US Midterm Elections Megathread III: Hitting The Wall

[Napkiraly]

The election of Cruz and Kemp has already brought out the "it's all rigged!" comments. I can easily make a similar claim involving Walker's loss.

Walker lost because Madison and Milwaukee decided they had enough of his bullshit.

>45000 unaccounted for votes found at the last second with 99% reporting

If Walker had won under similar circumstances I know you'd be all up in arms claiming corruption as would many others lmao.

[San Lumen]

Kemp literally purged voter rolls, tho.

Which, while fucky, isn’t illegal. Under Georgia law if you don’t vote your registration can be purged.

it ought to be

[Blackledge]

And I said it because it think its partly true. You dont have a candidate leading in every poll to just lose.

Or the pollsters got it wrong. You gotta think about the questions they are asking and how they are asking it. It could be possible that people who said they would vote for Gillum didn’t show up or that people who said they’d vote for Gillum actually wanted to vote for desantis but where worried about saying that

Anything poll-related makes me think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

[Petrasylvania]

Just stopped by Fox news, Trump supporters are calling on Trump to veto anything the House does and use executive orders to bypass them. Lost power, act like a dictator.

Remember when the Republicans took back the House under Clinton and he vetoed and executive ordered the fuck out of them? Yeah...

[Thermodolia]

Which, while fucky, isn’t illegal. Under Georgia law if you don’t vote your registration can be purged.

it ought to be

It makes a good argument for people to get out and vote. If you don’t vote you’ll lose it

[Liriena]

This but unironically.

The blue wave happened. It wasn't a tsunami, which is a bummer, but it happened. I mean... y'all just lost fucking Kansas.

It was more like a kiddie pool wave. Really underwhelming.

I do think that this midterm, perhaps even more than the 2016 presidential election, shows that a lot of pollsters and forecasting wonks should just retire... and that the DNC still has no idea of how to capitalize on golden opportunities.

[San Lumen]

It was more like a kiddie pool wave. Really underwhelming.

I do think that this midterm, perhaps even more than the 2016 presidential election, shows that a lot of pollsters and forecasting wonks should just retire... and that the DNC still has no idea of how to capitalize on golden opportunities.

or too many people in rural areas will keep voting against their own interests.

[Hakons]

BLUE HAVE WOOOOOOO

This but unironically.

The blue wave happened. It wasn't a tsunami, which is a bummer, but it happened. I mean... y'all just lost fucking Kansas.

Depends on what you mean by a wave. Democrats got around 30 house seats, which was enough for a majority, but not a very substantial one. Republicans won 60 seats in 2010. Democrats did do very well in Governor races. Kansas was obviously a surprise, but Wisconsin hurts the most. Kansas was largely an anomaly, I don't think it alone suggests a "wave." Does a wave include losing seats in the senate?

Back to Wisconsin. Famous Republican governor Scott Walker, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, and former RNC chairman Reince Priebus are now out of/leaving their positions. The era of the outsized Wisconsin GOP is over.

[Liriena]

Just stopped by Fox news, Trump supporters are calling on Trump to veto anything the House does and use executive orders to bypass them. Lost power, act like a dictator.

Obama became a pretty big fan of the old executive orders, didn't he?

IIRC, didn't Obama actually issue fewer executive orders than his predecessors?

Either way, though... fuck Obama. What else have you got to deflect with?

[Blackledge]

it ought to be

It makes a good argument for people to get out and vote. If you don’t vote you’ll lose it

Unpopular opinion but I kind of agree with that.

[Thermodolia]

Or the pollsters got it wrong. You gotta think about the questions they are asking and how they are asking it. It could be possible that people who said they would vote for Gillum didn’t show up or that people who said they’d vote for Gillum actually wanted to vote for desantis but where worried about saying that

Anything poll-related makes me think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

Spot on

[Thermodolia]

It was more like a kiddie pool wave. Really underwhelming.

I do think that this midterm, perhaps even more than the 2016 presidential election, shows that a lot of pollsters and forecasting wonks should just retire... and that the DNC still has no idea of how to capitalize on golden opportunities.

*Grumbles about shitty election systems*

[Liriena]

I do think that this midterm, perhaps even more than the 2016 presidential election, shows that a lot of pollsters and forecasting wonks should just retire... and that the DNC still has no idea of how to capitalize on golden opportunities.

or too many people in rural areas will keep voting against their own interests.

I think that is partially due to Democratic leadership having no idea how to create and communicate a platform that attracts enthusiasm. Individual left-wing policies are massively popular, even among Republican voters, and often win when they are put on the ballot.

[Thermodolia]

I do think that this midterm, perhaps even more than the 2016 presidential election, shows that a lot of pollsters and forecasting wonks should just retire... and that the DNC still has no idea of how to capitalize on golden opportunities.

or too many people in rural areas will keep voting against their own interests.

Don’t you mean your interests?

[Blackledge]

It was more like a kiddie pool wave. Really underwhelming.

I do think that this midterm, perhaps even more than the 2016 presidential election, shows that a lot of pollsters and forecasting wonks should just retire... and that the DNC still has no idea of how to capitalize on golden opportunities.

I've been saying that for a while. I'm really disappointed in the Dems right now. Piss-poor leadership and racially motivated in a manner that panders to Trump's strengths.

What's awful is the whole "the Emperor has no clothes" attitude so many Dems exhibit towards any criticism of the party. If you criticize decisions, tactics or individuals, they assume you're pro-Trump or pro-Republican. Rather than look at the internal problems they double-down, and the result is lackluster midterms.

[San Lumen]

I do think that this midterm, perhaps even more than the 2016 presidential election, shows that a lot of pollsters and forecasting wonks should just retire... and that the DNC still has no idea of how to capitalize on golden opportunities.

*Grumbles about shitty election systems*

We should have an election system like Canada. They do something amazing they make sure everyone who wants to vote is able too. and all elections are overseen by a independent commission.

[Napkiraly]

Here's a thought, maybe Democrats should do a better job at attracting rural voters.

[Valrifell]

So what were some of the big shocks of the night?

Beto losing. The Dems only picking up 20-something seats. The Republicans not losing more gubernatorial elections.

Am I the only one who fully expected O'Rourke to lose? I recall a lot of certainty in that outcome in this very thread.

[Thermodolia]

Obama became a pretty big fan of the old executive orders, didn't he?

IIRC, didn't Obama actually issue fewer executive orders than his predecessors?

Either way, though... fuck Obama. What else have you got to deflect with?

He did but he issued more controversial EOs. Line the one where he could drone Americans without due process

[Hakons]

Just stopped by Fox news, Trump supporters are calling on Trump to veto anything the House does and use executive orders to bypass them. Lost power, act like a dictator.

He wont need to veto much, since nothing made by a Democratic House will get pass the Republican Senate. Trump probably will start using executive orders more (much like Obama did after 2010). If you think using executive orders and vetos are examples of tyranny, you necessarily think every president is a tyrant.

[Liriena]

I do think that this midterm, perhaps even more than the 2016 presidential election, shows that a lot of pollsters and forecasting wonks should just retire... and that the DNC still has no idea of how to capitalize on golden opportunities.

*Grumbles about shitty election systems*

I mean... FPTP is an abomination unto the lord and your lack of automatic voter registration is pretty dumb.

[Blackledge]

Anything poll-related makes me think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

Spot on

I'm generally opposed to literacy tests to vote, but I believe it should be mandatory to watch "Yes, Minister" before gaining the right to vote.

[Napkiraly]

*Grumbles about shitty election systems*

We should have an election system like Canada. They do something amazing they make sure everyone who wants to vote is able too. and all elections are overseen by a independent commission.

*rubs hands in maple syrup*
Please, do continue.

[Telconi]

Since the democrats won the house, would Trump be impeached?

Pelosi is against it, apparently, so it ain't likely.

Then again, it looks like some Democratic voters are tired of Pelosi herself, so...

Not the eighty something percent of her district who voted for her evidently.

[San Lumen]

or too many people in rural areas will keep voting against their own interests.

Don’t you mean your interests?

everyone who I wanted to win won. I did vote my interests. Plus Dan Donavan who represented Staten Island in Congress was defeated by Max Rose. I must say I didn't expect that at all. I thought the Island was a lost cause. It seems I was wrong.