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Postby Grenartia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:33 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Don’t be me started on how I’m legal because I have a camera in front of me

Gotta love those loopholes.


The one crime that becomes legal when you record yourself committing it.
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Postby Harelia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:34 pm

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Harelia wrote:Easiest way to fix this is to just shove millions of dollars into highly advanced artificial intelligence research to create customizable android women. They'd be just like the real thing, but without all the downsides. And if some nerdy little shitwagon is ever stupid enough to delete Homemaker.dll and install Protest.bat files we can all at least take solace in knowing that our armageddon will come in the form of a Skynet-like genocide of the human race via a legion of Bowsette dolls.


Or, convince the 50% of incels that are trans and haven't realized it yet to accept themselves and transition. Then they can date each other. Problem solved, for a lot cheaper.


No.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:34 pm

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Imperial Hugonia wrote:He was completely wrong to murder innocent people but it's a fact that men suffer from a lot of gendered expectations in heterosexual relationships which naturally leads to resentment and that men who aren't able to find a relationship or conform socially are looked down on.

Every time I hear this defense of InCels, I can't help but feel like this demand stems from a feeling of entitlement for sex. Some people are going to have less sex than others. We shouldn't shift societal expectations to coddle them.


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Postby Kernen » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:34 pm

Harelia wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Or, convince the 50% of incels that are trans and haven't realized it yet to accept themselves and transition. Then they can date each other. Problem solved, for a lot cheaper.


No.


I mean, both those ideas are bad.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:35 pm

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Grenartia wrote:
Or, convince the 50% of incels that are trans and haven't realized it yet to accept themselves and transition. Then they can date each other. Problem solved, for a lot cheaper.


No.


Why not?
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Postby Casspira » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:35 pm

Any mass shooter who's motivation is being an "Incel" immediately bores me. That goes for Christopher Mercer and Elliot Rodger, too.

Dylann Roof and Adam Lanza are my areas of expertise.
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Postby Berhakonia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:35 pm

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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:35 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Societal pressure plus likely unaddressed mental health problems likely resulted in his actions.



I'm just going to say "that's wrong, you know why" and leave it at that.

Ya mass murderers aren’t the victims. Ever.

Unless you want to say that the guy who shot up the black church or the guy who shot up the synagogue are victims of anti-white hate than sure go ahead and claim that this bastard is a victim.

Or better yet as soon as you say that all terrorists are the victims then you can claim it


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Postby Mardla » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:36 pm

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Mardla wrote:Dunno. Trump has expressed interest in banning porn at least. If the GOP gets a supermajority, I predict national restrictions on porn and prostitution, also ban on abortion and a reintroduction of DOMA.

You want a revolution and execution of GOP leadership? Because that’s how you get a revolution and execution of GOP leadership

Americans love their porn. They aren’t going to give it up

No one is going to lay down his life for porn.
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Postby Imperial Hugonia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:36 pm

Kernen wrote:
Imperial Hugonia wrote:He was completely wrong to murder innocent people but it's a fact that men suffer from a lot of gendered expectations in heterosexual relationships which naturally leads to resentment and that men who aren't able to find a relationship or conform socially are looked down on.

Every time I hear this defense of InCels, I can't help but feel like this demand stems from a feeling of entitlement for sex. Some people are going to have less sex than others. We shouldn't shift societal expectations to coddle them.

So when women want gendered expectations lifted it's OK, but when men want it, it's entitlement?

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Postby Kernen » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:36 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Harelia wrote:
No.


Why not?

Do we have any evidence that InCels are mostly closeted trans people?
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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:36 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Societal pressure plus likely unaddressed mental health problems likely resulted in his actions.

Is it only your guys who aren't responsible when they commit murder, or is it men in general? Is the synagogue shooter a victim too? The MAGA bomber? The 9/11 hijackers?


Again, more strawmen.
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Postby Harelia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:37 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Gotta love those loopholes.


The one crime that becomes legal when you record yourself committing it.


The literal definition of "Sharing is caring."

What strange world we live in when being able to commit a crime and go "It's okay, I have witnesses." actually holds up.

"Are you selling sex?!"

"Hear me out, Officer! I'm recording it!"

"Oh shit okay then have a nice day."
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Postby Galloism » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:37 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Societal pressure plus likely unaddressed mental health problems likely resulted in his actions.

Is it only your guys who aren't responsible when they commit murder, or is it men in general? Is the synagogue shooter a victim too? The MAGA bomber? The 9/11 hijackers?

I'm led to believe being both a victim and a perpetrator is entirely possible, simultaneously.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:38 pm

Mardla wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You want a revolution and execution of GOP leadership? Because that’s how you get a revolution and execution of GOP leadership

Americans love their porn. They aren’t going to give it up

No one is going to lay down his life for porn.


And no one is going to lay down his life to purge porn.
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Postby Kernen » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:39 pm

Mardla wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You want a revolution and execution of GOP leadership? Because that’s how you get a revolution and execution of GOP leadership

Americans love their porn. They aren’t going to give it up

No one is going to lay down his life for porn.

They don't need to lay down their lives. Just use their votes.
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Postby Berhakonia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:39 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Mardla wrote:No one is going to lay down his life for porn.


And no one is going to lay down his life to purge porn.


I'd gladly lay down my life if it means getting rid of fetishes and furries
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:40 pm

Kernen wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Why not?

Do we have any evidence that InCels are mostly closeted trans people?


I'm being totally serious, guise.
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Postby Harelia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:40 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Harelia wrote:
No.


Why not?


Because nobody is trans and 'doesn't realize it' just like how I'm not 'straight and don't realize it.'

Eternally pansexual over here. And I'll stop liking anything and everything when I stop liking it. But that doesn't mean I'm something else besides Pan. I mean later on down the road I could become the next ruler of Germany. Doesn't mean I'm 'The ruler of Germany and don't realize it.'

Forcing people to be trans seems pretty damn whack, bruh....
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Postby Kernen » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:41 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Kernen wrote:Do we have any evidence that InCels are mostly closeted trans people?


I'm being totally serious, guise.

Hey, friend, tone travels poorly on this medium.

EDIT - went for something more gender neutral. Sorry!

Berhakonia wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
And no one is going to lay down his life to purge porn.


I'd gladly lay down my life if it means getting rid of fetishes and furries


Why you gotta hate on people who aren't hurting you?
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Postby Harelia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:41 pm

Berhakonia wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
And no one is going to lay down his life to purge porn.


I'd gladly lay down my life if it means getting rid of fetishes and furries


Tough talk for someone in voring distance.
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:42 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Gotta love those loopholes.


The one crime that becomes legal when you record yourself committing it.

Except that one's willingness is documented on tape along with the sex act, while prostitution's is not. In a way that makes it more ethical than non-recorded sex, casual or monogamous, paid or unpaid, since they can no longer conflate it with rape like they can with prostitution.

As for the shooting, surely everyone who uses "virgin" or "can't get laid" as cheap shots against every idea one doesn't like has a share of the blame too? "Can't get laid" on its own might not have been too much of a problem if one had any reason to believe people otherwise respected them. In my case, the fact that I know I'm held back by sex only by fear of the risks, not unattractiveness, makes me look down on all those who look down on me. I can see how someone less resilient than me in the face of that might've snapped.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:42 pm

Berhakonia wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
And no one is going to lay down his life to purge porn.


I'd gladly lay down my life if it means getting rid of fetishes and furries


You may lay down your life, but you won't succeed. Not that you'd be able to care, since you'd be dead.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:42 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ya mass murderers aren’t the victims. Ever.

Unless you want to say that the guy who shot up the black church or the guy who shot up the synagogue are victims of anti-white hate than sure go ahead and claim that this bastard is a victim.

Or better yet as soon as you say that all terrorists are the victims then you can claim it


That totally isn't a strawman.


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Postby Harelia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:44 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Berhakonia wrote:
I'd gladly lay down my life if it means getting rid of fetishes and furries


You may lay down your life, but you won't succeed. Not that you'd be able to care, since you'd be dead.


getting rid of fetishes would be the end of civilization. If the C-Boi tags ever got erased from the internet we'd have global hellfire within the hour.
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