this, I suppose.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:32 am
by Valrifell
Legalize prostitution?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:33 am
by Risottia
Valrifell wrote:Legalize prostitution?

Wait.
Prostitution is illegal? What kind of country dicktates what adult, consenting people do with their own genitals? Saudi Arabia?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:35 am
by Risottia
Petrasylvania wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Provide them with fuck-stamps, expendable at any local brothel.

Perhaps requiring the recepient to be certified with certain problems to prevent just anyone from claiming to be an InCel to get free vouchers?

Nah.

More fucking, less fucktards. If anyone is so hopeless they need fuckstamps to have sex, well, that's being needy enough for me.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:36 am
by Valrifell
Risottia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:Legalize prostitution?

Wait.
Prostitution is illegal? What kind of country dicktates what adult, consenting people do with their own genitals? Saudi Arabia?


The god-fearing Puritans of these United States.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:37 am
by Ifreann
Risottia wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:There needs to be something done about InCels as a whole to prevent another such murder spree. What should be done?


Provide them with fuck-stamps, expendable at any local brothel.

What have prostitutes done to earn such cruelty?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:39 am
by Caracasus
Of all the reasons to commit a terror attack, not being able to get your dick wet due to your abhorrent personal qualities and utter lack of socialization has got to be the most bewilderingly pathetic.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:40 am
by Berhakonia
Put them in the camps

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:44 am
by The Sherpa Empire
Being racist just exacerbates the problem if you are already having trouble with women. "I can't get laid, so I'll just refuse to talk to black women, and chase away all the anti-racist crowd! Yeah! That'll totally help!"

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:44 am
by Mardla
Valrifell wrote:Legalize prostitution?

Only if we can outlaw porn.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:48 am
by Berhakonia
Mardla wrote:
Valrifell wrote:Legalize prostitution?

Only if we can outlaw porn.


Can we outlaw both?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:48 am
by Ifreann
Berhakonia wrote:
Mardla wrote:Only if we can outlaw porn.


Can we outlaw both?

No.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:49 am
by Galloism
Risottia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:Legalize prostitution?

Wait.
Prostitution is illegal? What kind of country dicktates what adult, consenting people do with their own genitals? Saudi Arabia?

It is in Florida, where this occurred.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:51 am
by Mardla
Berhakonia wrote:
Mardla wrote:Only if we can outlaw porn.


Can we outlaw both?

Dunno. Trump has expressed interest in banning porn at least. If the GOP gets a supermajority, I predict national restrictions on porn and prostitution, also ban on abortion and a reintroduction of DOMA.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:52 am
by Mardla
Ifreann wrote:
Berhakonia wrote:
Can we outlaw both?

No.

Ireland, don't you have some blasphemy of Christ to legalize and some blasphemy of Mohammed to ban?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:53 am
by Page
Man, fuck this poisonous cult.

Maybe you all who say you're concerned about men's rights and men's issues should be focusing on this, how vulnerable young boys and men are instilled with the notion that they have no self-worth if they aren't having sex and that women are to blame for all their problems.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:54 am
by Vassenor
Page wrote:Man, fuck this poisonous cult.

Maybe you all who say you're concerned about men's rights and men's issues should be focusing on this, how vulnerable young boys and men are instilled with the notion that they have no self-worth if they aren't having sex and that women are to blame for all their problems.


Pretty sure they'd just say it's all the feminists' fault somehow.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:57 am
by Petrasylvania
Vassenor wrote:
Page wrote:Man, fuck this poisonous cult.

Maybe you all who say you're concerned about men's rights and men's issues should be focusing on this, how vulnerable young boys and men are instilled with the notion that they have no self-worth if they aren't having sex and that women are to blame for all their problems.


Pretty sure they'd just say it's all the feminists' fault somehow.

Oh yeah. Wonder how this shooting will be blamed on feminists.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:58 am
by Petrasylvania
Mardla wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No.

Ireland, don't you have some blasphemy of Christ to legalize and some blasphemy of Mohammed to ban?

Trying to derail with religion, Parkus?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:58 am
by Virshia
Page wrote:Man, fuck this poisonous cult.

Maybe you all who say you're concerned about men's rights and men's issues should be focusing on this, how vulnerable young boys and men are instilled with the notion that they have no self-worth if they aren't having sex and that women are to blame for all their problems.


Is that why those guys in my class kept asking me to go out with someone?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:59 am
by Ifreann
Mardla wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No.

Ireland, don't you have some blasphemy of Christ to legalize and some blasphemy of Mohammed to ban?

We legalised blasphemy two weeks ago. Couldn't you feel a disturbance in the force?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:01 am
by Galloism
Page wrote:Man, fuck this poisonous cult.

Maybe you all who say you're concerned about men's rights and men's issues should be focusing on this, how vulnerable young boys and men are instilled with the notion that they have no self-worth if they aren't having sex and that women are to blame for all their problems.

We are. Part of our mantra has been, for a long time, that men should not need the approval of women in order to be valuable. Men should think of themselves as valuable independent of women, and women's approval is nice but not necessary.

Of course, other people go around calling people "neckbeards" and insulting "virgins" which is society's way of shaming men for not getting a woman's approval, but we are doing the best we can. It is difficult however.

Incels are the logical result of a society that says a woman's approval is necessary in order to be worthwhile.