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Postby Corrian » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:42 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:So what you're saying is you dont need 218, you just need a majority of the vote? Ok. So no problem.


The problem is getting to that majority without giving away the store. Some of the people opposing her are from safe districts so their pledge to not vote for her makes no sense.

It makes total sense. It's called wanting change. Not hard to grasp.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:26 pm

Corrian wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
The problem is getting to that majority without giving away the store. Some of the people opposing her are from safe districts so their pledge to not vote for her makes no sense.

It makes total sense. It's called wanting change. Not hard to grasp.


But why would you want anyone besides God-Empress Pelosi? :p
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I wasn't aware Lee had broken from the party line on gun control. Was this recent?


Tel is super fucking on board now.

Eh. We all get mixed-up with other people sometimes. I didn’t know who she was myself.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:26 am

Apparently OC is already violating house ethics by threatening to subpoena Trump Jr in retaliation to a tweet.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:43 am

Tarsonis wrote:Apparently OC is already violating house ethics by threatening to subpoena Trump Jr in retaliation to a tweet.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

She's off to a good start and she's not even in office yet.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:48 am

Corrian wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Apparently OC is already violating house ethics by threatening to subpoena Trump Jr in retaliation to a tweet.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

She's off to a good start and she's not even in office yet.


Well, abusing authority to crush your opposition is what Socialists do so, at least she’s consistent...
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Postby Telconi » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:50 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Corrian wrote:She's off to a good start and she's not even in office yet.


Well, abusing authority to crush your opposition is what Socialists do so, at least she’s consistent...


Well... you're not wrong...
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:51 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Corrian wrote:She's off to a good start and she's not even in office yet.


Well, abusing authority to crush your opposition is what Socialists do so, at least she’s consistent...


donnie is a socialist????
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Postby Telconi » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:52 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Well, abusing authority to crush your opposition is what Socialists do so, at least she’s consistent...


donnie is a socialist????


Odd conclusion...
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Postby Mardla » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:52 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Well, abusing authority to crush your opposition is what Socialists do so, at least she’s consistent...


donnie is a socialist????

Yes, but also a nationalist.
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:57 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Well, abusing authority to crush your opposition is what Socialists do so, at least she’s consistent...


donnie is a socialist????

We're not talking about Donnie so how about not unnecessarily bringing him up and doing what Trump supporters love to do? Thanks.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:57 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Well, abusing authority to crush your opposition is what Socialists do so, at least she’s consistent...


donnie is a socialist????


And when has Donnie abused his power to investigate his political opponents and have them arrested?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:59 am

Corrian wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
donnie is a socialist????

We're not talking about Donnie so how about not unnecessarily bringing him up and doing what Trump supporters love to do? Thanks.


Are you a mod?

"abusing authority to crush your opposition is what Socialists do so"

This statement.....it's not limited to socialists.....
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Postby Telconi » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:01 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Corrian wrote:We're not talking about Donnie so how about not unnecessarily bringing him up and doing what Trump supporters love to do? Thanks.


Are you a mod?

"abusing authority to crush your opposition is what Socialists do so"

This statement.....it's not limited to socialists.....


Lots of people do that, are we to list everyone who abuses power?
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:04 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Corrian wrote:We're not talking about Donnie so how about not unnecessarily bringing him up and doing what Trump supporters love to do? Thanks.


Are you a mod?

"abusing authority to crush your opposition is what Socialists do so"

This statement.....it's not limited to socialists.....

Pretty sure nowhere they were saying "Socialists are the only ones who crush opposition", so your post is still pointless and reeks of "But Trump".
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Postby Telconi » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:06 am

Corrian wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Are you a mod?

"abusing authority to crush your opposition is what Socialists do so"

This statement.....it's not limited to socialists.....

Pretty sure nowhere they were saying "Socialists are the only ones who crush opposition", so your post is still pointless and reeks of "But Trump".


Me: "I don't like donuts"
Black Forrest: "But fat ol' Donnie likes donuts!"
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:11 am

Telconi wrote:
Corrian wrote:Pretty sure nowhere they were saying "Socialists are the only ones who crush opposition", so your post is still pointless and reeks of "But Trump".


Me: "I don't like donuts"
Black Forrest: "But fat ol' Donnie likes donuts!"

Not liking donuts?! Heresy!
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:14 am

Tarsonis wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
donnie is a socialist????


And when has Donnie abused his power to investigate his political opponents and have them arrested?

Oh right, that bit about Donnie trying to have Hillary and Comey prosecuted was fiction.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:16 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
And when has Donnie abused his power to investigate his political opponents and have them arrested?

Oh right, that bit about Donnie trying to have Hillary and Comey prosecuted was fiction.



And charges were filed when? (Hillary’s investigation preceded Trump’s office....not that facts matter to you)
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:20 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
And when has Donnie abused his power to investigate his political opponents and have them arrested?

Oh right, that bit about Donnie trying to have Hillary and Comey prosecuted was fiction.

That part of Donnie not having been the topic of discussion and this topic is unnecessary and unrelated.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:21 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Well, abusing authority to crush your opposition is what Socialists do so, at least she’s consistent...


donnie is a socialist????

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:01 pm

Corrian wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Are you a mod?

"abusing authority to crush your opposition is what Socialists do so"

This statement.....it's not limited to socialists.....

Pretty sure nowhere they were saying "Socialists are the only ones who crush opposition", so your post is still pointless and reeks of "But Trump".


The statement about socialists is pretty well pointless. "is what Socialists do" reeks of a sweeping generalization.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:04 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
donnie is a socialist????


And when has Donnie abused his power to investigate his political opponents and have them arrested?


The fact donnie hasn't been allowed isn't damning. Our system prevents him and at the moment there are people who still defend the system.

Remember donnie wanted Sessions to investigate the anonymous author? Comey? Hillary?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:04 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
donnie is a socialist????

Da comrade tovarisch


;)
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:21 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And if the House cannot decide on a speaker because no one can get to 218? Oh well?

Then name someone. I can't think of anyone better at this critical juncture

Someone will have a majority. Is it required they have a 218 vote to win or are you assuming only 2 individuals running?

You have to get to 218. Though members who vote present will lower the amount needed
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