Florida Yoga Studio Shooter Identified As InCel

[Thermodolia]

He's an asshole though...

And yeah, he's part of a party that believes being gay is one of the main things destroying our society and is an abomination against nature, I'm sure admitting it will work out real well for him.

Hasn't stopped a few Republicans like Larry Craig and

Larry Craig’s case is ambiguous. It’s not impossible for people to be complete idiots about certain things.

Mark Foley from trying to get a lil' male sumpn' sumpn' when they think nobody's looking.

Didn’t know your a homophobe Gauth. Repeating the idea that all pedos are gay? Classy

[New haven america]

https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcup ... ttractive/

Here's the 80%

For one, men on the site tend to be more generous than women when it comes to rating attractiveness, leading to a nice bell curve with the bulk of ratings falling around ‘average’. But despite their fair ratings, they tend to ignore many of the women they find reasonably attractive and primarily target the most attractive females.

And perhaps more telling: women don’t seem to be opposed to actually contacting these men that they’ve just deemed unattractive.

"As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh. On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys’ pursuing the all-but-unattainable."

Dude... why are you choosing a source that kinda fucks your argument over?

https://www.glamour.com/story/glamour-sexuality-survey

Here's the 2/3rds.

From what I'm reading, this source does show that your claim about most women's perception of men who have had relatonships with men, but nothing about men's perception of women who have had relationships with women.

IIRC, men are actually more accepting of Bi/Pan people/partners than women are.

[Valgora]

For one, men on the site tend to be more generous than women when it comes to rating attractiveness, leading to a nice bell curve with the bulk of ratings falling around ‘average’. But despite their fair ratings, they tend to ignore many of the women they find reasonably attractive and primarily target the most attractive females.

And perhaps more telling: women don’t seem to be opposed to actually contacting these men that they’ve just deemed unattractive.

"As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh. On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys’ pursuing the all-but-unattainable."

Dude... why are you choosing a source that kinda fucks your argument over?


From what I'm reading, this source does show that your claim about most women's perception of men who have had relatonships with men, but nothing about men's perception of women who have had relationships with women.

IIRC, men are actually more accepting of Bi/Pan people/partners than women are.

I think I can imagine why men are more likely to accept a bi/pan partner.

[Senkaku]

what a bizarre unending string of incredibly similar isolated incidents! but no problem here, don't commit counterterrorism resources or anything lol

[Senkaku]

IIRC, men are actually more accepting of Bi/Pan people/partners than women are.

I think I can imagine why men are more likely to accept a bi/pan partner.

Homophobia + straight male fetishization of lesbians? Or were you going to say something dumb like "they think it's hot hahuhaha"

[New haven america]

IIRC, men are actually more accepting of Bi/Pan people/partners than women are.

I think I can imagine why men are more likely to accept a bi/pan partner.

It's not for 3somes, men, regardless of sexuality, just tend to care less than women do,

On that note: A lot of women are brutal towards bisexual women, especially lesbians. It's really sad, a lot of lesbians even act like it's a disease or unnatural (Oh, the irony of these beliefs) or that bi/pan women have been irreversibly tainted by men.

[Len Hyet]

I think I can imagine why men are more likely to accept a bi/pan partner.

Homophobia + straight male fetishization of lesbians? Or were you going to say something dumb like "they think it's hot hahuhaha"

I mean, male fetishization of lesbianism is "they think it's hot lol" in different words.

[Valgora]

I think I can imagine why men are more likely to accept a bi/pan partner.

Homophobia + straight male fetishization of lesbians? Or were you going to say something dumb like "they think it's hot hahuhaha"

This song title is a good indication of what I was thinking of when I said I can imagine why men are more likely to accept a bi/pan partner:
My Girlfriend's Girlfriend

[Petrasylvania]

Mark Foley from trying to get a lil' male sumpn' sumpn' when they think nobody's looking.

Didn’t know your a homophobe Gauth. Repeating the idea that all pedos are gay? Classy

You're the only one who brought up pedophilia here. You shouldn't try for a gotcha and virtue signal at the same time. :^]

[Thermodolia]

Didn’t know your a homophobe Gauth. Repeating the idea that all pedos are gay? Classy

You're the only one who brought up pedophilia here. You shouldn't try for a gotcha and virtue signal at the same time. :^]

You do know what Mark Foley was accused of right? In case you didn’t he was accused of send sexually explicit messages to teenager boys. That makes him a pedo.

So either you where completely unaware of that fact, which I highly doubt. Or you knew it but decided that throwing the gays under the bus is fine if it means that you get to attack republicans just like you did with the Jews

[Petrasylvania]

You're the only one who brought up pedophilia here. You shouldn't try for a gotcha and virtue signal at the same time. :^]

You do know what Mark Foley was accused of right? In case you didn’t he was accused of send sexually explicit messages to teenager boys. That makes him a pedo.

So either you where completely unaware of that fact, which I highly doubt. Or you knew it but decided that throwing the gays under the bus is fine if it means that you get to attack republicans just like you did with the Jews

In your desperation to own me, you imagined that me calling out Foley on homosexual hypocrisy is somehow calling all gays pedophiles. Ookay, that is really pathetic and sad. Foley being a pedo does nothing to indict gay men as a whole except in your imagination. The Virtue Signal is so bright you might accidentally attract Batman. :^]

[Thermodolia]

You do know what Mark Foley was accused of right? In case you didn’t he was accused of send sexually explicit messages to teenager boys. That makes him a pedo.

So either you where completely unaware of that fact, which I highly doubt. Or you knew it but decided that throwing the gays under the bus is fine if it means that you get to attack republicans just like you did with the Jews

In your desperation to own me, you imagined that me calling out Foley on homosexual hypocrisy is somehow calling all gays pedophiles.

Sending explicit texts to teenage boys isn’t homosexual hypocrisy and it’s not homosexuality it’s pedophilia. You seem to think that a guy messaging teenage boys means that he’s gay, but not a pedophile. It’s absolutely sick.

Ookay, that is really pathetic and sad. Foley being a pedo does nothing to indict gay men as a whole except in your imagination. The Virtue Signal is so bright you might accidentally attract Batman. :^]

Gauth you will never in your life have to defend yourself against accusations of pedophilia because of your sexuality. I have. And right now you aren’t helping. In fact you are do the opposite and adding to the myth that gays are pedos

And no. Unlike what you think, I’m not out to get you. I’m just calling you out on bullshit and your supposed liberal beliefs when you say things that are clearly against that. This is just like when you used my peoples deaths as a cheap joke to attack republicans

[Petrasylvania]

In your desperation to own me, you imagined that me calling out Foley on homosexual hypocrisy is somehow calling all gays pedophiles.

Sending explicit texts to teenage boys isn’t homosexual hypocrisy and it’s not homosexuality it’s pedophilia. You seem to think that a guy messaging teenage boys means that he’s gay, but not a pedophile. It’s absolutely sick.

It's not hypocrisy for Foley to push Republican anti-LGBT policies in public while sending texts to a young male page in hopes of having a gay tryst with him? You're wearing yourself ragged trying to spin this as me calling all gays pedophiles.

Ookay, that is really pathetic and sad. Foley being a pedo does nothing to indict gay men as a whole except in your imagination. The Virtue Signal is so bright you might accidentally attract Batman. :^]

Gauth you will never in your life have to defend yourself against accusations of pedophilia because of your sexuality. I have. And right now you aren’t helping. In fact you are do the opposite and adding to the myth that gays are pedos

Foley being a hypocritical gay pedo does nothing to indict gay people as a whole unless you live in a red state where a good portion of the homophobes are probably in denial anyways. You're still trying to virtue signal.

[Thermodolia]

Sending explicit texts to teenage boys isn’t homosexual hypocrisy and it’s not homosexuality it’s pedophilia. You seem to think that a guy messaging teenage boys means that he’s gay, but not a pedophile. It’s absolutely sick.

It's not hypocrisy for Foley to push Republican anti-LGBT policies in public while sending texts to a young male page in hopes of having a gay tryst with him? You're wearing yourself ragged trying to spin this as me calling all gays pedophiles.

Gauth he wasn’t having a gay tryst. Stop making this out to be that he’s gay when he’s a pedo. It’s sick.

Gauth you will never in your life have to defend yourself against accusations of pedophilia because of your sexuality. I have. And right now you aren’t helping. In fact you are do the opposite and adding to the myth that gays are pedos

Foley being a hypocritical gay pedo does nothing to indict gay people as a whole unless you live in a red state where a good portion of the homophobes are probably in denial anyways. You're still trying to virtue signal.

I’m not Gauth. I’m just trying to defend LGBT people from homophobes like you who spread the idea that adult men having sexual relations with male teenagers is a gay tryst, when in reality it’s pedophilia and sick.

You need help Gauth.

[Caracasus]

Huh. So some absolute failure of a human being goes so deep into a mysogynistic online circlejerk that he shoots up a yoga class and NSG goes 'Well, let me tell you about the evils of feminism...'

The guy was a massive peice of shit who was ostracised everywhere, including when he was in the army. Unless things have changed massively since the last time I looked, the army isn't a bastion of feminist theory.

No doubt there were societal factors and influences that warped this guy on his journey (many of which feminist theory has been critical of by the way) but this guy was radicalized by an online mysogynistic hate club. That can't be laid at the feet of the rather nebulous bunch of theories and practise labelled 'feminism'.

[Petrasylvania]

It's not hypocrisy for Foley to push Republican anti-LGBT policies in public while sending texts to a young male page in hopes of having a gay tryst with him? You're wearing yourself ragged trying to spin this as me calling all gays pedophiles.

Gauth he wasn’t having a gay tryst. Stop making this out to be that he’s gay when he’s a pedo. It’s sick.

Foley being a hypocritical gay pedo does nothing to indict gay people as a whole unless you live in a red state where a good portion of the homophobes are probably in denial anyways. You're still trying to virtue signal.

I’m not Gauth. I’m just trying to defend LGBT people from homophobes like you who spread the idea that adult men having sexual relations with male teenagers is a gay tryst, when in reality it’s pedophilia and sick.

You need help Gauth.

Now you're being professionally offended like an SJW, AND implying there's no such thing as gay male pedophiles. As Foley proved they exist, but not at the ridiculous rates that homophobic propaganda keeps pushing. Look at the Catholic Church, look at Jerry Sandusky. Look at Jimmy Saville. It's one thing to combat the propaganda that all gays are pedophiles, but denying the existence of actual gay pedophiles altogether is high noon on a cuckoo clock.

I'm not the one needing help here.

[Galloism]

Huh. So some absolute failure of a human being goes so deep into a mysogynistic online circlejerk that he shoots up a yoga class and NSG goes 'Well, let me tell you about the evils of feminism...'

The guy was a massive peice of shit who was ostracised everywhere, including when he was in the army. Unless things have changed massively since the last time I looked, the army isn't a bastion of feminist theory.

No doubt there were societal factors and influences that warped this guy on his journey (many of which feminist theory has been critical of by the way) but this guy was radicalized by an online mysogynistic hate club. That can't be laid at the feet of the rather nebulous bunch of theories and practise labelled 'feminism'.

Eh, I wouldn't blame feminism for the shooter. People make their own decisions.

However, the social ostracism and shame of men based around gender, along with discriminatory factors like denying them access to any kind of social support (because being a man means that asking for help means you lose all right to it) is probably related. This guy died (and deserved to for his actions), but that doesn't mean we don't need to start addressing the underlying social problems that are leading to these things becoming more common, or at least apparently becoming more common.

[Valgora]

Gauth he wasn’t having a gay tryst. Stop making this out to be that he’s gay when he’s a pedo. It’s sick.


I’m not Gauth. I’m just trying to defend LGBT people from homophobes like you who spread the idea that adult men having sexual relations with male teenagers is a gay tryst, when in reality it’s pedophilia and sick.

You need help Gauth.

Now you're being professionally offended like an SJW, AND implying there's no such thing as gay male pedophiles. As Foley proved they exist, but not at the ridiculous rates that homophobic propaganda keeps pushing. Look at the Catholic Church, look at Jerry Sandusky. Look at Jimmy Saville. It's one thing to combat the propaganda that all gays are pedophiles, but denying the existence of actual gay pedophiles altogether is high noon on a cuckoo clock.

I'm not the one needing help here.

I think Therm's point is that they shouldn't be called gay pedophiles, they should just be called pedophiles. Thereby, severing any possible connection between gays and pedophiles.
At least, that's the basic point.

[Petrasylvania]

Huh. So some absolute failure of a human being goes so deep into a mysogynistic online circlejerk that he shoots up a yoga class and NSG goes 'Well, let me tell you about the evils of feminism...'

The guy was a massive peice of shit who was ostracised everywhere, including when he was in the army. Unless things have changed massively since the last time I looked, the army isn't a bastion of feminist theory.

No doubt there were societal factors and influences that warped this guy on his journey (many of which feminist theory has been critical of by the way) but this guy was radicalized by an online mysogynistic hate club. That can't be laid at the feet of the rather nebulous bunch of theories and practise labelled 'feminism'.

Eh, I wouldn't blame feminism for the shooter. People make their own decisions.

However, the social ostracism and shame of men based around gender, along with discriminatory factors like denying them access to any kind of social support (because being a man means that asking for help means you lose all right to it) is probably related. This guy died (and deserved to for his actions), but that doesn't mean we don't need to start addressing the underlying social problems that are leading to these things becoming more common, or at least apparently becoming more common.

He used to be in the Army, and the Army as a whole discouraged seeking psychiatric help for a while at least.

[Petrasylvania]

Now you're being professionally offended like an SJW, AND implying there's no such thing as gay male pedophiles. As Foley proved they exist, but not at the ridiculous rates that homophobic propaganda keeps pushing. Look at the Catholic Church, look at Jerry Sandusky. Look at Jimmy Saville. It's one thing to combat the propaganda that all gays are pedophiles, but denying the existence of actual gay pedophiles altogether is high noon on a cuckoo clock.

I'm not the one needing help here.

I think Therm's point is that they shouldn't be called gay pedophiles, they should just be called pedophiles. Thereby, severing any possible connection between gays and pedophiles.
At least, that's the basic point.

Which implies pedophilia is strictly homosexual when anyone with awareness of the world knows it's not.

[Galloism]

Eh, I wouldn't blame feminism for the shooter. People make their own decisions.

However, the social ostracism and shame of men based around gender, along with discriminatory factors like denying them access to any kind of social support (because being a man means that asking for help means you lose all right to it) is probably related. This guy died (and deserved to for his actions), but that doesn't mean we don't need to start addressing the underlying social problems that are leading to these things becoming more common, or at least apparently becoming more common.

He used to be in the Army, and the Army as a whole discouraged seeking psychiatric help for a while at least.

Yeah, that certainly was a harmful thing. Society also discourages men from seeking psychiatric help in general (even separate from the army), which also is a harmful thing.

[Thermodolia]

Now you're being professionally offended like an SJW, AND implying there's no such thing as gay male pedophiles. As Foley proved they exist, but not at the ridiculous rates that homophobic propaganda keeps pushing. Look at the Catholic Church, look at Jerry Sandusky. Look at Jimmy Saville. It's one thing to combat the propaganda that all gays are pedophiles, but denying the existence of actual gay pedophiles altogether is high noon on a cuckoo clock.

I'm not the one needing help here.

I think Therm's point is that they shouldn't be called gay pedophiles, they should just be called pedophiles. Thereby, severing any possible connection between gays and pedophiles.
At least, that's the basic point.

Exactly my point. Saying gay pedophiles just further enforces the idea that all gays are pedos. Because we never ever say straight pedophiles

[Petrasylvania]

I think Therm's point is that they shouldn't be called gay pedophiles, they should just be called pedophiles. Thereby, severing any possible connection between gays and pedophiles.
At least, that's the basic point.

Exactly my point. Saying gay pedophiles just further enforces the idea that all gays are pedos. Because we never ever say straight pedophiles

So driving a goalpost now. There was no mention of gay pedophilia when you got professionally offended over the calling out of Mark Foley.

[Valgora]

I think Therm's point is that they shouldn't be called gay pedophiles, they should just be called pedophiles. Thereby, severing any possible connection between gays and pedophiles.
At least, that's the basic point.

Which implies pedophilia is strictly homosexual when anyone with awareness of the world knows it's not.

I think it's just putting pedophiles into one group without caring about if what they were doing was homosexual or not - they're just pedophiles who's sexuality doesn't matter.
It ain't really implying pedophilia is strictly homosexual.

[Thermodolia]

I think Therm's point is that they shouldn't be called gay pedophiles, they should just be called pedophiles. Thereby, severing any possible connection between gays and pedophiles.
At least, that's the basic point.

Which implies pedophilia is strictly homosexual when anyone with awareness of the world knows it's not.

No it doesn’t. Because we all know that young boys aren’t the only victims of pedophiles. But sure continue with the homophobic belief that pedophiles are gay