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Is this a Dealbreaker?

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No
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Infected Mushroom
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:14 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
This is true.

I am woefully ignorant about pop culture, technology, company names, and as a I found out to my cost the other day, terminology regarding clothes.

But let's say this exchange happened:

...

A: "How are we going to approach this discussion with the British?"

B: "Its simple. We go to the Queen and give her our proposal. We'll make it 100% hard-hitting and its a Go."

A: "... ... the Queen?"

B: "Sup?"

A: "The Queen is the ceremonial head of state. She's not the head of government."

B: "Oh? Then who is the head of government?"

A: "The Prime Minister."

B: "... ... okay."
...

Would you not be concerned? =)

No. Especially if they came from a nation like the US where there isn’t a separate head of government


Ok I admit that “head of government” vs “head of state” is maybe a bit complicated and maybe does need to be learned.

But the notion that the British monarch (the Queen) is a ceremonial power while a PM is the real deal...

This is way too shocking not to know. If you get head of state vs government wrong then whatever. But the notion that the PM calls the shot in the UK and not the Queen... ignorance of that is a bit too much.

You know what I’m saying?

And that statement is qualified to western anglosphere people (USA, Canada, NZ, Australia etc)

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Postby Valkea » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:19 am

Not a dealbreaker, but oh my god.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:25 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No. Especially if they came from a nation like the US where there isn’t a separate head of government


Ok I admit that “head of government” vs “head of state” is maybe a bit complicated and maybe does need to be learned.

But the notion that the British monarch (the Queen) is a ceremonial power while a PM is the real deal...

This is way too shocking not to know. If you get head of state vs government wrong then whatever. But the notion that the PM calls the shot in the UK and not the Queen... ignorance of that is a bit too much.

You know what I’m saying?

And that statement is qualified to western anglosphere people (USA, Canada, NZ, Australia etc)

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Postby Ithreland » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:28 am

The second date is "watching TV", where TV is a YT vid along the lines of "How Steak Is Totally Made From Cows" and a pun that I'm not taking her line of bull. 8)
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Postby The Grims » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:26 am

Ithreland wrote:The second date is "watching TV", where TV is a YT vid along the lines of "How Steak Is Totally Made From Cows" and a pun that I'm not taking her line of bull. 8)

The confusion seems to have arisen from the belief that "beef" is a specific cut of /way to prepare cow meat and that steak is a different cut or way of preparation.
Which is not that odd to think. Wrong, but not odd.

Well that or the girl believed the restaurant served cat ;)
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Postby Pope Joan » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:52 am

Yes it is a dealbreaker.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:13 pm

Lol, yeah, I hate it when dumb broads do that.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:17 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Please consider this very short and very simple hypothetical:

You are on a date, at a nice restaurant. The date is going well, then the steaks arrive (served with fine wine). You both went with a New Zealand cut of medium rare.

Your date then says:

"Did you know? Steak is NOT beef. Ground beef is beef. Steak is NOT beef..."


Depends on the steak. A beef steak is beef. A pork steak is pork. A tuna steak is tuna. A horse steak is horse, because a horse is a horse, of course, even if ground coarse.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:18 pm

People are wrong about all kinds of things. Plus, if I hadn't looked it up after reading the OP, I probably would have believed that there is some technicality whereby steak is not beef.
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Postby Dark Socialism » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:53 pm

I wouldn't have ordered steak in the first place because cows are holy, this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me because I'm used to ignorance
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:54 pm

Don't see how this would be a deal breaker, I'd just tell her she's wrong and continue our date.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:56 pm

The scenarios are getting weirder.
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Postby Geneviev » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:58 pm

Are you implying that I'm eating meat? No. And how does anyone think of these, anyways?

It wouldn't matter because it's easy to correct this idea.
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Postby Cetacea » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:00 pm

Yeah if she’s good for a shag I’ll pursue that but I’m unlikely to want to marry her, she may be alright as a third concubine but only if she’s otherwise good to talk to

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Postby Dogmeat » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:18 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Is it better than beef steaks?

It’s very juicy so yes.

Buffalo burgers are the best

But difficult to prepare. They tend to fall apart.

I actually recommend a cow-bison hybrid.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:21 pm

Dogmeat wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It’s very juicy so yes.

Buffalo burgers are the best

But difficult to prepare. They tend to fall apart.

I actually recommend a cow-bison hybrid.

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Postby Ccanda » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:26 pm

I believe that there is no "standard of intelligence" really but an "expectancy of intelligence".
Being pretty dumb myself, i don't expect my date to bee too much smarter than i am.
Plus, it would be very easy to explain to her that steak IS in fact beef... when i'm done chuckling, of course.
it would be a deal breaker how ever if she was too stubborn to see the truth once i've laid out my argument.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:32 pm

Mrs mermania voted for Hillary, if I can put up with that I dont think a girl getting confused about a cow is a deal breaker.
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Postby Forsher » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:44 pm

And here I was thinking this was going to be about pedantically ignoring standard heuristics, i.e. that steak refers to beef steak even though there are also pork, chicken, venison or kangaroo steaks (which are all common enough, especially pork steak, and possibly there are even more out there)... actually, I'm pretty sure I've heard of vege steaks.

What would be a deal breaker is being this moron. Well, I say that, maybe they're less of a dick in person.
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Postby Xmara » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:51 pm

I would probably raise my eyebrows at the comment, but it wouldn't be a dealbreaker.

As for the level of intelligence I expect in a partner, I don't have very high standards. I find intelligence to be very attractive and I would love to date a smart guy, but I probably shouldn't get my hopes up. Smart guys usually end up with smart girls.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:53 pm

What a thing to make a thing about.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:03 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:The rest of the date goes on as normal.

I'm struggling to imagine how this part might occur.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:12 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:What a thing to make a thing about.

Never before have I seen a thing so thing as this thing.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:17 pm

Risottia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Please consider this very short and very simple hypothetical:

You are on a date, at a nice restaurant. The date is going well, then the steaks arrive (served with fine wine). You both went with a New Zealand cut of medium rare.

Your date then says:

"Did you know? Steak is NOT beef. Ground beef is beef. Steak is NOT beef..."


Depends on the steak. A beef steak is beef. A pork steak is pork. A tuna steak is tuna. A horse steak is horse, because a horse is a horse, of course, even if ground coarse.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:08 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Depends on the steak. A beef steak is beef. A pork steak is pork. A tuna steak is tuna. A horse steak is horse, because a horse is a horse, of course, even if ground coarse.

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