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Postby Heloin » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:10 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Heloin wrote:Money? Blood Diamonds? Lucky bastards, all I get is coupons to Steak & Shake.

at least you can USE them

The people at Duane Reade give you a really weird look when you try to hand them a fistful of diamonds to pay for shampoo

I'll trade you all these coupons for the diamonds then. People are more willing to buy Blood Diamonds from people sounding South African if films have taught me anything.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:11 pm

So how about that Speaker Pelosi, eh?

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:12 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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The zionist terroristic antifa call each other that, I am opposed.


OK yeah I think I have a bingo now.


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Hope the caravan throws some stones, would make for good practice for our National Guardsmen.
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Postby Luminesa » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:13 pm

Corrian wrote:
Luminesa wrote:> Walker’s election was rigged.
> “Haha you’re just salty!”
> Kemp is winning.
> “Investigation!”

If only you knew the lack of self-awareness in this set of posts.

Kemp may have legitimately rigged things though. He did a lot of shitty things beforehand.

That’s fair, I wasn’t aware of that.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:13 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:So how about that Speaker Pelosi, eh?


Has she been voted up as Speaker?
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Postby Post War America » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:13 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:So how about that Speaker Pelosi, eh?


Damn, I was hoping they'd pull their heads out of their asses, but I guess not.
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Postby Heloin » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:13 pm

Free State America wrote:Hope the caravan throws some stones, would make for good practice for our National Guardsmen.

There is another thread about that topic. You may want to go over there and tone down the rhetoric just a bit.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:14 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:So how about that Speaker Pelosi, eh?


Has she been voted up as Speaker?


Not officially I don't think but it's pretty much set in stone afaik

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:15 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Has she been voted up as Speaker?


Not officially I don't think but it's pretty much set in stone afaik


Good old Coronation Pelosi strikes again.
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Postby Astrolinium » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:15 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:So how about that Speaker Pelosi, eh?


Has she been voted up as Speaker?


She undoubtedly will be.
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Postby Free State America » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:16 pm

Heloin wrote:
Free State America wrote:Hope the caravan throws some stones, would make for good practice for our National Guardsmen.

There is another thread about that topic. You may want to go over there and tone down the rhetoric just a bit.


The caravan stopped so the Dems would not lose too much in the Midterm. They gave them the order to halt to make think people Trump would not stand for it. But it does. They will be moving soon to the border. Very dangerous for America. Democrats can't be trusted, think of Killarys mails! Sane Americans vote Republicans, but the Dems keep importing people to vore Democratic. Which is fraud. The invasion and replacement of Americans must be stopped.
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Postby Ngelmish » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:16 pm

Telconi wrote:
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It's a point only if you think that a tangential digression into moral condemnation is more compelling than engaging on one's own policy preferences on their merits. Note that Lumen does engage on those merits, albeit simplistically. Note that Telconi takes simplistic moral potshots and declines to engage on the merits when asked.

It's not much of a point.


Policies do not have merit, if divorced from morality.


Sure. If you ever have an argument for the policies you favor beyond "muh values" then, you know, you will have discovered how to engage on the merits. Declaring simply that you have values isn't defense of them, however.

It does free you up to spend all of your rhetorical energy on insubstantial potshots though.

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Postby Great Franconia and Verana » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:16 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Has she been voted up as Speaker?


She undoubtedly will be.

Agreed. The Progressive/ Anti-establishment wings of the party do not have a natural candidate to succeed her.
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Postby Seangoli » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:19 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Corrian wrote:Kemp may have legitimately rigged things though. He did a lot of shitty things beforehand.

That’s fair, I wasn’t aware of that.


He also flat-out stated that he didn't want more minorities voting or registered, as it would be nad for future elections in the state for Republicans. Not even under the premise of "illegals voting", but rather flat out ezpressed a desire to suppress voting blocks not favorable to Republicans. Its no wonder that he threw out almost 1,000,000 voter registration applications (perhaps spuriously), intentenionally reduced polling places to a ridiculous degree in minority counties among other such nonsense. His bullshit goes well beyond the pale, even if you fully support strong ID laws. He tailored his policies rather perfectly to suppress voting blocks that were against him.

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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:19 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Has she been voted up as Speaker?


Not officially I don't think but it's pretty much set in stone afaik

I wouldn't be so confident- I think she'll probably pull it out, and I kinda hope she does since who the fuck else is gonna take over, but a lot of the incoming progressive types (and also centrists from redder districts) are gonna be coming for her throat
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:19 pm

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:
She undoubtedly will be.

Agreed. The Progressive/ Anti-establishment wings of the party do not have a natural candidate to succeed her.


Put a Blue Dog in charge plz :p

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Postby Heloin » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:20 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:So how about that Speaker Pelosi, eh?

Eh, I got nothing really against her. Good, I guess.

Free State America wrote:
Heloin wrote:There is another thread about that topic. You may want to go over there and tone down the rhetoric just a bit.


The caravan stopped so the Dems would not lose too much in the Midterm. They gave them the order to halt to make think people Trump would not stand for it. But it does. They will be moving soon to the border. Very dangerous for America. Democrats can't be trusted, think of Killarys mails! Sane Americans vote Republicans, but the Dems keep importing people to vore Democratic. Which is fraud. The invasion and replacement of Americans must be stopped.

Or just keeping steaming along with that rhetoric, that's an option to I guess.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:20 pm

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:
She undoubtedly will be.

Agreed. The Progressive/ Anti-establishment wings of the party do not have a natural candidate to succeed her.


Alas, it is true. Pelosi has so stacked the leadership with her types that none can stand a significant challenge.
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Postby Post War America » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:21 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:Agreed. The Progressive/ Anti-establishment wings of the party do not have a natural candidate to succeed her.


Put a Blue Dog in charge plz :p


There aren't any.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:21 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Not officially I don't think but it's pretty much set in stone afaik

I wouldn't be so confident- I think she'll probably pull it out, and I kinda hope she does since who the fuck else is gonna take over, but a lot of the incoming progressive types (and also centrists from redder districts) are gonna be coming for her throat


Oh I have no doubt they're going to be gunning for Pelosi but I just don't think the numbers are there to truly do anything. It's just gonna piss them off which is probably gonna bleed over to the primaries when they start which is gonna be FUN!

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:22 pm

Post War America wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Put a Blue Dog in charge plz :p


There aren't any.


They have 18 seats!

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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:23 pm

Heloin wrote:
Senkaku wrote:at least you can USE them

The people at Duane Reade give you a really weird look when you try to hand them a fistful of diamonds to pay for shampoo

I'll trade you all these coupons for the diamonds then. People are more willing to buy Blood Diamonds from people sounding South African if films have taught me anything.

hmm I'll consider this

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:Agreed. The Progressive/ Anti-establishment wings of the party do not have a natural candidate to succeed her.


Put a Blue Dog in charge plz :p

I'm afraid the blue dog has gone the way of the thylacine
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:23 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:Agreed. The Progressive/ Anti-establishment wings of the party do not have a natural candidate to succeed her.


Put a Blue Dog in charge plz :p


Plot twist it's Beto O'Rourke through the power of betomania, some how.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:23 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I wouldn't be so confident- I think she'll probably pull it out, and I kinda hope she does since who the fuck else is gonna take over, but a lot of the incoming progressive types (and also centrists from redder districts) are gonna be coming for her throat


Oh I have no doubt they're going to be gunning for Pelosi but I just don't think the numbers are there to truly do anything. It's just gonna piss them off which is probably gonna bleed over to the primaries when they start which is gonna be FUN!


Depends on how the economy fares in late 2019/20. If the tariffs start bearing unpleasant fruit, we could see further gains, and a lot of the survivors of last night might not survive 2020.
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