No, I said that a junta which protects people's rights is better than a democracy which fails to. Regardless, the repeateddy expressed point is that I dislike Democracy as it exists in California, precisely because of it's "particular foible(s)"
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by Telconi » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:04 pm

by Thermodolia » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:09 pm
Oldenfranck wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Actually not really. Gwinnett county, the metro counties, sans FoCo, several small towns in north and South Georgia don’t give a shit about who you sleep with. Actually a majority of Georgians think same sex marriage is fine.
It’s just that we are slow to change our laws.
What's up with the rural GA counties that went Clinton to Kemp? Was it just low black turnout or something?

by Kowani » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:12 pm
Telconi wrote:Shrillland wrote:
Well, you've said you've no problem with a junta if it means undoing certain policies, I thought. If not, my apologies.
No, I said that a junta which protects people's rights is better than a democracy which fails to. Regardless, the repeateddy expressed point is that I dislike Democracy as it exists in California, precisell because of it's "particular foible(s)"
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.

by Telconi » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:13 pm
Kowani wrote:Telconi wrote:
No, I said that a junta which protects people's rights is better than a democracy which fails to. Regardless, the repeateddy expressed point is that I dislike Democracy as it exists in California, precisell because of it's "particular foible(s)"
Wait. Let me guess what the largest foible is...guns.

by Kowani » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:16 pm
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.

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by Thermodolia » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:17 pm

by Telconi » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:18 pm

by Kowani » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:25 pm
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.

by Kowani » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:26 pm
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.

by San Lumen » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:50 pm

by Freezic Vast » Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:15 am
San Lumen wrote:Telconi wrote:
Hey, not my fault you hate human rights. At the very least I can not aid you.
Its not about that. You simply dont like people have the audacity to disagree with you and that a vote of someone on the coast counts the same as yours. You and other seem to have trouble understanding the concept of population density and geography

by Frievolk » Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:21 am
Freezic Vast wrote:San Lumen wrote:
Its not about that. You simply dont like people have the audacity to disagree with you and that a vote of someone on the coast counts the same as yours. You and other seem to have trouble understanding the concept of population density and geography
Or maybe you have trouble understand that your "free and fair elections" are not so free or fair at all.
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by Major-Tom » Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:48 am
Freezic Vast wrote:San Lumen wrote:
Its not about that. You simply dont like people have the audacity to disagree with you and that a vote of someone on the coast counts the same as yours. You and other seem to have trouble understanding the concept of population density and geography
Or maybe you have trouble understand that your "free and fair elections" are not so free or fair at all.

by Vassenor » Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:26 am

by Telconi » Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:07 am

by San Lumen » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:24 am
Freezic Vast wrote:San Lumen wrote:
Its not about that. You simply dont like people have the audacity to disagree with you and that a vote of someone on the coast counts the same as yours. You and other seem to have trouble understanding the concept of population density and geography
Or maybe you have trouble understand that your "free and fair elections" are not so free or fair at all.

by Freezic Vast » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:29 am
San Lumen wrote:Freezic Vast wrote:Or maybe you have trouble understand that your "free and fair elections" are not so free or fair at all.
They are perfectly free and fair. You simply don’t like that people who disagree with you have a say and that more populated areas get more representation than you and your candidates lose statewide elections because they get less votes despite getting more land area .Telconi wrote:
There is a fundamental difference between disagreeing, and forcing said disagreement on the other side.
Do you not understand how government works? What congress and the state legislature passes applies to all not just some.
In California a law passed in Sacramento has equal weight in Los Angeles as it does in Lassen County.

by San Lumen » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:32 am
Freezic Vast wrote:San Lumen wrote:They are perfectly free and fair. You simply don’t like that people who disagree with you have a say and that more populated areas get more representation than you and your candidates lose statewide elections because they get less votes despite getting more land area .
Do you not understand how government works? What congress and the state legislature passes applies to all not just some.
In California a law passed in Sacramento has equal weight in Los Angeles as it does in Lassen County.
There is nothing free or fair about our electoral system at all, you would say the same thing if your side lost.
And do you not understand that it's only in the interest of their agenda and for their voters, while everyone else gets screwed over? Oh wait, you don't care, you'll remain a partisan hack and act like everything is perfectly fine and then start bitching about it when your side loses.

by Freezic Vast » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:34 am
San Lumen wrote:Freezic Vast wrote:There is nothing free or fair about our electoral system at all, you would say the same thing if your side lost.
And do you not understand that it's only in the interest of their agenda and for their voters, while everyone else gets screwed over? Oh wait, you don't care, you'll remain a partisan hack and act like everything is perfectly fine and then start bitching about it when your side loses.
By your logic no election is free and fair because someone always loses
And once again you show a total lack of understanding of how things work. Do you honestly believe your Governor and state legislature plot ways to screw you over in some mass conspiracy?

by San Lumen » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:39 am
Freezic Vast wrote:San Lumen wrote:By your logic no election is free and fair because someone always loses
And once again you show a total lack of understanding of how things work. Do you honestly believe your Governor and state legislature plot ways to screw you over in some mass conspiracy?
By your logic you are wrong.
I don't need a fucking lecture from you, I know how my state government works, and no I don't believe that, but apparently you think I do, which you are so fucking wrong!

by Freezic Vast » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:40 am
San Lumen wrote:Freezic Vast wrote:By your logic you are wrong.
I don't need a fucking lecture from you, I know how my state government works, and no I don't believe that, but apparently you think I do, which you are so fucking wrong!
Then explain to me how our elections are not free and fair and representation is unequal. Because your candidates lost and you have less population and therefore less representation?
Why should the Philadelphia metro area or Los Angeles be shafted our of their fair share of representation?

by Vassenor » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:41 am
Freezic Vast wrote:San Lumen wrote:
Then explain to me how our elections are not free and fair and representation is unequal. Because your candidates lost and you have less population and therefore less representation?
Why should the Philadelphia metro area or Los Angeles be shafted our of their fair share of representation?
Because proportional representation is better.

by San Lumen » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:45 am
Freezic Vast wrote:San Lumen wrote:
Then explain to me how our elections are not free and fair and representation is unequal. Because your candidates lost and you have less population and therefore less representation?
Why should the Philadelphia metro area or Los Angeles be shafted our of their fair share of representation?
Because proportional representation is better.

by Freezic Vast » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:47 am
San Lumen wrote:Freezic Vast wrote:Because proportional representation is better.
How would that make your representatives represent you as opposed to now? And that would change nothing for statewide elections.
Riddle me this: are the small number of republicans in Philadelphia not represented by the city council, the mayor and other citywide officials elected overwhelmingly in a free and fair election?
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