Trump threatens to Nullify the 14th Amendment

[The Black Forrest]

I wonder how many of the "jus soli isn't used elsewhere much" types are ones who think the UN is bad?

[Napkiraly]

Most Western countries do not have jus soli or at the least have it with restrictions.

Here is a map of countries with Jus soli: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli# ... _world.svg

And you'll see that Canada and the USA are the only concretely Western countries to have jus soli without restrictions

[San Lumen]

Here is a map of countries with Jus soli: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli# ... _world.svg

And you'll see that Canada and the USA are the only concretely Western countries to have jus soli without restrictions

Most of Central and South America has it too.

[Valgora]

I wonder how many of the "jus soli isn't used elsewhere much" types are ones who think the UN is bad?

The only good think the UN really did was the Declaration of Human Rights.

Of course, I don't use the argument of "jus soli ain't used elsewhere much".

[Conserative Morality]

It is not Western tradition though... That is a warped view of our tradition promoted by subversives.

Ius Soli dates back to Rome, my anti-semitic friend.

[Napkiraly]

And you'll see that Canada and the USA are the only concretely Western countries to have jus soli without restrictions

Most of Central and South America has it too.

Whether or not they are to be considered Western countries is heavily debated, even within Latin America.

[Valgora]

Most of Central and South America has it too.

Whether or not they are to be considered Western countries is heavily debated, even within Latin America.

Although, they are in the Western Hemisphere

[The Black Forrest]

Might be heading into a tangent over the "jus soli" talk and the what are really western countries talk......

[Napkiraly]

Whether or not they are to be considered Western countries is heavily debated, even within Latin America.

Although, they are in the Western Hemisphere

Which doesn't really matter as to whether or not they are part of Western civilization.

[Sokolovra]

It is not Western tradition though... That is a warped view of our tradition promoted by subversives.

Ius Soli dates back to Rome, my anti-semitic friend.

Pogroms are a western tradition. But we don't do them anymore, my Shabbos goy?

[Valgora]

Although, they are in the Western Hemisphere

Which doesn't really matter as to whether or not they are part of Western civilization.

Does that just make them part of the... Southern Civilization?

[San Lumen]

Ius Soli dates back to Rome, my anti-semitic friend.

Pogroms are a western tradition. But we don't do them anymore, my Shabbos goy?

What to pogroms have to do with this?

[Vassenor]

Ius Soli dates back to Rome, my anti-semitic friend.

Pogroms are a western tradition. But we don't do them anymore, my Shabbos goy?

So how does that give Trump the power to just rip bits out of the Constitution on a whim?

[Valgora]

Ius Soli dates back to Rome, my anti-semitic friend.

Pogroms are a western tradition. But we don't do them anymore, my Shabbos goy?

Pogroms are particularly about massacring the Jews in Russia and Eastern Europe.

[Ifreann]

it stays on because its enshrined into the constitution. it was passed to overturn the Deed Scott decision which held that Persons of African descent cannot be, nor were ever intended to be, citizens under the U.S. Constitution.

And millions of us, and in my case not sure, think that part had to do with African American slaves, not that it grants Birth Right Citizenship to kids of illegal persons, and our right to think so should be respected and not told we are 100 % wrong and it is just our point of view, this issue needs to go directly to the US Supreme Court for a direct yes or no vote decision.

You are wrong and no right you enjoy protects you from being told so. You are allowed to be wrong. I am allowed to tell you that you are wrong.

The Supreme Court decided in 1898 that "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means "expected to obey the laws thereof".

Please read my post above if you have not read it, same for other fellow nation stater s.

I would support 100 % declaring the kids of illegal parents legal if the practice of granting birth right citizenship to future kids of illegal persons is ended by the US Supreme Court, which it has the power to do both, and even President Trump has stated his support of it in the past.

The Supreme Court cannot strip people of their birthright citizenship and grant them permanent residence as a compromise. It's a fucking court, it rules based on the law.

[Napkiraly]

Which doesn't really matter as to whether or not they are part of Western civilization.

Does that just make them part of the... Southern Civilization?

No. Some argue that it's a scion of Western civilization but a unique one in its own right and you'll find a lot of Latin Americans that hold that view. Western civilization is not linked to whether or not the country lies in the Western hemisphere or else most of the West itself would be booted out of the club considering most of Central and West Europe is in the Eastern Hemisphere, not to mention the likes of Australia and New Zealand.

[Napkiraly]

Might be heading into a tangent over the "jus soli" talk and the what are really western countries talk......

Relevant to a discussion where arguments in support of continuing jus soli laws are on the basis of it being a Western tradition.

[The Black Forrest]

Might be heading into a tangent over the "jus soli" talk and the what are really western countries talk......

Relevant to a discussion where arguments in support of continuing jus soli laws are on the basis of it being a Western tradition.

Considering it's a Constitutional amendment; such talk is waste of time. Well maybe for the Constitutional Convention which will never happen because donnie shit spews......

[Liriena]

Honestly, I'm less concerned by the fact that he's promising his base that he's gonna do something illegal, than I am about the fact that it's a cruel ploy that would lead to at least thousands of stateless innocent children who rabid smooth-brained cunts like him could freely terrorize and abuse.

Guillotines when?

[The Black Forrest]

Honestly, I'm less concerned by the fact that he's promising his base that he's gonna do something illegal, than I am about the fact that it's a cruel ploy that would lead to at least thousands of stateless innocent children who rabid smooth-brained cunts like him could freely terrorize and abuse.

Guillotines when?

You sound like a liberal elitist! Start building the Guillotines boys!

[Valgora]

Honestly, I'm less concerned by the fact that he's promising his base that he's gonna do something illegal, than I am about the fact that it's a cruel ploy that would lead to at least thousands of stateless innocent children who rabid smooth-brained cunts like him could freely terrorize and abuse.

Guillotines when?

We don't use Guillotines anymore.
It's now a cannon in which to shoot all the Democratic and Republican politicians into the Sun.

[Conserative Morality]

Honestly, I'm less concerned by the fact that he's promising his base that he's gonna do something illegal, than I am about the fact that it's a cruel ploy that would lead to at least thousands of stateless innocent children who rabid smooth-brained cunts like him could freely terrorize and abuse.

Guillotines when?

Legality is the tool with which we hope to stop that.

[Liriena]

Honestly, I'm less concerned by the fact that he's promising his base that he's gonna do something illegal, than I am about the fact that it's a cruel ploy that would lead to at least thousands of stateless innocent children who rabid smooth-brained cunts like him could freely terrorize and abuse.

Guillotines when?

You sound like a liberal elitist! Start building the Guillotines boys!

I shall go willingly! Robespierre did nothing wrong!

[Petrolheadia]

It is not Western tradition though... That is a warped view of our tradition promoted by subversives.

Ius Soli dates back to Rome, my anti-semitic friend.

Have you just linked Jews to subversiveness?

That's kinda antisemitic.

[Conserative Morality]

Ius Soli dates back to Rome, my anti-semitic friend.

Have you just linked Jews to subversiveness?

That's kinda antisemitic.

This guy literally just blamed the 1965 Immigration Act which removed racial quotas on Israel.

I don't think calling him anti-semitic is particularly beyond the pale.