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Postby Ifreann » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:13 am

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Corrian wrote:Hence the "Whose ready for the shit fest of tomorrow, know matter what happens?"


The US tomorrow:

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Except half of the country will stay home.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:15 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ism wrote:
The US tomorrow:


Except half of the country will stay home.


It does, however, look like turnout will be fantastic for midterm standards.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:17 am

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Well first, as Conservative Morality pointed out, most Democrats do actually support limits to abortion, and more importantly support policies aimed at preventing unwanted pregnancies like sex education and contraception, and at making carrying the child to term a more viable option via support for medical, financial, education and food assistance for struggling families. Meanwhile yes, Republicans want to ban abortion! While all of their other policies on those issues are designed to create more unwanted pregnancies and make abortion a far more attractive option for struggling women/couples/families.

But in any case, the problem with that entire line of thinking is that, well, it is an article of Christian dogma that we live in a fallen, sinful world. Meaning there will always be some bad thing out there, some justification or reason for compromising your faith in the name of the 'greater good'. And if there is always a reason a to compromise your values here, always an excuse to look the other way while supporting a morally bankrupt person or cause there...then what's the point?

The problem is our current political landscape regards poor mothers and poor families as a voting point, rather than as actual people who need help and support. The poor whites who voted for Trump after the election got berated and scoffed by every media outlet, got called uneducated buffoons, etc. And yet we probably will not hear about them again until 2020. Meanwhile, as Christians we have to look especially hard for politicians to support, in a political landscape that mostly either does lip-service to our faith and its teachings or that disregards us outright. I personally don’t know who I will vote for yet, and voting is tomorrow. I am quite anxious about who to pick. At the same time, however, voting pro-life is important to me, as it is to many of us, because life from conception to natural death is important to us as a core part of our Christian faith. Of course, for many of us this includes caring for the poor and loving our neighbor as ourselves.



If you want my advice, for the betterment of your country vote moderate.
The division of US politics is damaging the US's structure and foundation, The increasing rabid hatred between right and left goes against the christian ideal of love and be loved. There have been riots, killings, insults, bomb attacks, and much much more violence against the right and left. Nazis and other far right groups parading around with guns out, Anfta causing riots. Far right people shooting up synagogues.

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But seriously, I would recommend anyone moderate.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:27 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Except half of the country will stay home.


It does, however, look like turnout will be fantastic for midterm standards.

and that bodes well for Democrats but after 2016 I am not counting my chickens before they hatch. I consider no election as written in stone.

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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:27 am

As a personal anecdote, I might add that I've met countless numbers of Republicans and independents casting Dem votes in the House/Senate here in AZ. As a cherry on top, voters who have never voted before, the people who are known as "not likely voters," are determined to vote for Sinema/O'Halleran. This is just what I've noticed, but compared to the droves of relatively moderate people I met "strongly considering Trump" just two years ago, I'm a fuckton more optimistic about the general mood of the election this year.

Especially compared to 2014 - canvassing and campaigning in AZ in 2014 compared to 2018, well, let's just say there is no comparison. Polls are quite reliable, and should be within the margins of error this year, but I'm just banking on a possibly naive hope that the mood I see continues on election day and shows in the results (at least here in AZ).

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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:28 am

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and that bodes well for Democrats but after 2016 I am not counting my chickens before they hatch. I consider no election as written in stone.


Of course. For all we know, it could be a combination of fired up Democrats and fired up Trump Republicans. I consider it more than likely that both bases are as fired up as they have been in a while rn. It's just a matter of who the Independents are going to go for in tight races.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:30 am

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San Lumen wrote:and that bodes well for Democrats but after 2016 I am not counting my chickens before they hatch. I consider no election as written in stone.


Of course. For all we know, it could be a combination of fired up Democrats and fired up Trump Republicans. I consider it more than likely that both bases are as fired up as they have been in a while rn. It's just a matter of who the Independents are going to go for in tight races.

Exactly I dont care if its a election in the Bronx or or rural Oklahoma. I dont consider anything as certain when it comes to politics anymore. That is why I am doing GOTV today. I want to feel like I played my part.

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Postby Valrifell » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:36 am

Lads, don't be mad but I don't think I can vote this cycle. Soz.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:37 am

Valrifell wrote:Lads, don't be mad but I don't think I can vote this cycle. Soz.


You better be kidding there, guy.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:37 am

Valrifell wrote:Lads, don't be mad but I don't think I can vote this cycle. Soz.

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Postby Valrifell » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:39 am

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Valrifell wrote:Lads, don't be mad but I don't think I can vote this cycle. Soz.


You better be kidding there, guy.


I never got my mail ballot and can't get to my registered location to get to a poll.

Plz no bullying ;-;
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:40 am

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Mystic Warriors wrote:I see no path to 51 in the senate for the Democrats. The GOP successfully stole North Dakota, let's hope they dont steal Indiana too.


The path to 51 is an upset either in TN or TX.

TX would be particularly hilarious so fingers crossed.

It would be fucking awesome to see Cruz out of a job
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:42 am

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The path to 51 is an upset either in TN or TX.

TX would be particularly hilarious so fingers crossed.

It would be fucking awesome to see Cruz out of a job


We might see an uptick in victims of the Zodiac killer, though.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:44 am

Corrian wrote:Soon we are free of election season...And therefore the most of politics (Though it seems like a constant political drama with Trump in office)

...Until 2019 when people start announcing they're running for President.

More than likely we won’t be free until December 4th. Because that’s when the runoffs in Georgia happen. And there will be runoffs
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:48 am

So apparently the Georgia Secretary of State race is looking a lot like a surprise win for the democrats. If Kemp’s wins the Governorship but the democrats win the SoS then Kemp is going to be in a world of hurt. I bet you that the democrats will launch investigations into Kemp
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Postby Painisia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:48 am

Hard for me to choose, but I got Democrats on ISideWith.com. Think I am going Independent.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:49 am

Valrifell wrote:
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You better be kidding there, guy.


I never got my mail ballot and can't get to my registered location to get to a poll.

Plz no bullying ;-;


I do know Lyft and Uber are giving discounted rides to polls. I have a lot of buddies utilizing that method.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:51 am

Valrifell wrote:
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You better be kidding there, guy.


I never got my mail ballot and can't get to my registered location to get to a poll.

Plz no bullying ;-;

If you really loved America you'd walk to the polling place.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:55 am

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I never got my mail ballot and can't get to my registered location to get to a poll.

Plz no bullying ;-;


I do know Lyft and Uber are giving discounted rides to polls. I have a lot of buddies utilizing that method.


I don't support either service and I'm a mild agoraphobic. Being in a car with a stranger just sounds terrifying.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:56 am

Painisia wrote:Hard for me to choose, but I got Democrats on ISideWith.com. Think I am going Independent.

I got 55 percent of democratic views and 55 percent Republican. I agreed with repubs on social issues mostly, but dems on the things that really matter: healthcare, economy, taxes (on the rich and businesses), and welfare.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:57 am

Ifreann wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
I never got my mail ballot and can't get to my registered location to get to a poll.

Plz no bullying ;-;

If you really loved America you'd walk to the polling place.


Great, now I have to turn in my American standard bald eagle, AR-15, and cowboy hat.
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Postby Painisia » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:14 am

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Painisia wrote:Hard for me to choose, but I got Democrats on ISideWith.com. Think I am going Independent.

I got 55 percent of democratic views and 55 percent Republican. I agreed with repubs on social issues mostly, but dems on the things that really matter: healthcare, economy, taxes (on the rich and businesses), and welfare.


For me, the US two-party system is a bit irrational. It increases polarization and bars people from having more nuanced views. The alt-right republicans should get their own party, the moderates on both sides also should have their own parties, same with Occupy Democrats. And the libertarians
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Postby Telconi » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:15 am

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Thuzbekistan wrote:I got 55 percent of democratic views and 55 percent Republican. I agreed with repubs on social issues mostly, but dems on the things that really matter: healthcare, economy, taxes (on the rich and businesses), and welfare.


For me, the US two-party system is a bit irrational. It increases polarization and bars people from having more nuanced views. The alt-right republicans should get their own party, the moderates on both sides also should have their own parties, same with Occupy Democrats. And the libertarians


It's the natural result of the electoral system we have, it encourages large "big tent" parties.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:20 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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The path to 51 is an upset either in TN or TX.

TX would be particularly hilarious so fingers crossed.

It would be fucking awesome to see Cruz out of a job

If O'Rourke wins I think i will faint.
Thermodolia wrote:So apparently the Georgia Secretary of State race is looking a lot like a surprise win for the democrats. If Kemp’s wins the Governorship but the democrats win the SoS then Kemp is going to be in a world of hurt. I bet you that the democrats will launch investigations into Kemp


He was probably the best candidate they could get for that for very important position. Democrats looks likely to gain several other Secretary of State, probably Colorado, Michigan, Ohio, Nevada and possibly a few others.

Here in New York we dont elect the Secretary of State its appointed by the Governor and they dont handle elections. Instead we have the New York Board of elections which is also appointed by the Governor and is required by law to be bi partisan. In other words there must be a two chairpersons, one from each party.

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Postby Mardla » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:39 am

Painisia wrote:Hard for me to choose, but I got Democrats on ISideWith.com. Think I am going Independent.

Independent is actually a far right party, it doesn't mean non partisan. Lmao, their rolls are filled with people who don't know that.
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