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Postby Post War America » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:50 am

Tarsonis wrote:
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Oh hey, a tiny insignificant minority that existed before trump and will exist after trump because this is a free nation and people have the right to be wrong.


Also weren't they chanting "You will not replace us!" not "Jews will not replace us!"?


There are videos of them chanting both slogans, but one can reasonably infer that the "you" in "you will not replace us" was surrounded by three sets of parentheses.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:51 am

Valrifell wrote:
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Also weren't they chanting "You will not replace us!" not "Jews will not replace us!"?


Yes, they were still going for that Great Replacement white nationalist thing, though. So ungood either way.


True but one is just antisemitism, the other is broader white nationalism, and we should be clear and correct when talking about these people, if nothing more than so they don't have any wiggle room.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:53 am

Post War America wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Also weren't they chanting "You will not replace us!" not "Jews will not replace us!"?


There are videos of them chanting both slogans, but one can reasonably infer that the "you" in "you will not replace us" was surrounded by three sets of parentheses.


Maybe, but I'd actually think it's far more than just the Jews. The WN view all of the progressive movement as an anti-white phenomenon geared toward eliminating white people.
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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:57 am

Tarsonis wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Oh hey, a tiny insignificant minority that existed before trump and will exist after trump because this is a free nation and people have the right to be wrong.


Also weren't they chanting "You will not replace us!" not "Jews will not replace us!"?

They said "Jews". Besides, who else are they worried about being replaced by? Nothing about a meteor shower around that time.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:03 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Also weren't they chanting "You will not replace us!" not "Jews will not replace us!"?

They said "Jews". Besides, who else are they worried about being replaced by? Nothing about a meteor shower around that time.



Well there is a narrative about the Anti-white bent of the progressive desiring to remove white people from society. The left has made a habit of demonizing, particularly white males in the last 6 years or so, so the argument is that white people are being replaced with non-whites presumably.

I'll have to concede though that some were indeed chanting about the Jews,....though given population numbers I don't know how they expect the Jews are going to replace white people...
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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:04 am

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Still relevant if this attitude is still in effect.


It's just how things are now. Reps see Dems as traitorous scum who are stupid SJW dumdums (as illustrated by TEL's posts) and Dems see Reps as racist stupid dumdums.


I don't see Dems as Traitorous scum. I do think that many of their stances are ridiculous and I dislike the artificial culture they're building. But if I thought they were actively traitors rather than just wrong, I'd not be bothering to argue with them.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:04 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Also weren't they chanting "You will not replace us!" not "Jews will not replace us!"?

They said "Jews". Besides, who else are they worried about being replaced by? Nothing about a meteor shower around that time.

It was a lot of polo shirts, they could be Target employees worrying they'll be replaced by Kmart.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:05 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:They said "Jews". Besides, who else are they worried about being replaced by? Nothing about a meteor shower around that time.

It was a lot of polo shirts, they could be Target employees worrying they'll be replaced by Kmart.


Damn that actually would have been a damn funny parody video..
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:05 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:They said "Jews". Besides, who else are they worried about being replaced by? Nothing about a meteor shower around that time.



Well there is a narrative about the Anti-white bent of the progressive desiring to remove white people from society. The left has made a habit of demonizing, particularly white males in the last 6 years or so, so the argument is that white people are being replaced with non-whites presumably.

I'll have to concede though that some were indeed chanting about the Jews,....though given population numbers I don't know how they expect the Jews are going to replace white people...

Did you just try to legitimize 'anti-racist is anti-white'?
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Postby Ism » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:06 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:They said "Jews". Besides, who else are they worried about being replaced by? Nothing about a meteor shower around that time.



Well there is a narrative about the Anti-white bent of the progressive desiring to remove white people from society. The left has made a habit of demonizing, particularly white males in the last 6 years or so, so the argument is that white people are being replaced with non-whites presumably.

I'll have to concede though that some were indeed chanting about the Jews,....though given population numbers I don't know how they expect the Jews are going to replace white people...


Keep in mind that these are the sorts of people who believe that Jews are secretly in control of the world.

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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:07 am

Ism wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:

Well there is a narrative about the Anti-white bent of the progressive desiring to remove white people from society. The left has made a habit of demonizing, particularly white males in the last 6 years or so, so the argument is that white people are being replaced with non-whites presumably.

I'll have to concede though that some were indeed chanting about the Jews,....though given population numbers I don't know how they expect the Jews are going to replace white people...


Keep in mind that these are the sorts of people who believe that Jews are secretly in control of the world.



*Laughs in Catholic*
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:09 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:

Well there is a narrative about the Anti-white bent of the progressive desiring to remove white people from society. The left has made a habit of demonizing, particularly white males in the last 6 years or so, so the argument is that white people are being replaced with non-whites presumably.

I'll have to concede though that some were indeed chanting about the Jews,....though given population numbers I don't know how they expect the Jews are going to replace white people...

Did you just try to legitimize 'anti-racist is anti-white'?


:roll: No.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:16 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Do tell.


Giving Maxine Waters, who is already a republican meme, the ability to investigate anything is shooting themselves in the foot.

How? If Waters is, as you say, "a republican meme", it would seem to me that they have nothing to lose.


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The Emerald Legion wrote:
Giving Maxine Waters, who is already a republican meme, the ability to investigate anything is shooting themselves in the foot.


:roll:

Remarkable how Democrats doing anything other than rolling over and giving Trump and the GOP everything they want for the next two years is totally shooting themselves in the foot.

They could pick any random ass democrat from any district, and within a week the conservative smear machine would be in overdrive screaming about how so and so is the most radical leftist communist terrorist-loving america hater who ever lived, and all the halfwit red-hat GOP cultists would be repeating it as gospel.

I'm reminded of something I saw on Twitter earlier. The Tweets were about debating the alt-right, but the general point was "Why should we take advice from our opponents about how to beat them?" The very high IQ pop culture reference supporting this point was Scary Terry from Rick And Morty. Guy kept saying "You can run, but you can't hide, bitch", and in the end, Rick And Morty beat him by hiding.

"Yeah, well why are we taking this guy's advice on anything?"

"You got a really good point there Rick. Like, if the truth was that we could hide? It's not like he'd be sharing that information with us."

Why would Democrats take advice from Republican supporters?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:17 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:They said "Jews". Besides, who else are they worried about being replaced by? Nothing about a meteor shower around that time.



Well there is a narrative about the Anti-white bent of the progressive desiring to remove white people from society. The left has made a habit of demonizing, particularly white males in the last 6 years or so, so the argument is that white people are being replaced with non-whites presumably.

I'll have to concede though that some were indeed chanting about the Jews,....though given population numbers I don't know how they expect the Jews are going to replace white people...

Invasion of the Body Snatchers style. Jews are grown in vegetable pods that sprout next to sleeping whites.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:20 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Do tell.


Giving Maxine Waters, who is already a republican meme, the ability to investigate anything is shooting themselves in the foot.

Nah I look forward to her crack down on banks and trump
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Postby Page » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:23 am

Tarsonis wrote:
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Oh hey, a tiny insignificant minority that existed before trump and will exist after trump because this is a free nation and people have the right to be wrong.


Also weren't they chanting "You will not replace us!" not "Jews will not replace us!"?


Bullshit. I've seen the videos, it isn't ambiguous in the least.
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Postby Corrian » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:32 am

What's the funnest is our "leaders", Senate Minority and Majority, and House minority and Majority leaders, are all leagues more unpopular than Trump. We make the best leadership picks.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:34 am

Corrian wrote:What's the funnest is our "leaders", Senate Minority and Majority, and House minority and Majority leaders, are all leagues more unpopular than Trump. We make the best leadership picks.

Only because they're not crassholes who blow on dogwhistles loud enough to constitute animal cruelty.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:34 am

Corrian wrote:What's the funnest is our "leaders", Senate Minority and Majority, and House minority and Majority leaders, are all leagues more unpopular than Trump. We make the best leadership picks.


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Postby Corrian » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:40 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Corrian wrote:What's the funnest is our "leaders", Senate Minority and Majority, and House minority and Majority leaders, are all leagues more unpopular than Trump. We make the best leadership picks.

Only because they're not crassholes who blow on dogwhistles loud enough to constitute animal cruelty.

I have no idea what you're even trying to say here.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:40 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:They said "Jews". Besides, who else are they worried about being replaced by? Nothing about a meteor shower around that time.



Well there is a narrative about the Anti-white bent of the progressive desiring to remove white people from society. The left has made a habit of demonizing, particularly white males in the last 6 years or so, so the argument is that white people are being replaced with non-whites presumably.

I'll have to concede though that some were indeed chanting about the Jews,....though given population numbers I don't know how they expect the Jews are going to replace white people...

They call it the Great Replacement. The idea is that non-white migrants from the Middle East, North Africa, or Mexico have higher birthrates than white Europeans and Americans, and those migrants are being imported into the West for the specific purpose of "out-breeding" white people. And if you've guessed that this is supposedly all being orchestrated by the Jews, then award yourself a gold star. Makes sure it doesn't have six points, though.


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Petrasylvania wrote:They said "Jews". Besides, who else are they worried about being replaced by? Nothing about a meteor shower around that time.

It was a lot of polo shirts, they could be Target employees worrying they'll be replaced by Kmart.

They're all dressed like that on purpose, you know. This is their idea of looking like respectable, upstanding citizens, rather than 1488-tatooed skinheads or fedora-tipping neckbeards.
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Postby Seangoli » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:41 am

So, because its in the news:


Just because the election was on Tuesday does not mean that absentee or provisional ballots are, or can be, counted. Absentee ballots cannot even be processed until Election day and provisional ballots need to be verified before they are counted. This is all done by hand before they can even be added to the vote count, and takes considerable time to do so as they are not immefiately processed. Votes aren't necessarily being "found" for the most part, they are being processed as they cannot, by law, even be begun to be processed before Election day.


The argument being posed would make sense if we were a week or a month out from election day. We are two days out, and it takes time to actually process these types of ballots as election laws treat them somewhat differently than regular ballots.

I also find it somewhat spurious to claim that it shouldn't take this long to count votes when it is Republican based policies in some instamces that require this, particularly for provisional ballots. Creating a system thag requires more work and time for ballots, amd then bitching that it is taking too long to process is the height of ridiculousness. Amd two days is not that long when you have to process potentially thousands of ballots by hand.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:43 am

Page wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Also weren't they chanting "You will not replace us!" not "Jews will not replace us!"?


Bullshit. I've seen the videos, it isn't ambiguous in the least.


Yeah I already conceded that point.... read the whole thread next time.
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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:46 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:

Well there is a narrative about the Anti-white bent of the progressive desiring to remove white people from society. The left has made a habit of demonizing, particularly white males in the last 6 years or so, so the argument is that white people are being replaced with non-whites presumably.

I'll have to concede though that some were indeed chanting about the Jews,....though given population numbers I don't know how they expect the Jews are going to replace white people...

They call it the Great Replacement. The idea is that non-white migrants from the Middle East, North Africa, or Mexico have higher birthrates than white Europeans and Americans, and those migrants are being imported into the West for the specific purpose of "out-breeding" white people. And if you've guessed that this is supposedly all being orchestrated by the Jews, then award yourself a gold star. Makes sure it doesn't have six points, though.


If it was true, I don't know if I'd be alarmed or impressed...
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Hakons » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:03 am

Welp, Florida has once again combined incompetency of electoral officials with razor thin win margins to make another mess.
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