Trump threatens to Nullify the 14th Amendment

[Greater Miami Shores]

I too am legal, an American citizen, and served in the military
And yet I’ve been told I need to be deported for being born inconvently

Same!
#LegalButStillIllegalGang

lol yeah all those mythical illegal immigrants from central america

They aren't illegal.

islamic Muslim terrorists

Ftfy

Please I never said that you all cant tell us whatever you want to tell us on your posts, I have always stated that I will never tell any fellow nation state r what to post, what not to post and how to post it.

What I meant is we should not be told that we are 100 % wrong on our different political views on any issues and you all are right 100 %, and vice versa including this one.

I never tell any fellow nation stater that they are wrong (100%) and I am right (100%) that is wrong for me to do to any fellow nation staters on any issues including Cuba my pet issue on NS, of which I am an expert on for obvious reasons.

What are you talking about???

Just accept the other fellow nation stater s views and post your own, and leave at that like I do.

You don't do that tho, you do the same thing that every other NSGer does: debate.

But not tell them that they are 100 % wrong and I am 100 % right, thank you for your quote, my last post on this to you, I will move on.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Same!
#LegalButStillIllegalGang

They aren't illegal.

Ftfy

What are you talking about???

You don't do that tho, you do the same thing that every other NSGer does: debate.

But not tell them that they are 100 % wrong and I am 100 % right, thank you for your quote, my last post on this to you, I will move on.

If someone says that 2 + 2 = 5 they are 100% wrong, and that's final.

[Trumptonium1]

lol yeah all those mythical illegal immigrants from central america

They aren't illegal.

literally fake news

[Kubumba Tribe]

They aren't illegal.

literally fake news

No it's not. They've done nothing illegal in terms of US law as they are no where near the US.

[Valrifell]

They aren't illegal.

literally fake news

The proper means to apply for asylum - which they have said they're seeking to do - is to walk up to the point of entry and ask politely. They aren't doing anything illegally if their goal is to apply for asylum in the United States, per the law of the United States.

[Neutraligon]

literally fake news

The proper means to apply for asylum - which they have said they're seeking to do - is to walk up to the point of entry and ask politely. They aren't doing anything illegally if their goal is to apply for asylum in the United States, per the law of the United States.

Well that and...they haven't reached the US so they are absolutely not under our jurisdiction and so cannot have done anything illegal according to US law.

[Trumptonium1]

literally fake news

No it's not. They've done nothing illegal in terms of US law as they are no where near the US.

they have entered mexico illegally

literally fake news

The proper means to apply for asylum - which they have said they're seeking to do - is to walk up to the point of entry and ask politely. They aren't doing anything illegally if their goal is to apply for asylum in the United States, per the law of the United States.

and they'll be turned back at which point they'll start rioting

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

No it's not. They've done nothing illegal in terms of US law as they are no where near the US.

they have entered mexico illegally

The proper means to apply for asylum - which they have said they're seeking to do - is to walk up to the point of entry and ask politely. They aren't doing anything illegally if their goal is to apply for asylum in the United States, per the law of the United States.

and they'll be turned back at which point they'll start rioting

Which is not in violation of US law.

If they are asking for asylum at the border, it would be illegal to turn them back immediately.

[Kubumba Tribe]

No it's not. They've done nothing illegal in terms of US law as they are no where near the US.

they have entered mexico illegally

1: depends on which caravan you're talking about. The main one went by peacefully, while a smaller one forced their way through.
2: México is not the US.

[Trumptonium1]

they have entered mexico illegally



and they'll be turned back at which point they'll start rioting

Which is not in violation of US law.

If they are asking for asylum at the border, it would be illegal to turn them back immediately.

that's just an opinion

they have entered mexico illegally

1: depends on which caravan you're talking about. The main one went by peacefully, while a smaller one forced their way through.

they've entered illegally regardless of what level of force they used, mexico classifies them as such

2: México is not the US.

absolutely irrelevant, on the question of their label, they are still illegal immigrants.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Which is not in violation of US law.

If they are asking for asylum at the border, it would be illegal to turn them back immediately.

that's just an opinion

...I don't think you know what an opinion is.

[Trumptonium1]

that's just an opinion

...I don't think you know what an opinion is.

expand to something more comprehensible

[Kubumba Tribe]

they've entered illegally regardless of what level of force they used, mexico classifies them as such

Which caravan are you talking about?

absolutely irrelevant, on the question of their label, they are still illegal immigrants.

Depends on who you're talking about.

[Genivaria]

...I don't think you know what an opinion is.

expand to something more comprehensible

An opinion is something that can't be demonstrated to be true or false.
What he said is a claim or a fact, by definition not an opinion.

[Maineiacs]

That is nice and all, but... You can be wrong in matters of law. Law isn't a debate on what 'ought to be'. A legal discussion is a discussion on what is, and you can very much be wrong with that. Just because opinions should be respected does not mean that all opinions are valid, especially regarding matters that are not so much subject to opinions.

In this case, with the given jurisprudence, the Supreme Court cannot reasonably redefine what 'jurisdiction' means. Reinterpreting 'jurisdiction' to mean something that is not even close to the meaning of the word, which would be required, would be such an obvious political scheme that the Supreme Court would lose all its trust with the American people.

the supreme court is there to be activist and organically reinterpret the original meaning to account for modern values, remember? all that living document claptrap

modern values have clearly changed and 1870 meaning of belonging no longer applies

if FDR can stack the court to push his way, so can Trump

FDR couldn't pack the court; his attempt to do so failed.

[Vassenor]

Let's be honest here. This whole "build the wall, deport the illegals" spiel is just the one percent trying to convince the working poor to blame a subset of the working poor for the fact they're all poor instead of realising the reason they're all poor is due to vast income inequality and resource price inflation in combination with wage stagnation.

The existence of another poor person is not why you're poor. It's because the people who control everything refuse to increase your wages.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Let's be honest here. This whole "build the wall, deport the illegals" spiel is just the one percent trying to convince the working poor to blame a subset of the working poor for the fact they're all poor instead of realising the reason they're all poor is due to vast income inequality and resource price inflation in combination with wage stagnation.

The existence of another poor person is not why you're poor. It's because the people who control everything refuse to increase your wages.

I think President Trump is very serious about illegal immigration.

[Vassenor]

Let's be honest here. This whole "build the wall, deport the illegals" spiel is just the one percent trying to convince the working poor to blame a subset of the working poor for the fact they're all poor instead of realising the reason they're all poor is due to vast income inequality and resource price inflation in combination with wage stagnation.

The existence of another poor person is not why you're poor. It's because the people who control everything refuse to increase your wages.

I think President Trump is very serious about illegal immigration.

So basically ignoring everything I said.

[Petrasylvania]

I think President Trump is very serious about illegal immigration.

So basically ignoring everything I said.

It's funny he has faith in the same con artist who bitched about Obama undermining the Cuban Embargo while having deals in Cuba during the Embargo's active period.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Let's be honest here. This whole "build the wall, deport the illegals" spiel is just the one percent trying to convince the working poor to blame a subset of the working poor for the fact they're all poor instead of realising the reason they're all poor is due to vast income inequality and resource price inflation in combination with wage stagnation.

The existence of another poor person is not why you're poor. It's because the people who control everything refuse to increase your wages.

*Nothing to lose but their chains intensifies*

[Frievolk]

Let's be honest here. This whole "build the wall, deport the illegals" spiel is just the one percent trying to convince the working poor to blame a subset of the working poor for the fact they're all poor instead of realising the reason they're all poor is due to vast income inequality and resource price inflation in combination with wage stagnation.

The existence of another poor person is not why you're poor. It's because the people who control everything refuse to increase your wages.

I personally see it differently. The retarded xenophobia, racism, etc. that the average Poor Republican Voter suffers from is not created by a policy from the 1%ers. It's the opposite. Those asshats are bigots. They're xenophobes, racists, etc., and they're all the scum for it. The 1% just uses that hatred like they'd use any other resource.

[Trumptonium1]

they've entered illegally regardless of what level of force they used, mexico classifies them as such

Which caravan are you talking about?

absolutely irrelevant, on the question of their label, they are still illegal immigrants.

Depends on who you're talking about.

what kind of questions are these

all of them. they all entered mexico illegally and refused to apply for asylum offered to them at point of entry, and are thus illegal immigrants by definition

Let's be honest here. This whole "build the wall, deport the illegals" spiel is just the one percent trying to convince the working poor to blame a subset of the working poor for the fact they're all poor instead of realising the reason they're all poor is due to vast income inequality and resource price inflation in combination with wage stagnation.

The existence of another poor person is not why you're poor. It's because the people who control everything refuse to increase your wages.

what ignorance

expand to something more comprehensible

An opinion is something that can't be demonstrated to be true or false.
What he said is a claim or a fact, by definition not an opinion.

his claim was that it is illegal to turn back people wishing to claim asylum at point of entry - this is false. that its wrong is an opinion, not a fact.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Let's be honest here. This whole "build the wall, deport the illegals" spiel is just the one percent trying to convince the working poor to blame a subset of the working poor for the fact they're all poor instead of realising the reason they're all poor is due to vast income inequality and resource price inflation in combination with wage stagnation.

The existence of another poor person is not why you're poor. It's because the people who control everything refuse to increase your wages.

I wouldn’t not believe that

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Let's be honest here. This whole "build the wall, deport the illegals" spiel is just the one percent trying to convince the working poor to blame a subset of the working poor for the fact they're all poor instead of realising the reason they're all poor is due to vast income inequality and resource price inflation in combination with wage stagnation.

The existence of another poor person is not why you're poor. It's because the people who control everything refuse to increase your wages.

No its just useing a small problem, inflateing it to cause anger, and create a mass demand for an useless wall. All for votes from an angry republican base.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Which caravan are you talking about?

Depends on who you're talking about.

what kind of questions are these

all of them. they all entered mexico illegally and refused to apply for asylum offered to them at point of entry, and are thus illegal immigrants by definition

Yeah, that's wrong. It has been explained multiple times in this thread that most of the migrants are behaving legally.