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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:42 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:What do you mean?

Probably assuming a Republican landslide.


Not a landslide, but an 85% chance that the GOP keeps the Senate. That's hugely bad news for me to hear and not wanna just drown out with naive hyper-optimism.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:42 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:Two more days till something bad happens

What do you mean?

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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:43 pm

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I wouldn't say they don't consider them problems, but rather, not priority ones.

So what are priority problems? Because as far as I can tell, these are pretty big issues.


Evidently illegal immigration, tariff imbalances, foreign imports, tax rates, and other countries with atomic weapons...
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:43 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Probably assuming a Republican landslide.


I think she meant political violences regardless of which side comes out on top.

A big part is this yes.
I don’t know it just feels like someone somewhere is gonna start something
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:46 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Probably assuming a Republican landslide.

Hah.


That's hilarious.

Don't assume I am arrogantly Partisan, I had a suspicion Trump would win in 2016. I predicted Moore would lose personally and that Kav would be confirmed.

However, this election makes me feel the Republicans will lose badly. May not a Tsuname, but at least they'll lose the house, and I feel the Senate as well.

I'm no election genius(Would be one hell of a job though), but I feel the results are going to be positive for the Democrats.


They will not lose the Senate. There are too many things that have to go exactly right for Democrats to win, and most of them such as Texas and Tennessee are now out of reach.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:46 pm

Telconi wrote:
Kowani wrote:So what are priority problems? Because as far as I can tell, these are pretty big issues.


Evidently illegal immigration, tariff imbalances, foreign imports, tax rates, and other countries with atomic weapons...

These are problems (although the imports are debatable, along with immigration), but they’re not exactly the end of the world. Except nukes. Those are actually something that we can’t afford to ignore.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:49 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Probably assuming a Republican landslide.


Not a landslide, but an 85% chance that the GOP keeps the Senate. That's hugely bad news for me to hear and not wanna just drown out with naive hyper-optimism.

Clinton had a 75% chance of winning and now conservatives keep bragging that polling is dead.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:51 pm

Kowani wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Evidently illegal immigration, tariff imbalances, foreign imports, tax rates, and other countries with atomic weapons...

These are problems (although the imports are debatable, along with immigration), but they’re not exactly the end of the world. Except nukes. Those are actually something that we can’t afford to ignore.


*Shrug* Other people have different desires for what they think the government should do, I for example have not a damn care on the subject of education, I have no skin in that game, and I think the government more often than not, fucks it up when they do try to help.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:53 pm

Telconi wrote:
Kowani wrote:These are problems (although the imports are debatable, along with immigration), but they’re not exactly the end of the world. Except nukes. Those are actually something that we can’t afford to ignore.


*Shrug* Other people have different desires for what they think the government should do, I for example have not a damn care on the subject of education, I have no skin in that game, and I think the government more often than not, fucks it up when they do try to help.

Oh you don’t? Please, enlighten me as to how you perform surgery on yourself while singlehandedly maintaining future economic progress.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:54 pm

Kowani wrote:
Telconi wrote:
*Shrug* Other people have different desires for what they think the government should do, I for example have not a damn care on the subject of education, I have no skin in that game, and I think the government more often than not, fucks it up when they do try to help.

Oh you don’t? Please, enlighten me as to how you perform surgery on yourself while singlehandedly maintaining future economic progress.


I don't see the relevance.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:54 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Not a landslide, but an 85% chance that the GOP keeps the Senate. That's hugely bad news for me to hear and not wanna just drown out with naive hyper-optimism.

Clinton had a 75% chance of winning and now conservatives keep bragging that polling is dead.


I mean, when polling fucks up this badly, it is inevitable that skepticism will grow.

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Postby Page » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:57 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Clinton had a 75% chance of winning and now conservatives keep bragging that polling is dead.


I mean, when polling fucks up this badly, it is inevitable that skepticism will grow.


Clinton's apparent advantage accurately reflected the popular vote, the problem is she had more support than she needed in blue states and less in swing states. I also would speculate that there were quite a few people identified as "likely voters" by pollsters who ended up sitting this one out, which perhaps no one anticipated since the 2016 election seemed so all consuming to people involved with it.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:57 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Clinton had a 75% chance of winning and now conservatives keep bragging that polling is dead.


I mean, when polling fucks up this badly, it is inevitable that skepticism will grow.

75% is NOT 100%. That moronic meme needs to die like Pepe.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:58 pm

Kowani wrote:
Telconi wrote:
*Shrug* Other people have different desires for what they think the government should do, I for example have not a damn care on the subject of education, I have no skin in that game, and I think the government more often than not, fucks it up when they do try to help.

Oh you don’t? Please, enlighten me as to how you perform surgery on yourself while singlehandedly maintaining future economic progress.

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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:58 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
I mean, when polling fucks up this badly, it is inevitable that skepticism will grow.

75% is NOT 100%. That moronic meme needs to die like Pepe.


And?
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:01 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Kowani wrote:Oh you don’t? Please, enlighten me as to how you perform surgery on yourself while singlehandedly maintaining future economic progress.

Staple guns


I mean, skin carving with a knife also works.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:02 pm

Telconi wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:75% is NOT 100%. That moronic meme needs to die like Pepe.


And?

Conservatives keep talking like the polls predicted a 100% probability of a Clinton victory.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:05 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
And?

Conservatives keep talking like the polls predicted a 100% probability of a Clinton victory.


Some came close, IIRC the CNN election website predicted ">99%" chance of a Clinton victory.

Now, that doesn't mean it's impossible, CNN could have been accurate and we're just living in that less than one percent time line where Trump won in a miracle victory. But it's probably more likely that CNN was full of shit. As for other polls, who knows, there's no way to go back and run the damned election over and over to generate a verifable average,.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:11 pm

Telconi wrote:
Kowani wrote:Oh you don’t? Please, enlighten me as to how you perform surgery on yourself while singlehandedly maintaining future economic progress.


I don't see the relevance.

You say that you have no skin in the game of education. I say that young people will be the ones taking care of us when we're old, and furthermore, I say that it's easier to maintain an economy when everybody's educated.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:15 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Hah.


That's hilarious.

Don't assume I am arrogantly Partisan, I had a suspicion Trump would win in 2016. I predicted Moore would lose personally and that Kav would be confirmed.

However, this election makes me feel the Republicans will lose badly. May not a Tsuname, but at least they'll lose the house, and I feel the Senate as well.

I'm no election genius(Would be one hell of a job though), but I feel the results are going to be positive for the Democrats.


They will not lose the Senate. There are too many things that have to go exactly right for Democrats to win, and most of them such as Texas and Tennessee are now out of reach.


The most recent polls have O'Rourke within the margin of error (within 3-ish%) so recent news moves the race closer to him being an actual possibility.
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Postby Corrian » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:16 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:What do you mean?

I have no clue what’s going to happen
But the old gut says it’s gonna be bad

Just always remember, if you think things are bad now, it can always get much, much worse.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:16 pm

Kowani wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I don't see the relevance.

You say that you have no skin in the game of education. I say that young people will be the ones taking care of us when we're old, and furthermore, I say that it's easier to maintain an economy when everybody's educated.


I get it, you think that someone is "educated" if they've been repeatedly clobbered over the head with "education reforms" and force fed a curriculum that would shame a literal imbecile.

If my life was on the line, I would much prefer a surgeon who wasn't subjected to whatever this state wants to slap the misleading label of "education" on.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:24 pm

Telconi wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Conservatives keep talking like the polls predicted a 100% probability of a Clinton victory.


Some came close, IIRC the CNN election website predicted ">99%" chance of a Clinton victory.

Now, that doesn't mean it's impossible, CNN could have been accurate and we're just living in that less than one percent time line where Trump won in a miracle victory. But it's probably more likely that CNN was full of shit. As for other polls, who knows, there's no way to go back and run the damned election over and over to generate a verifable average,.

When did you start considering CNN a reliable news source?
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If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:26 pm

Telconi wrote:
Kowani wrote:You say that you have no skin in the game of education. I say that young people will be the ones taking care of us when we're old, and furthermore, I say that it's easier to maintain an economy when everybody's educated.


I get it, you think that someone is "educated" if they've been repeatedly clobbered over the head with "education reforms" and force fed a curriculum that would shame a literal imbecile.

If my life was on the line, I would much prefer a surgeon who wasn't subjected to whatever this state wants to slap the misleading label of "education" on.

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Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:30 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I get it, you think that someone is "educated" if they've been repeatedly clobbered over the head with "education reforms" and force fed a curriculum that would shame a literal imbecile.

If my life was on the line, I would much prefer a surgeon who wasn't subjected to whatever this state wants to slap the misleading label of "education" on.

Image


>Every medical professional educated somewhere that isn't California is a literal cartoon parody of a physician.

Well then, tell all those dirty people from "shithole" countries how you really feel Gauth.
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