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Postby The Niceties of Normal Moral Constraints » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:38 pm

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Valgora wrote:But does it fall under the standards of a "Blue Wave" prior to the elections, or are we applying a standard based in retrospect?

Because if we go with the standards of what a "Blue Wave" would be prior to the election - the Democrats still did good, but they didn't do well enough for it to be a "Blue Wave".


How are you defining blue wave?


I'm going with "The place that spawned Nixon and went more than 70% for Reagan looked at two years of Trump and tapped the fuck out."

EDIT: Actually, in 2016, the place that spawned Nixon went to a Democrat (Clinton) for the first time since Roosevelt. So, it actually tapped the fuck out before Trump. Now, it's sitting in the corner covered in blood desperately begging coach not to send it back in...
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Postby Valgora » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:39 pm

Ism wrote:
Valgora wrote:But does it fall under the standards of a "Blue Wave" prior to the elections, or are we applying a standard based in retrospect?

Because if we go with the standards of what a "Blue Wave" would be prior to the election - the Democrats still did good, but they didn't do well enough for it to be a "Blue Wave".


How are you defining blue wave?


Massive win in the House plus a large amount of wins at a state level. Plus, picking up a (incredibly small) majority in the Senate.
I feel like that's what many thought of when they thought of a "Blue Wave" before the election.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:39 pm

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Valgora wrote:But does it fall under the standards of a "Blue Wave" prior to the elections, or are we applying a standard based in retrospect?

Because if we go with the standards of what a "Blue Wave" would be prior to the election - the Democrats still did good, but they didn't do well enough for it to be a "Blue Wave".


How are you defining blue wave?


Whatever definition allows the GOP to claim it didn't happen and they still won apparently.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:39 pm

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Corrian wrote:They had one of the biggest House gains in history.

But does it fall under the standards of a "Blue Wave" prior to the elections, or are we applying a standard based in retrospect?

Because if we go with the standards of what a "Blue Wave" would be prior to the election - the Democrats still did good, but they didn't do well enough for it to be a "Blue Wave".


"It wasn't a wave because it didn't live up to the hype"

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Postby Ism » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:48 pm

Valgora wrote:
Ism wrote:
How are you defining blue wave?


Massive win in the House plus a large amount of wins at a state level. Plus, picking up a (incredibly small) majority in the Senate.
I feel like that's what many thought of when they thought of a "Blue Wave" before the election.


Senate is not sensible, given the map. A majority, however slim, would be more of a Blue Tsunami, all other things unchanged.

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Postby Valgora » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:51 pm

Ism wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Massive win in the House plus a large amount of wins at a state level. Plus, picking up a (incredibly small) majority in the Senate.
I feel like that's what many thought of when they thought of a "Blue Wave" before the election.


Senate is not sensible, given the map. A majority, however slim, would be more of a Blue Tsunami, all other things unchanged.

Then I'd argue that many people's thoughts of the "Blue Wave" were more akin to what you're saying would be a "Blue Tsunami".
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Postby Corrian » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:53 pm

Valgora wrote:
Ism wrote:
How are you defining blue wave?


Massive win in the House plus a large amount of wins at a state level. Plus, picking up a (incredibly small) majority in the Senate.
I feel like that's what many thought of when they thought of a "Blue Wave" before the election.

That would have been a blue tsunami if we won all of that with the map we had.
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Postby Corrian » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:54 pm

And holy shit, I remember Democrats eyeing like 10 potential pickups in California and even with only 6 they STILL have 44 of 53 House seats in California? Jesus Christ.
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Postby Salandriagado » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:59 pm

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Are you seriously supporting corruption as long as it benefits you?


Most folks do...


You're projecting again.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:07 pm

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Telconi wrote:
Most folks do...


You're projecting again.


"Projecting" implies I'm wrong.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:11 pm

Telconi wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
You're projecting again.


"Projecting" implies I'm wrong.

Projecting implies you feel bad about doing it yourself so you accuse others of doing it as well so you can tell yourself it's not just you. Following Trump's example in other words. :^]
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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:12 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
"Projecting" implies I'm wrong.

Projecting implies you feel bad about doing it yourself so you accuse others of doing it as well so you can tell yourself it's not just you. Following Trump's example in other words. :^]


Why would I feel bad?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:13 pm

Telconi wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Projecting implies you feel bad about doing it yourself so you accuse others of doing it as well so you can tell yourself it's not just you. Following Trump's example in other words. :^]


Why would I feel bad?

You're right. Feeling bad requires conscience.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:14 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Why would I feel bad?

You're right. Feeling bad requires conscience.


How would you know?
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Postby Corrian » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:22 pm

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Postby Kaggeceria » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:25 pm

Gillum has conceded.

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Postby The Niceties of Normal Moral Constraints » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:32 pm



It sort of depends on what "counts" means, since the Republicans still have a supermajority in the Kentucky House.

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Postby Corrian » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:32 pm

The Niceties of Normal Moral Constraints wrote:


It sort of depends on what "counts" means, since the Republicans still have a supermajority in the Kentucky House.

I mean it's still something.
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Postby The Niceties of Normal Moral Constraints » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:35 pm

Corrian wrote:
The Niceties of Normal Moral Constraints wrote:
It sort of depends on what "counts" means, since the Republicans still have a supermajority in the Kentucky House.

I mean it's still something.


Don't mean to be a downer, or anything. But, I mean, I role double sixes playing backgammon somewhere around 1 in 36 turns, but it almost never decides the result of the game.

EDIT: I'm not saying don't vote, btw. I sure as fuck voted. It's just that the probability of any one vote being the sole decider is so fantastically tiny that it's probably not a solid basis for any real lesson or principle.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:39 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:Gillum has conceded.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


The level of amusement you find in this is very concerning.

Have you considered taking a break from politics for a while?
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Postby The South Falls » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:40 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Gillum has conceded.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


The level of amusement you find in this is very concerning.

Have you considered taking a break from politics for a while?

I mean, cone on. In this environment, what the fuck is restraint.
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Postby Ngelmish » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:42 pm

Telconi wrote:
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You're projecting again.


"Projecting" implies I'm wrong.


Yes, well, the next time you claim not to be hypocritical/adhere to a non hypocritical political standard we'll know it's a lie and be able to move past it without wasting a lot of time.

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Postby Valgora » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:43 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:Gillum has conceded.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

K

A Democratic politician from Florida conceded.

In the words of Metallica: SO FUCKING WHAT
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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:50 pm

Ngelmish wrote:
Telconi wrote:
"Projecting" implies I'm wrong.


Yes, well, the next time you claim not to be hypocritical/adhere to a non hypocritical political standard we'll know it's a lie and be able to move past it without wasting a lot of time.


I don't think you know what that word means...
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:51 pm

Valgora wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Gillum has conceded.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

K

A Democratic politician from Florida conceded.

In the words of Metallica: SO FUCKING WHAT

Got to own the libs with it.
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