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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:52 am

Trump is an buffoon, who has no understanding of law or constitutional law. This goes back to when he wanted to dissolve the ninth circuit court of appeals, despite not having the power to do so.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:54 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
what kind of questions are these

all of them. they all entered mexico illegally and refused to apply for asylum offered to them at point of entry, and are thus illegal immigrants by definition

Yeah, that's wrong. It has been explained multiple times in this thread that most of the migrants are behaving legally.

But then they’d have to admit they’re just scared foreigners are coming
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:54 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Let's be honest here. This whole "build the wall, deport the illegals" spiel is just the one percent trying to convince the working poor to blame a subset of the working poor for the fact they're all poor instead of realising the reason they're all poor is due to vast income inequality and resource price inflation in combination with wage stagnation.

The existence of another poor person is not why you're poor. It's because the people who control everything refuse to increase your wages.


what ignorance



Care to explain on what the ignorance is or is this an NPC post?

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Postby Misthas » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:58 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:


what ignorance



Care to explain on what the ignorance is or is this an NPC post?

"I dont like other people's opions so I just call them ignorant."

God, his whole world is shape around Trump so much that even his NationStates name is Trumptonium. Can't expect someone like that to change their ideals or admit their fallacies. This would also apply to someone named Clintonium, by the way.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:59 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Yeah, that's wrong. It has been explained multiple times in this thread that most of the migrants are behaving legally.

But then they’d have to admit they’re just scared foreigners are coming

What?
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Postby Kowani » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:00 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:But then they’d have to admit they’re just scared foreigners are coming

What?

She?’s saying that those who hide behind “it’s the law!” have xenophobic motives as well.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:02 am

Kowani wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:What?

She?’s saying that those who hide behind “it’s the law!” have xenophobic motives as well.

*He
And how? How is saying "they are doing the right thing by coming to the US to claim asylum" xenophobic?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Trumptonium1 » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:02 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
what kind of questions are these

all of them. they all entered mexico illegally and refused to apply for asylum offered to them at point of entry, and are thus illegal immigrants by definition

Yeah, that's wrong. It has been explained multiple times in this thread that most of the migrants are behaving legally.


legally from whose perspective?

trump can easily stop them from reaching the us border and/or claiming asylum. it's not complicated and fully within his presidential remit.

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Care to explain on what the ignorance is or is this an NPC post?

"I dont like other people's opions so I just call them ignorant."

God, his whole world is shape around Trump so much that even his NationStates name is Trumptonium. Can't expect someone like that to change their ideals or admit their fallacies. This would also apply to someone named Clintonium, by the way.


there are no fallacies to admit
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:04 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Yeah, that's wrong. It has been explained multiple times in this thread that most of the migrants are behaving legally.


legally from whose perspective?

trump can easily stop them from reaching the us border and/or claiming asylum. it's not complicated and fully within his presidential remit.

Look back in the thread. US law states that migrants can come up to the border and claim asylum. If their claim upholds, they can come into America.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:04 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Yeah, that's wrong. It has been explained multiple times in this thread that most of the migrants are behaving legally.


legally from whose perspective?

trump can easily stop them from reaching the us border and/or claiming asylum. it's not complicated and fully within his presidential remit.
They’re still in Mexico. Kinda outside of his jurisdiction.
Misthas wrote:God, his whole world is shape around Trump so much that even his NationStates name is Trumptonium. Can't expect someone like that to change their ideals or admit their fallacies. This would also apply to someone named Clintonium, by the way.


there are no fallacies to admit
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:08 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Kowani wrote:She?’s saying that those who hide behind “it’s the law!” have xenophobic motives as well.

*He
And how? How is saying "they are doing the right thing by coming to the US to claim asylum" xenophobic?

First I’ll remind you intentionally misgendering is against the rules
Second, I’m saying that people are really just scared of a wave of immigrants coming but they have to pretend they’re illegally entering the country to justify their xenophobia
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:11 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:*He
And how? How is saying "they are doing the right thing by coming to the US to claim asylum" xenophobic?

First I’ll remind you intentionally misgendering is against the rules

I'm not, I was answering Kowani's question.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:11 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Kowani wrote:She?’s saying that those who hide behind “it’s the law!” have xenophobic motives as well.

*He
And how? How is saying "they are doing the right thing by coming to the US to claim asylum" xenophobic?

Sig says girl, and I haven’t seen a request for different pronouns, so she.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:12 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:First I’ll remind you intentionally misgendering is against the rules

I'm not, I was answering Kowani's question.

They were referring to me I believe
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Postby Kowani » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:13 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:I'm not, I was answering Kowani's question.

They were referring to me I believe

Bingo.
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Postby Marcianus » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:14 am

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Trump doesn't want to attack legal immigrants, just those who enter our country illegally. Also, the Washington Post isn't a credible source, by the way.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:15 am

Kowani wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:*He
And how? How is saying "they are doing the right thing by coming to the US to claim asylum" xenophobic?

Sig says girl, and I haven’t seen a request for different pronouns, so she.

Oh, I thought you were asking about Trumptonium
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:16 am

Marcianus wrote:"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Trump doesn't want to attack legal immigrants, just those who enter our country illegally. Also, the Washington Post isn't a credible source, by the way.

Did...you read any of the prior pages of discussion before posting here?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:16 am

Marcianus wrote:"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Trump doesn't want to attack legal immigrants, just those who enter our country illegally. Also, the Washington Post isn't a credible source, by the way.

If an illegal immigrant is not in the jurisdiction of the US why can we arrest them?
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Postby Marcianus » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:17 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Marcianus wrote:"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Trump doesn't want to attack legal immigrants, just those who enter our country illegally. Also, the Washington Post isn't a credible source, by the way.

If an illegal immigrant is not in the jurisdiction of the US why can we arrest them?


'Cause they're illegal?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:18 am

Marcianus wrote:Also, the Washington Post isn't a credible source, by the way.


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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:18 am

Marcianus wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:If an illegal immigrant is not in the jurisdiction of the US why can we arrest them?


'Cause they're illegal?

But they’re under the jurisdiction of the us then
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Postby Len Hyet » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:22 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Marcianus wrote:
'Cause they're illegal?

But they’re under the jurisdiction of the us then

Shh you'll break him.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:25 am

Marcianus wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:If an illegal immigrant is not in the jurisdiction of the US why can we arrest them?


'Cause they're illegal?


Can't arrest someone if they're not under your jurisdiction.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:00 am

Vassenor wrote:
Marcianus wrote:
'Cause they're illegal?


Can't arrest someone if they're not under your jurisdiction.

Which is why even if they entered Mexico illegally (hint most didn't) they have not done anything against US law. Kinda like when one state has laws against fireworks, but another state does not I can set fireworks off in the state where it is legal and the state where it is illegal can't do a damned thing about it. It is why California laws about guns and the such don't apply in Texas.
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