US Midterm Elections Megathread III: Hitting The Wall

[Washington Resistance Army]

Better idea, we get everyone to go live in the country.

Only if the rural areas are connected by high speed rail and have a functioning area to do one's business in. My biggest gripe with rural areas is honestly that it takes way too long to get anywhere.

It takes about 15-20 mins to get anywhere from where I currently live but honestly it's great. America needs to hop on that agrarianism train.

[Seangoli]

"Jews Will Not Replace Us" is now a valid political view. Lovely.

Sounds like the Palestinians.

Which has nothing to do with anything.

[Petrasylvania]

"Jews Will Not Replace Us" is now a valid political view. Lovely.

Sounds like the Palestinians.

Yet for some reason white supremacists hate Palestinians instead of seeing them as kindred spirit and helping them out.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Sounds like the Palestinians.

Yet for some reason white supremacists hate Palestinians instead of seeing them as kindred spirit and helping them out.

That depends heavily on the white supremacist in question. iirc the American Nazi Party of old and the current version have both vocally supported Palestine.

[The Emerald Legion]

Why are you using him as an example

The game is that Telconi's going to keep asking if you disagree with him, then when you say that you do he'll start jumping up and down going "See! See! You think he's bad because he disagrees with you!" and somehow this will prove something.

I mean. While this is a terrible delivery he has a point.

When your arguments for why your opponents are evil begins and ends at "They hold views I disagree with." Then that's kind of a slippery slope.

And while Richard Spencer is a terrible example, this tendency for the Democrats to poison the well and posit a purely political battle as a moral Crusade to drum up votes is a problem.

[Arlenton]

Texas Republicans seemed to have made gains with Hispanics. But took a huge loss with urban whites.

Crazy that Abbott managed to flip some Hispanic-majority counties in south Texas in such a high turnout election.

[Post War America]

Only if the rural areas are connected by high speed rail and have a functioning area to do one's business in. My biggest gripe with rural areas is honestly that it takes way too long to get anywhere.

It takes about 15-20 mins to get anywhere from where I currently live but honestly it's great. America needs to hop on that agrarianism train.

Oh, what about a series of agricultural arcologies? That way you can get the best of urban and rural areas with none of that crappy suburban sprawl.

[Blackledge]

Sounds like the Palestinians.

Yet for some reason white supremacists hate Palestinians instead of seeing them as kindred spirit and helping them out.

It is a curious thing. Supremacists like Spencer love Israel and tout it as an example.

Then neo-Nazis cheer for Palestine against Israel.
https://www.jpost.com/International/Neo-Nazis-wave-Palestinian-flags-in-protest-against-Israel-556416

[Farnhamia]

The game is that Telconi's going to keep asking if you disagree with him, then when you say that you do he'll start jumping up and down going "See! See! You think he's bad because he disagrees with you!" and somehow this will prove something.

I mean. While this is a terrible delivery he has a point.

When your arguments for why your opponents are evil begins and ends at "They hold views I disagree with." Then that's kind of a slippery slope.

And while Richard Spencer is a terrible example, this tendency for the Democrats to poison the well and posit a purely political battle as a moral Crusade to drum up votes is a problem.

Really, I mean, the GOP was campaigning on the merits of their legislative agenda and the economy while the Democrats were fear-mongering up and down the landscape. Sad.

[Telconi]

Texas Republicans seemed to have made gains with Hispanics. But took a huge loss with urban whites.

Crazy that Abbott managed to flip some Hispanic-majority counties in south Texas in such a high turnout election.

As much as people go on about race. or income, or whatnot, rural/urban is the big divide in America I think.

[Post War America]

Texas Republicans seemed to have made gains with Hispanics. But took a huge loss with urban whites.

Crazy that Abbott managed to flip some Hispanic-majority counties in south Texas in such a high turnout election.

As much as people go on about race. or income, or whatnot, rural/urban is the big divide in America I think.

That's accurate.

[Corrian]

Only if the rural areas are connected by high speed rail and have a functioning area to do one's business in. My biggest gripe with rural areas is honestly that it takes way too long to get anywhere.

It takes about 15-20 mins to get anywhere from where I currently live but honestly it's great. America needs to hop on that agrarianism train.

Psh, it takes me an hour 1/2 to get to Seattle.

About 25 to 30 minutes to get to a major town (Only because it takes like 5 minutes just to get out of our neighborhood and onto the highway)

[Post War America]

It takes about 15-20 mins to get anywhere from where I currently live but honestly it's great. America needs to hop on that agrarianism train.

Psh, it takes me an hour 1/2 to get to Seattle.

About 25 to 30 minutes to get to a major town (Only because it takes like 5 minutes just to get out of our neighborhood and onto the highway)

I assume this is also via the use of a personal motor vehicle.

[Petrolheadia]

It takes about 15-20 mins to get anywhere from where I currently live but honestly it's great. America needs to hop on that agrarianism train.

Oh, what about a series of agricultural arcologies? That way you can get the best of urban and rural areas with none of that crappy suburban sprawl.

Part of the coolness of a farm is that it isn't multi-storey or as expensive as a skyscraper.

[Arlenton]

Texas Republicans seemed to have made gains with Hispanics. But took a huge loss with urban whites.

Crazy that Abbott managed to flip some Hispanic-majority counties in south Texas in such a high turnout election.

As much as people go on about race. or income, or whatnot, rural/urban is the big divide in America I think.

That seems to be true. But still, the fact that a Republican flipped ~80% Hispanic counties in South Texas despite the Dem candidate at the top of the ballot getting more votes than Hillary Clinton is pretty impressive.

Maybe this massive rural shift to the GOP doesn't just apply to rural whites.

[Petrolheadia]

Psh, it takes me an hour 1/2 to get to Seattle.

About 25 to 30 minutes to get to a major town (Only because it takes like 5 minutes just to get out of our neighborhood and onto the highway)

I assume this is also via the use of a personal motor vehicle.

And so?

[Ngelmish]

The game is that Telconi's going to keep asking if you disagree with him, then when you say that you do he'll start jumping up and down going "See! See! You think he's bad because he disagrees with you!" and somehow this will prove something.

I mean. While this is a terrible delivery he has a point.

When your arguments for why your opponents are evil begins and ends at "They hold views I disagree with." Then that's kind of a slippery slope.

And while Richard Spencer is a terrible example, this tendency for the Democrats to poison the well and posit a purely political battle as a moral Crusade to drum up votes is a problem.

It's a point only if you think that a tangential digression into moral condemnation is more compelling than engaging on one's own policy preferences on their merits. Note that Lumen does engage on those merits, albeit simplistically. Note that Telconi takes simplistic moral potshots and declines to engage on the merits when asked.

It's not much of a point.

[Telconi]

As much as people go on about race. or income, or whatnot, rural/urban is the big divide in America I think.

That seems to be true. But still, the fact that a Republican flipped ~80% Hispanic counties in South Texas despite the Dem candidate at the top of the ballot getting more votes than Hillary Clinton is pretty impressive.

Maybe this massive rural shift to the GOP doesn't just apply to rural whites.

Oh, I don't think it's just rural whites, I live in a majority Hispanic county, and it's deep red.

[Post War America]

I assume this is also via the use of a personal motor vehicle.

And so?

It is ridiculous to cater only to the interests of motorists, especially since car based infrastructure in particular is far worse for any other form of transport network than are the others to motorist transport. Further car infrastructure is more expensive to maintain both for the individual and for the state than any other form of short-intermediate range transport infrastructure.

Sauce for a goodly chunk of my claims. and another source.

[Telconi]

I mean. While this is a terrible delivery he has a point.

When your arguments for why your opponents are evil begins and ends at "They hold views I disagree with." Then that's kind of a slippery slope.

And while Richard Spencer is a terrible example, this tendency for the Democrats to poison the well and posit a purely political battle as a moral Crusade to drum up votes is a problem.

It's a point only if you think that a tangential digression into moral condemnation is more compelling than engaging on one's own policy preferences on their merits. Note that Lumen does engage on those merits, albeit simplistically. Note that Telconi takes simplistic moral potshots and declines to engage on the merits when asked.

It's not much of a point.

Policies do not have merit, if divorced from morality.

[Arlenton]

That seems to be true. But still, the fact that a Republican flipped ~80% Hispanic counties in South Texas despite the Dem candidate at the top of the ballot getting more votes than Hillary Clinton is pretty impressive.

Maybe this massive rural shift to the GOP doesn't just apply to rural whites.

Oh, I don't think it's just rural whites, I live in a majority Hispanic county, and it's deep red.

Yeah. South Texas shifting red is just really weird.

[Post War America]

Oh, I don't think it's just rural whites, I live in a majority Hispanic county, and it's deep red.

Yeah. South Texas shifting red is just really weird.

On the other hand, the urban counties are growing explosively which may be a concern for Republicans.

[Wyatts Insulin Pack]

Yet for some reason white supremacists hate Palestinians instead of seeing them as kindred spirit and helping them out.

That depends heavily on the white supremacist in question. iirc the American Nazi Party of old and the current version have both vocally supported Palestine.

There has never been an American Nazi Party. Besides Palestine is human. The only problem was we slowly gave Israel parts of their land instead of giving them Iran.

[Petrolheadia]

And so?

It is ridiculous to cater only to the interests of motorists, especially since car based infrastructure in particular is far worse for any other form of transport network than are the others to motorist transport. Further car infrastructure is more expensive to maintain both for the individual and for the state than any other form of short-intermediate range transport infrastructure.

Sauce for a goodly chunk of my claims.

91.3% of American households own cars, and even more in the rural areas.

It'd be a theft not to spend taxes on infrastructure that is used by over 95% of the area's residents.

[Senkaku]

I'd be in favor of an urban-rural coalition to fuck the suburbs. Make Cities High Density Again!

Better idea, we get everyone to go live in the country.

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and after all, it's a...

Disingenuosly ignoring someone's record of white supremacy just to claim that disliking that individual solely boils down to disagreeing with their political views?

White nationalism is a political view. It's a perfectly valid point.

:^)