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Postby Blackledge » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:16 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Military coup is more likely

Now if you will excuse me for one moment


Enough with your coup nonsense. The military isnt going to do that. They take an oath to uphold the constitution.


Technically if they felt the constitution were in danger or had been cast aside or whatever, that might be what motivates such a coup. You're really just listing a reason why one would happen.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:17 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Military coup is more likely

Now if you will excuse me for one moment


Enough with your coup nonsense. The military isnt going to do that. They take an oath to uphold the constitution.


It's not like they ever fired on the civilians.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:17 am

Scott Walker was narrowly ousted in Wisconsin, and a law he put in place means he can't ask for a recount

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Postby Blackledge » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:18 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Blackledge wrote:They were black kids and parents were there.

I'm not ignorant of the racial connotations, but it definitely strikes me as a situation where someone chooses to be offended rather than inferring the common meaning of such phrases. It reminds me of Stephen Crowder losing a debate on socialism and choosing to instead focus on his opponent's use of the word "autistic" instead.


Hmmmm? Not enough time has passed for ape references to be a thing of the past. Even in your classroom example. There is a difference between telling all kids to not monkey around and telling the black kid to not monkey around.


Maybe it's a regional difference.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:19 am


Oh that’s funny
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Postby Telconi » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:19 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Military coup is more likely

Now if you will excuse me for one moment


Enough with your coup nonsense. The military isnt going to do that. They take an oath to uphold the constitution.


They did that in the 1860s too y'know.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:20 am

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A military coup?

I'd much rather prefer a coup backed by immense popularity and the premise of National Renewal, k thx

I mean it could be backed by the will of the people and all. And it can also be National renewal


If the civic concept of "Panem et circenses" is to be interpreted positively and trusted, the citizenry will care little about the rise of an authoritarian *centrist* government as long as they have jobs, homes, and the state doesn't f*ck up.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:20 am

Dahon wrote:
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The power of the gerrymander compels you!

I just want to reiterate that you can't gerrymander Senate seats.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:21 am


Karma is such a beautiful thing. I hope for 2020 that the Supreme Leader will be ousted. Plus now that Evers is governor the State legislature will be un gerrymandered.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:22 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Oh that’s funny

Karma is such a beautiful thing. I hope for 2020 that the Supreme Leader will be ousted. Plus now that Evers is governor the State legislature will be un gerrymandered.


If he's the Supreme Leader he can't be ousted.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:22 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Oh that’s funny

Karma is such a beautiful thing. I hope for 2020 that the Supreme Leader will be ousted. Plus now that Evers is governor the State legislature will be un gerrymandered.


""""Ungerrymandered""""
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:22 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Oh that’s funny

Karma is such a beautiful thing. I hope for 2020 that the Supreme Leader will be ousted. Plus now that Evers is governor the State legislature will be un gerrymandered.

Trump is winning in 2020.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:23 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Karma is such a beautiful thing. I hope for 2020 that the Supreme Leader will be ousted. Plus now that Evers is governor the State legislature will be un gerrymandered.


If he's the Supreme Leader he can't be ousted.


Why can't the Supreme Leader be ousted? The first order suffered huge loses and now the final battle is in sight.
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Postby Arlenton » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:23 am

Looks like Young Kim is going to win, barring a huge Dem wave in absentee ballots. First Korean woman in Congress!
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Postby Blackledge » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:23 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Karma is such a beautiful thing. I hope for 2020 that the Supreme Leader will be ousted. Plus now that Evers is governor the State legislature will be un gerrymandered.


If he's the Supreme Leader he can't be ousted.


lol this

Is the "Supreme Leader" drama necessary?
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:24 am

Napkiraly wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Karma is such a beautiful thing. I hope for 2020 that the Supreme Leader will be ousted. Plus now that Evers is governor the State legislature will be un gerrymandered.

Trump is winning in 2020.

Depends who the Democrats throw at him. If its Pelosi, Warren, or Sanders, good luck. And someone will have to pick my jaw up off the floor if I ever hear the words "president elect Schumer"
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Postby Arlenton » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:24 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Oh that’s funny

Karma is such a beautiful thing. I hope for 2020 that the Supreme Leader will be ousted. Plus now that Evers is governor the State legislature will be un gerrymandered.

Don't you mean re-gerrymandered?
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Postby Telconi » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:24 am

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
If he's the Supreme Leader he can't be ousted.


Why can't the Supreme Leader be ousted? The first order suffered huge loses and now the final battle is in sight.


>Compared political opponents to literal fantasy villains...

Tell me more about how you care about the other side...
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Postby Blackledge » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:24 am

Arlenton wrote:Looks like Young Kim is going to win, barring a huge Dem wave in absentee ballots. First Korean woman in Congress!

Kim, eh?

She can be Supreme Leader. 8)
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:24 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Karma is such a beautiful thing. I hope for 2020 that the Supreme Leader will be ousted. Plus now that Evers is governor the State legislature will be un gerrymandered.


""""Ungerrymandered""""


More like regerrymandered, but to THEIR side's favour instead.

Let's be real here, both sides are crooks and steaming piles of crap, yet people still are ignorant and embrace the two only parties that will gladly take your money and do whatever it feels like.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:24 am

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
If he's the Supreme Leader he can't be ousted.


Why can't the Supreme Leader be ousted?


Because by the very nature of such a position they can't just be removed.
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Postby Page » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:25 am

Blackledge wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
If he's the Supreme Leader he can't be ousted.


lol this

Is the "Supreme Leader" drama necessary?


Well, Trump isn't a "Supreme Leader", but he certainly wishes that he was.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:25 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Telconi wrote:
""""Ungerrymandered""""


More like regerrymandered, but to THEIR side's favour instead.

Let's be real here, both sides are crooks and steaming piles of crap, yet people still are ignorant and embrace the two only parties that will gladly take your money and do whatever it feels like.


But it's not really gerrymandering if it benefits people Lumen wants to benefit!
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:26 am

Arlenton wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Karma is such a beautiful thing. I hope for 2020 that the Supreme Leader will be ousted. Plus now that Evers is governor the State legislature will be un gerrymandered.

Don't you mean re-gerrymandered?

The state legislature is still Republican but Evers can veto maps he doesnt like meaning they will have to work with him on a map he deems fair.
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Postby Blackledge » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:26 am

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
If he's the Supreme Leader he can't be ousted.


Why can't the Supreme Leader be ousted? The first order suffered huge loses and now the final battle is in sight.

I actually sympathized more with the First Order since the Republic/Resistance seemed to be full of idiots.

But the Disney Wars films are awful anyway, so that probably explains it.
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