US Midterm Elections Megathread III: Hitting The Wall

[San Lumen]

It’s called population density. Something you seem to have trouble understanding

So why not put a small chunk of Sacramento in?

Because why should their votes be diluted being placed in the same district as someone in Lassen County? That’s not even taking into account such a district would not be allowed as it would not be compact. The Sacramento metro area has enough density it gets more than one district

Sacramento is large enough to be in one district with some of its suburbs which it is from the looks of the district map

[Telconi]

So why not put a small chunk of Sacramento in?

Because why should their votes be diluted being placed in the same district as someone in Lassen County? That’s not even taking into account such a district would not be allowed as it would not be compact. The Sacramento metro area has enough density it gets more than one district

Sacramento is large enough to be in one district with some of its suburbs which it is from the looks of the district map

Well, bease gerrymandering is bad. Or, so you say.

Also, I fail to understand how including a small portion of Sacramento, with a far more dense population than a sparsely populated rural county, and thus creating a district with the correct number of people, and less landmass, would be disallowed for not being "compact"...

[San Lumen]

Because why should their votes be diluted being placed in the same district as someone in Lassen County? That’s not even taking into account such a district would not be allowed as it would not be compact. The Sacramento metro area has enough density it gets more than one district

Sacramento is large enough to be in one district with some of its suburbs which it is from the looks of the district map

Well, bease gerrymandering is bad. Or, so you say.

Also, I fail to understand how including a small portion of Sacramento, with a far more dense population than a sparsely populated rural county, and thus creating a district with the correct number of people, and less landmass, would be disallowed for not being "compact"...

Beacause the capital region is too large to be placed into a district with a rural county. It would not be fair to them. Republicans did that to Austin and split it over multiple districts and therefore only a small part of the city is represented by a a democrat

[Shrillland]

Well, bease gerrymandering is bad. Or, so you say.

Also, I fail to understand how including a small portion of Sacramento, with a far more dense population than a sparsely populated rural county, and thus creating a district with the correct number of people, and less landmass, would be disallowed for not being "compact"...

Beacause the capital region is too large to be placed into a district with a rural county. It would not be fair to them. Republicans did that to Austin and split it over multiple districts and therefore only a small part of the city is represented by a a democrat

Keep in mind, Lumen, Tel and Freezic's problem is with democracy itself, not any particular foible that comes with it, so there's no convincing them.

[Oldenfranck]

Wow

[Shrillland]

And if this holds in 2020 with higher turnout still, the GOP will face an even bigger blow. The ones like Steve King who barely survived won't do so.

[Thermodolia]

So apparently Kemp had no evidence when he accused the democrats of hacking. He might have inadvertently set himself up for a lawsuit and possible criminal charges.

[Thermodolia]

And if this holds in 2020 with higher turnout still, the GOP will face an even bigger blow. The ones like Steve King who barely survived won't do so.

My representative barely won re-election. He won by only 400 votes. He’s probably going to be toast in 2020. Nearly half the district thinks he needs to go.

I don’t know why the Georgia Republican Party doesn’t tell him to retire and run someone new

[Thermodolia]

Beacause the capital region is too large to be placed into a district with a rural county. It would not be fair to them. Republicans did that to Austin and split it over multiple districts and therefore only a small part of the city is represented by a a democrat

Keep in mind, Lumen, Tel and Freezic's problem is with democracy itself, not any particular foible that comes with it, so there's no convincing them.

Well I think Tel would be fine with something like MMP. However because our democracy is so shit that’s never going to happen anytime soon

[Duhon]

And if this holds in 2020 with higher turnout still, the GOP will face an even bigger blow. The ones like Steve King who barely survived won't do so.

My representative barely won re-election. He won by only 400 votes. He’s probably going to be toast in 2020. Nearly half the district thinks he needs to go.

I don’t know why the Georgia Republican Party doesn’t tell him to retire and run someone new

Maybe he's replaced every Georgia Republican in power with yes men, in addition to having all the say in how each branch of state government functions, not to mention who gets to vote and how each vote is cast.

I won't be surprised if he did -- that reminds me of home in a way...

[Oldenfranck]

And if this holds in 2020 with higher turnout still, the GOP will face an even bigger blow. The ones like Steve King who barely survived won't do so.

My representative barely won re-election. He won by only 400 votes. He’s probably going to be toast in 2020. Nearly half the district thinks he needs to go.

I don’t know why the Georgia Republican Party doesn’t tell him to retire and run someone new

You are GA 7th then. I believe Stacey Abrams actually narrowly carried GA 7th in the gov race, but Bordeaux was a sh!tty candidate so Woodall survived. Kim would have won.

[Thermodolia]

My representative barely won re-election. He won by only 400 votes. He’s probably going to be toast in 2020. Nearly half the district thinks he needs to go.

I don’t know why the Georgia Republican Party doesn’t tell him to retire and run someone new

You are GA 7th then. I believe Stacey Abrams actually narrowly carried GA 7th in the gov race, but Bordeaux was a sh!tty candidate so Woodall survived. Kim would have won.

Woodall has the personality of a wet rag so ya have to be pretty crap to lose to him.

And Abrams did narrowly win the district. The only reason why is because of Gwinnett county where the majority of district is happens to be going very blue

[Thermodolia]

My representative barely won re-election. He won by only 400 votes. He’s probably going to be toast in 2020. Nearly half the district thinks he needs to go.

I don’t know why the Georgia Republican Party doesn’t tell him to retire and run someone new

Maybe he's replaced every Georgia Republican in power with yes men, in addition to having all the say in how each branch of state government functions, not to mention who gets to vote and how each vote is cast.

I won't be surprised if he did -- that reminds me of home in a way...

What are you talking about?

[Shrillland]

Keep in mind, Lumen, Tel and Freezic's problem is with democracy itself, not any particular foible that comes with it, so there's no convincing them.

Well I think Tel would be fine with something like MMP. However because our democracy is so shit that’s never going to happen anytime soon

Worse still, this isn't something that can be done state-by-state since we need to change the numbers in the House to make MMP feasible. The house would have to double in size, so we would have to convince the House to double the numbers at the same time that the states change the makeup.

[Duhon]

Maybe he's replaced every Georgia Republican in power with yes men, in addition to having all the say in how each branch of state government functions, not to mention who gets to vote and how each vote is cast.

I won't be surprised if he did -- that reminds me of home in a way...

What are you talking about?

Good question.

I was talking about Kemp but it appears you weren't.

[Thermodolia]

Well I think Tel would be fine with something like MMP. However because our democracy is so shit that’s never going to happen anytime soon

Worse still, this isn't something that can be done state-by-state since we need to change the numbers in the House to make MMP feasible. The house would have to double in size, so we would have to convince the House to double the numbers at the same time that the states change the makeup.

We could go the opposite route and lower the numbers of representatives per state. That would allow us to double the numbers of representatives while staying within the stupid restriction

[Oldenfranck]

You are GA 7th then. I believe Stacey Abrams actually narrowly carried GA 7th in the gov race, but Bordeaux was a sh!tty candidate so Woodall survived. Kim would have won.

Woodall has the personality of a wet rag so ya have to be pretty crap to lose to him.

And Abrams did narrowly win the district. The only reason why is because of Gwinnett county where the majority of district is happens to be going very blue

Forsyth forced it under though, those are mostly white flight exurbs I think?

[Thermodolia]

Woodall has the personality of a wet rag so ya have to be pretty crap to lose to him.

And Abrams did narrowly win the district. The only reason why is because of Gwinnett county where the majority of district is happens to be going very blue

Forsyth forced it under though, those are mostly white flight exurbs I think?

You’d be right. Though south Forsyth is less white than it was 10 years ago due to the influx of South Asians. Which has caused several white racist assholes to move further north.

Forsyth has always been a shitty county. Being black, gay, or worse black and gay is bad news in FoCo.

[Telconi]

Beacause the capital region is too large to be placed into a district with a rural county. It would not be fair to them. Republicans did that to Austin and split it over multiple districts and therefore only a small part of the city is represented by a a democrat

Keep in mind, Lumen, Tel and Freezic's problem is with democracy itself, not any particular foible that comes with it, so there's no convincing them.

Please don't spread misinformation, it's rude.

[Oldenfranck]

Forsyth forced it under though, those are mostly white flight exurbs I think?

You’d be right. Though south Forsyth is less white than it was 10 years ago due to the influx of South Asians. Which has caused several white racist assholes to move further north.

Forsyth has always been a shitty county. Being black, gay, or worse black and gay is bad news in FoCo.

Georgia in general, besides the hipster parts of Atlanta just seems to be a bad place to be gay. Even a lot of the black areas are somewhat socially conservative on several issues, including lgbt stuff.

[Shrillland]

Keep in mind, Lumen, Tel and Freezic's problem is with democracy itself, not any particular foible that comes with it, so there's no convincing them.

Please don't spread misinformation, it's rude.

Well, you've said you've no problem with a junta if it means undoing certain policies, I thought. If not, my apologies.

[Kowani]

Keep in mind, Lumen, Tel and Freezic's problem is with democracy itself, not any particular foible that comes with it, so there's no convincing them.

Please don't spread misinformation, it's rude.

Your problem with democracy is that it allows the majority to have the larger say, and the views of the majority are contrary to your own. Is that better?

[Telconi]

Please don't spread misinformation, it's rude.

Your problem with democracy is that it allows the majority to have the larger say, and the views of the majority are contrary to your own. Is that better?

I mean, if you want to make it meaninglessly vague..

[Thermodolia]

You’d be right. Though south Forsyth is less white than it was 10 years ago due to the influx of South Asians. Which has caused several white racist assholes to move further north.

Forsyth has always been a shitty county. Being black, gay, or worse black and gay is bad news in FoCo.

Georgia in general, besides the hipster parts of Atlanta just seems to be a bad place to be gay. Even a lot of the black areas are somewhat socially conservative on several issues, including lgbt stuff.

Actually not really. Gwinnett county, the metro counties, sans FoCo, several small towns in north and South Georgia don’t give a shit about who you sleep with. Actually a majority of Georgians think same sex marriage is fine.

It’s just that we are slow to change our laws.

[Oldenfranck]

Georgia in general, besides the hipster parts of Atlanta just seems to be a bad place to be gay. Even a lot of the black areas are somewhat socially conservative on several issues, including lgbt stuff.

Actually not really. Gwinnett county, the metro counties, sans FoCo, several small towns in north and South Georgia don’t give a shit about who you sleep with. Actually a majority of Georgians think same sex marriage is fine.

It’s just that we are slow to change our laws.

What's up with the rural GA counties that went Clinton to Kemp? Was it just low black turnout or something?